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On September 25 2012 22:34 iamperfection wrote: um this might be a stupid question but how does the named vt work? If I understand it correctly it's just a Vanilla Townie role with blue color and special name. No powers. | ||
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On September 26 2012 01:00 ShiaoPi wrote: obviously scum! Already piling up excuses for lack of activity!!!!! naah just kidding!  Damn, I'm already busted! | ||
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I am against a random lynch because in an instant majority game it might shortcut the discussion and therefore won't be helpfull. Also, there is the trust issue. Sinensis, why dont you want the Boxers to claim? Also, where is Bluelightz? 4am has long past. | ||
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On September 26 2012 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote: most boring start to a mafia game i've been a part of yet. at least we're not spending forever talking about lurkers tho who wants me to write walls of Don't be shy. If you're townie, there is nothing to fear. Just try not to clutter up the thread. We are off to a really slow start, something that can generate usefull discussion is always welcome. | ||
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On September 26 2012 11:01 austinmcc wrote: Random lynch still dumb, as always. I don't even like it as a discussion starter. Small mini, and we're going to have to work to keep things active and make sure everyone is involved. I don't think we need some kind of warning requirement before hammering, because everyone needs to be active and you shouldn't be waiting until you might or might not get hammered to speak up and make a defense or actually post. Everyone should be on notice from D1 that we're instant majority, just like you signed up for, and you need to actually participate. The bolded part is a good setup for scum to hammer a townie without warning. Are you scum, austin? | ||
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1) ShiaoPi (Taiwan) 2) Bluelightz (Indonesia) 3) iamperfection (US) 4) austinmcc (US) 5) strongandbig (US) 6) Ottoxlol (Unknown) 7) thrawn2112 (US) 8) Sinensis (US) 9) Phagga (Switzerland) Further discussing this topic only gives scum the possibility to appear active without contributing. On September 26 2012 22:11 austinmcc wrote: Actually, I think this could be a nice point to get some discussion. Boxer claims. Need to go read GSL 1 to see how they played out that game if the setup rolled Boxer(s). Sinensis can you pin down "later" to something more specific and give your thought process on why you'd want later claims? I agree with Sinensis that Boxers should not claim early. Boxers claiming only gives good targets to scum (as Sinensis explained), gives scum more knowledge about the setup and gives town the amount of blues with powers, which is all bad. Town should not rely on blues to scum hunt anyway, so not knowing if there are any blues to help is preferable. | ||
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On September 26 2012 22:43 austinmcc wrote: phagga, Are you actually worried about scum hammering townies without warning? Do you think it likely that townies would hammer someone without warning? Yes and Yes. I would not be surprised if a townie cluelessly hammers another townie without warning. Worse stuff has happened in the History of TL Mafia. And if a townie can do it, scum can too, they will just look for a good excuse. | ||
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On September 26 2012 22:52 ShiaoPi wrote: @phagga: I don't like your opening post. you complain about lack of activity in this game, while having been inactive as well. You also jump on another person who has done nothing until then. The post is pretty much devoid of any meaning, besides opposition to random lynches. Nothing that screams scum right now, but still worthy to take a note of. I wrote pregame I would be inactive the first 9 hours due to sleep, which is pretty much how long I was inactive. I frequently point out people who are not active, you can find this in any of my older games. It's a habit I have developed to make people aware that someone has been inactive for a longer time. I also like it as a reminder when scumhunting to see if the person has had several periods of long inactivity and what that could mean in the context of the game/thread. | ||
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On September 26 2012 06:07 thrawn2112 wrote: sup. how about that LoL? I fear we may all be out of a job soon On September 26 2012 06:38 thrawn2112 wrote: i would be down for rando lynch i will flip a coin. heads it's me, and tails it's you? On September 26 2012 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote: most boring start to a mafia game i've been a part of yet. at least we're not spending forever talking about lurkers tho who wants me to write walls of On September 26 2012 23:10 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah but I'd assume that goes without saying So much for talking about "useless shit". Also I was trying to shut the discussion about time zones down immediatly. Meanwhile all you have done (besides the quotes above) is talking about hammering someone, and you are just echoing others. How about you start contributing some? | ||
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On September 27 2012 00:49 iamperfection wrote: you were trying to shut down discussion by talking about it? To me it looked more like one of those posts that people do in order to look like their contributing. So what do you say to that? look now were actually talking about something!!! yay I specifically wrote: On September 26 2012 22:27 phagga wrote: I don't see how discussing time zones or activity times is gonna bring us anywhere. just check the timezone of everyone and note it down, I'm even gonna help with you that (because I already made it for myself): 1) ShiaoPi (Taiwan) 2) Bluelightz (Indonesia) 3) iamperfection (US) 4) austinmcc (US) 5) strongandbig (US) 6) Ottoxlol (Unknown) 7) thrawn2112 (US) 8) Sinensis (US) 9) Phagga (Switzerland) Further discussing this topic only gives scum the possibility to appear active without contributing. (Emphasis is mine). So yes, I was trying to shut that discussion down by giving him some raw information and making it clear that further discussing this topic will not be productive. And noone was talking about this topic afterwards, so I guess I made myself clear enough. | ||
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On September 27 2012 03:35 thrawn2112 wrote: Do you actually think those posts aren't contributions or are you just jumpy because I ragged on something you were posting about? I see you've made a nice spin-doctored and out of context version of my filter. Serious question btw Texting from mobile cause cable modem is broken. Yes they are out of context, but they don't improve when read in context. . I quoted them because you said I was posting useless stuff, when you had done exactly that yourself. I just wanted to show that you were contradicting yourself. But tell me, thrawn, who is a scummy person in this game, and why? Do you already see someone? | ||
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On September 28 2012 00:17 Bluelightz wrote: Before I sleep, I advocate not lynching thrawn because, he's very active, and very open with his suspicions (SnB), and responsive to questions. I don't think mafia would be like this. Why would Mafia not do that? According to you, that makes them look townie, which is what they try to achieve. | ||
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On September 27 2012 23:29 iamperfection wrote: Actually you know what i don't think town members try to make links between players on day one like you blatantly did. ## Vote Thrawn You want that vote to count? Than you better write his name right. @thrawn, the problem with your analysis of a possible connection of sinensis and s&b is that you are making a lot of assumptions. It's not wrong to do that, but it's just quite a stretch because we do not have that much info available yet. @austinmc, you have only been talking setup so far. Any thoughts on iamps vote on thrawn? Any thoughts on other players? @Ottoxlol, you just sound afraid to get lynched, which should not really be a problem when you're town. This post stands out: On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote: My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him. First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute: SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing. When I compare this with your play in LVII where you furiously defended your idea although several people started to calling a vig on you, then you're behaviour this game seems off. | ||
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On September 28 2012 00:29 Bluelightz wrote: If you look at it from a mafia perspective I don't think mafia would be that open in giving information out out to town, as well as, if you say it that way, wouldn't all the things you are doing is trying to achieve mafia's objective? Of course Mafia tries to achieve their objective, I just find it dangerous to say that mafia would not do something because only townies do something/take that risk. If an action means you can look more townier, than it might be a good idea to risk it as scum, to get some towncred. | ||
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On September 28 2012 00:15 Ottoxlol wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2012 23:56 Bluelightz wrote: Are you just dodging my question? Oh, ##Vote: Ottoxlol. Proper defense please. Did you answer to that post? No. Who is dodging what then? I don't feel like there have been anything to take a stance on, random lynch was stupid, there was talk about Boxers claiming that was stupid too. I don't think that the way is to pick someone at random (me) then start voting because I did not hunt scum/ post a lot, meanwhile SnB, Bluelight, iamperfection, SInensis, phagga or austin posted similar to me in quality and quantity. I don't see why is it ok to vote for someone because he's just asking questions and has nothing new to add in the beginning but if it is so please I ask it again, SnB and Bluelight why would you vote me over the others? Besides Ottoxlol showing fear again of getting lynched, he tries something very untowny: To blend in. As a townie, you generally have 2 priorities: - Hunt scum - Establish your own innocence (which makes scum hunting for town easier as they can concentrate more on the not-so-townie players). However, instead of taking Bluelightz' vote on him as a wake up call to follow either of those two paths, Ottoxlol instead tries to point out that others are the same as him. That's just plain wrong. This does not help town at all and gives Ottoxlol the possibility to hide behind other players, which is a scummy thing to do. #Vote Ottoxlol | ||
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