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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 28 2012 04:31 GMT
#17
ALRIGHT, I'LL DO IT.

/in
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 30 2012 04:39 GMT
#53
HERE WEE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#85
On August 31 2012 11:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:28 MrZentor wrote:
Light. <3


You Kira Sympathizer YOUUUUUU! Scum obv.

##Vote MrZentor


What a joke!!!

##vote: Hapahauli

Also, I'm always, always, ALWAYS down for a lurker lynch. I don't think it's a bad idea at all especially considering this setup. It's going to be rapid fire 24 hour periods and people will probably find it much easier to just excuse their inactivity as "oh well I was busy"

The only exception to this being the people who said they would be busy pregame so I'll give them a wash maybe (maybe) on those days.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#87
On August 31 2012 11:34 MrZentor wrote:
##Vote: MrZentor
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not actually allowed to vote for myself, which is why it isn't bold, but just pretend like I did.


Yeah, obv scum.


>.>
<.<

I don't know how to take this. YOU PULLIN' A VE BRO?!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 02:38 GMT
#89
On August 31 2012 11:36 Hapahauli wrote:
But in all seriousness, good to have a couple of folks around.

I'd like to hear some thoughts on a policy I'm thinking of...

Since we're operating on 24 hour days, there's going to be a lot of chaos on trying to get a read. On Day 1, it will be really easy for us to tunnel and kill a non-articulate townie without that extra 24 hours to take a step back and breathe.

I propose that after 12-14 hours, we each take a step back from our pressures/cases (barring a major scumslip from someone) and begin to focus on those who haven't been involved in the game. It'll be very easy for mafia to hide under the chaos of 24 hour days otherwise. Thoughts?


Removed your bold to add my own. Agree 100%. I don't think any lurking in this game should get a pass, even if someone breaks their hand playing volleyball.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 02:38 GMT
#90
EBWOP: With the exception of pre-game stated lurk time >.>
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 02:44 GMT
#93
On August 31 2012 11:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:32 Risen wrote:
...

The only exception to this being the people who said they would be busy pregame so I'll give them a wash maybe (maybe) on those days.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't see anyone make any pre-game excuses... so thankfully this isn't a concern. Also, with the OP explicity mentioning people being availible and active over the next 8 days, there's NO excuse for ANYONE to lurk. Lurking, in this setup especially, is anti-town


I've never played with you, but you're stealing all my lines >.>

I swear Mattchew or someone else made a pregame excuse.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 02:44 GMT
#94
On August 30 2012 01:31 Mattchew wrote:
if this game starts sunday or later I can play, any earlier and I will be super inactive from friday - sunday only on my phone without much time


Yup, see?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 02:45 GMT
#95
Going to go watch white collar and covert affairs :D I'll be back in a few hours.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 14:46 GMT
#171
And I'm awake. Classes from 9:10-11:10 and then I'll be at my comp the rest of the day
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 18:50 GMT
#230
Home from class. Reading everything now.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 19:55 GMT
#245
Okay I read through the thread and will be spoilering my thoughts as they came below. I'm going to make a case from them and vote, though I haven't decided who that case is going to be on. I'm leaning towards Shady but he just voted for a lurker. We'll see. Case targets (thus FoS) are mamba/shady/mt/hapa

I really don't like how hapa bit sab's hook and has managed to still think it's food.

+ Show Spoiler +

Hopeless - started off shaky to me, I don't like his "tell me if I'm lurking"


blackmamba - what a weird question to ask in thread since it's posted in the OP (gonzaw smurf?). mamba comes back with a strong defense of lynch all liars while discrediting lynch all lurkers, something I disagree with, but it is placing himself out there. I disagree b/c this early in a game that requires activity like this one does, you can't have liars this early. Lynch all liars is 99% foolproof, but I would argue that the next best thing when there are no lies is to lynch lurkers. In my experience lurkers tend to be mafia more often than town (I don't know if I'm too biased here, though, as I tend to get really, really mad at people who sign up for these games and then don't contribute.)

shady sands - either can't read or purposefully misunderstands mamba's question, immediately after this calls Hopeless a town player and places FoS on Hapahauli. Comes out in defense of lynching lurkers over liars b/c of one guy..........

giant shady sands mamba circle jerk in thread. shady also apparently can't keep track of how long the game has been up.

following circle jerk mamba comes out and votes with shady's FoS. What?

strongandbig just claimed miller. He's pretty much put himself up as a lynch candidate as the game becomes later and later, I don't know if a scum would do this, it's WIFOMy as all hell. However, we can check his claim that some will return green and some will return red easily.

Palmar is awfully quiet.

mamba comes in and supports sab's miller claim. Mamba seems to know a lot about people.

marvel is trolling. I'm not surprised. ghost joins the trolling. sab sheds light on the matter, apparently MrZ is as bad as grush.

solar jumps in and declares himself to be anti-troll. I support this message. agree with ghost, I'll have to read up on solar.

ghost says it has been a while since I played, neglects my godmode performance in my last two games (ItsMarvelBabyyy hydra with marvellosity in Age of Empires and I can't remember the one before that but I'm pretty sure it involved Mattchew raging post-game like I knew he would b/c he got lynched by a troll vote from me and Dropbear giving up as the last mafia guy vs all of us)

Hapa is echoing what I'm feeling right now. I'm going to be voting mamba unless something drastic happens in thread.

ghost defends mamba because... ???

omg there's still 5 pages to go...

HiroPro FoS on hopeless. Can't blame him.

sab two to one odds on hopeless being town. magic8ball.org disagrees

HiroPro asks ghost about me

marvel questions ghost's reasoning b/c apparently DrH is a good player who wouldn't make a bad case

ghost gives me some backup, but neglects the warm and fuzzy player I have become (unless you count me blowing up after being prodded by idiots. I don't.)

Confirming the number of times marvel told me to shut up is greater than the number of posts we had in the age of kings thread

ghost engages WIFOM-mode

HiroPro knows I'm a Lakers fan or is down with the pop culture references. I don't know what kenpachi rule is, though.

hopeless FoS on mamba, while simultaneously calling out hapa for feeling guilty. Apparently MrZ is really, REALLY bad.

shady points out that node and mt are afk and have been for longer than would be expected in a game like this.

holy cow a wild mt appears. Wait he posted earlier asking about MrZ. Posts when called out. Lurker status.

ghost says he can't find scum motivation for mamba's post. Marvel asks why ghost has him marked as scum.

hapa calls out shady as being... shady.

mt points out that ghost's defense of mamba instead of letting mamba speak for himself is odd. I'm drawing the conclusion that he is drawing a connection between ghost/mamba. Wait, nevermind, he's going to vote MrZ b/c lurker. The reasoning he's using in his vote could be used against him, though. My only concern with ghost is that he seems to "know" that mamba is town. No one knows anything in mafia games except scum. I get another shoutout from mt for not going HAM like I usually do. In my defense, I haven't seen outrageously stupid play from anyone, and as I said earlier I'm the new improved version of Risen.

Wow... my just posted a list that has two people I hate playing with and includes MrZ and kenpachi, two people I haven't played with but can assume also lurk like assholes.

Hapa calls out mt for the weird vote, makes a mistake, edits by way of post.

Made plenty of sense to me. Why doesn't it make sense to you Shady? I think the voting portion is ODD considering mt had been lurking up to that point (in my opinion), but I can understand his reasoning. Why can't you?

Hapa calls out mt for wanting other's opinions instead of going with his own. It's safe play meant not to upset anybody, which I don't think necessarily means town or scum.

I know sab didn't just suggest an RNG lynch. He did. He also says something about how "MrZ could change! But I'd totally be down to lynch him if he doesn't." <-- not an actual quote

Suddenly a Palmar claiming town ghost! Funny connection between these two. Both seem to "know" things when they really shouldn't know anything at all.

Yay mkfuba asks the question I was going to have to ask. Wait apparently from reading this quote MrZ asked it earlier? Wait that quote says July 6... OH! It's answering the question. Yeah search function, you go dude.

Hapa comes out with the hard hitting questions. I'm interested in sab's response, but I almost feel like sab asked for an RNG lynch only to see who would hop on it or attack it (I feel safe pointing this out since it has already managed to ensnare one person potentially looking for an easy case)

sab disagrees with policy lynches.

Hapa still biting what I am now convinced is meant to be a hook.

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Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 19:58 GMT
#247
EBWOP: I think it goes without saying that MrZ and Node both need to actually do something. Like right now. I'm building a case on someone who has been posting. But that doesn't mean I'm going to blind myself to people who think that they can avoid a vote if they don't give up stuff to make a case on. Posting is pro-town. It lets people make cases on you and then you can defend yourself if you're really town. Guess what happens when you lurk and don't post shit? You can't defend yourself and if you're town you're just shooting yourself in the foot (in my opinion, lurking as town is playing against the win condition)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:01 GMT
#249
On September 01 2012 04:48 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 04:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Alright, enough of this bullshit.

## Vote Node

Until he posts. I'm also amenable to a wagon on Zentor.

As for Momen, I want to his response. As for BlackMamba, I haven't had a chance to read through his filter yet. Will check thread again 5 hours from now.


Shady, Node isn't lurking, he's not playing. We can discuss lynching him if and when he shows up.


This makes sense to me kind of. Node knew what this game was when he signed up for it. Being inactive this long seems more and more lurkerish as the game gets closer to lynch imo. How am I supposed to get anything on the guy if he just comes in right before deadline with some crazy posting?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:03 GMT
#251
My case is going to be on shady. Palmar where are you? I thought you were supposed to be the one who comes into games and gets discussion rolling. That's what people told me I was emulating during SSB Mafia when I tried to do the same thing.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:48 GMT
#268
Shady Sands: The Case of Being Really Bad or Being Bad

I'm going to give Shady the benefit of the doubt here and say that he's just Bad.

To start off with, I can't tell whether he just didn't read the statement properly, or whether he was trying to misrepresent what mamba was saying (in the case of one, he's really bad, in the case of two, he's just bad. See where I'm going with this? This isn't American Politics. People are going to read what you're saying and "lying" about what someone means is going to get caught by someone (me!).

Now Hopeless is a town player in Shady's eyes and Hapa gets the good ole FoS for calling Hopeless out. Why is calling someone out for saying something stupid grounds for an FoS? Hopeless could CLAIM that what he did was simply meant to generate discussion but I tend to only believe such claims from people I've seen do it before. Regardless, Hopeless didn't claim that, and you pretty much FoS'd someone for calling out someone who asked to be told when he was lurking. It's too WIFOM to discuss what Hopeless was trying to do here, but it isn't WIFOM to say that calling Hopeless out for doing something stupid isn't something worthy of an FoS. Also, how do you justify your feelings that Hopeless is towny from what he's written? You use a WIFOMy argument. Sure, that might be all you have, and just saying that is fine. However, you used that to back up your suspicions of another player, which is bad.

Next up we have your "defense" of lynching lurkers over liars. This is really bad. Defense is in quotes because I don't think you ever really come out and say we should lynch lurkers over liars, but the implication sure is there. And how do you support your position? One guy. But that one time BM was town! I don't care. You lynch whoever is the most scummy player, and in 99% of cases the liar is that scummy player. That's really wishy washy. No longer really bad, you're bad scum trying to appear active in my mind now. See a trend here?

What's this mamba/shady back and forth really about? I'm not sure anything of substance came from this. I'm not going to hold this against you, though, because if anyone ever wants to look through my filters in just about any game I'm not hydra'd with marvel on you're in for a rough time. One thing that bugged me about you here is that you already start calling lurkers out. How long has the game really been going for? Another thing that bugs me here is Mamba's voting with your earlier FoS on Hapa. This is more an indictment against Mamba than you, though. Mamba being one of my FoS's doesn't help you at all, and neither does your guys' giant discussion earlier.

Now that it is much later in the game you point out that node and mamba are not posting like they should be. Fair enough, and I can get behind that.

Now then. Another really bad vs bad point. How do you not understand what Mementoss is saying? You can DISAGREE with what he's saying, but to say it makes no sense? Add this to your earlier misrepresentation of mamba and you see where I start to question the line between really bad town, and bad scum. I think you're scum trying to appear active in the thread so you try and point things out that could be suspicious in other players. Any "cases" you make aren't really that fulfilling and then you vote Node.

Why Node over MrZ? Surely the "active lurker" is more suspicious than the guy who might not even be playing the game/is getting modkilled. Right?

It all adds up to really bad townie vs bad scum. I think you're just bad scum.

##unvote
##vote: Shady Sands
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:51 GMT
#270
On September 01 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours.


Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 20:57 GMT
#273
DOES NO ONE READ THE SHIT I POST
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 23:02 GMT
#317
On September 01 2012 06:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 05:51 Risen wrote:
On September 01 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ MrZentor - can I request that you vote BlackMamba24? I doubt you'll get many followers with your Palmar vote, and as it stands, we want to start narrowing down our focus over the next few hours.


Why do you say this? People could easily be persuaded into voting for Palmar. I think the only thing protecting Palmar at this point is his "veteran" status. What's the difference between Palmar and MrZ right now except that MrZ actually dug and found "something"?


I'm trying to push a lynch on my top scumread. I really don't know what to make of Palmar, but I find BMB scummy and therefore I'll rally support on him.


That makes your statement quite a bit less sinister... I thought you were just saying no one would vote Palmar.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2012 23:08 GMT
#326
On September 01 2012 07:52 Shady Sands wrote:
Is everyone just ignoring my fucking case on ghost?


Welcome to my world. I read it. I have to think about this. I wish Palmar was a viable target.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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