Having learned from hapa, I think mafia tend to be pretty lurky in newbie games.

Therefore, d1 lurker lynch is a great policy. However, this should not be a reason to not be scum hunting: scum hunting is vital, and forcing reads early is how town can catch mafia later in the game.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 23 2012 23:55 GMT

#96

Also, lynching a controversial, but active player d1 tends to be a mislynch.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 23 2012 23:56 GMT

#97

Total disclosure a, also in normal mafia xxx.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 00:03 GMT

#99

Shady this is like the third game I've played with you in the last few days. If you don't know my lurker policy you must be thick as a brick.

Policy: LYNCH LURKERS. Hopefully there are no lurkers and we can vote scumreads.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 00:20 GMT

#103

Right now my eyes are on Kush and WeeTee. Yes it is their first games, but thats no excuse to just sheep onto others ideas. Get out there! Don't use your newbiness as an excuse!

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 00:25 GMT

#104

Wait has everyone posted already?

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 00:39 GMT

#111

Also the lurker discussion can be thrown out the window because it looks like we have no lurkers

Kush lets see you go out on a limb!
Townie nubs have nothing to fear, Scummy nubs have to be veeeeeeeery careful what they say.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 00:58 GMT

#118

Lets leave previous games in the past.

For what its worth I think Shady is Town, he's doing a good impression of his town meta.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 01:11 GMT

#122

New players what do you think of my claim on shady?

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 01:29 GMT

#125

WeeTee explain your read? Why is Shady a null read to you?

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 02:31 GMT

#132

@Alsn-- There is no reason you should allow me to be complacent. My read is super early and can always change, but Shady is looking like his agressive town meta right now. Of course some more posting will be important for confirmation.

I'm trying to get some good discussion started.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 02:49 GMT

#136

On August 24 2012 11:45 kushm4sta wrote:

Show nested quote +

Wow you sounded really smart about lvdr he seems fishy how he constantly shifts the focus to those he knows aren't mafia. And he does it in a very non constructive way. However you suspect me for some reason which is just wrong.
If I were mafia I would be super nice and would not be aggressive or defensive in any way actually. It's because im town that I'm not afraid to act like this because I have nothing to hide. Basically I think you are mistaking "bad play" for guilt. Lvdr is 85 percent mafia in my mind though. We should lynch him.

Woah boy. Activity is good for the town. The more stances mafia are forced to take the harder it is for them to hide later on in the game.

You may jsut be inexperienced, but my play so far has been extremely pro town in order to get people into the discussion.

To directly address your post, I'm shifting focus to get everyone posting. I don't know anyone who is mafia yet. I invite you to challenge my town read on Shady.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 03:19 GMT

#149

Spaghetticus please repost your case with proper quote formatting. It will make reading it much more straight forward.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 03:30 GMT

#150

@mkfuba Your posting so far has been policy and fluff-city (fluffcity bitch fluff fluff city bitch)

This post in particular has caught my attention.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361579&currentpage=8#141

You pitter patter around, but say nothing. Get out there and scumhunt!!

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 03:54 GMT

#153

Shady has been accused of intentionally misinterpreting things before, but it has happened a lot when he is town. However, def is a point worth paying attention to.

Kush is my #1 scum read right now based on his 85% sure post. There is no real evidence and so it only spreads suspicion without anything to back it up. Please make better reads and use evidence.

##FOS: MKFUBA
##FOS:Kushm4sta

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 19:21 GMT

#215

Everyone has to sleep you know. I can't patrol the thread 24/7.

That being said, I have some reads to provide:

@Kush I think the JK claim sounds very honest to me and it fits perfectly with the bad-townie' vibe.

So everyone wants to lynch me because I didn't share my thoughts about if lurkers are really bad or just kind of bad?

I don't like the leadership role you took in the beginning and I think it reeks of mafia.

Wow guys everyone wants to kill me because I'm annoying or something and everyone hates me?? Reading this thread makes me want to cry. Honestly I will try harder but if you kill me let me just say that would be a huge mistake beacuse I am no ordinary townsperson. I am the jailkeeper so yeah you really shouldn't kill me.

These are only a few selections from kush's filter. Overall it reads as someone who hasn't played this style of mafia before. The suspicion of leadership is understandable, but poor play. The JK claim falls in to the same category: understandable based on the clear desperation in kush's posting, but fundamentally the bad play of a newbie that is struggling. Therefore:
1. I don't think Kush should be a D1 lynch target.
2. Kush is not a confirmed townie and should still be 'watched'.

@shady My initial 'town call' on shady was mostly in order to stimulate discussion. Yes, he did match his meta for the most part, but it was extremely early to decide that someone was already town. At this point I am pretty suspicious that he decided kush's JK claim is scummy enough to insta-vote him. Seems like textbook play from a mafia jumping on the mistakes of a newbie.

##FOS Shady

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 19:41 GMT

#219

@shady My initial 'town call' on shady was mostly in order to stimulate discussion. Yes, he did match his meta for the most part, but it was extremely early to decide that someone was already town. At this point I am pretty suspicious that he decided kush's JK claim is scummy enough to insta-vote him. Seems like textbook play from a mafia jumping on the mistakes of a newbie.

please read.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 19:42 GMT

#220

Remember FOS is a tool in order to stimulate discussion. My earlier FOS were largely manufactured because of lack of evidence. Right now our focus needs to be widespread so that we dont have a situation where, for example kush gets tunneled hard and we have no evidence on anyone else.

Lvdr

United States418 Posts

August 24 2012 19:51 GMT

#224

@mkfuba I have made 3 FOS so far. 2 for clearly stated reasons on you and kush. 1 for the case that I just made on shady. I am not mindlessly splurging them around, rather I am using them intentionally and with my reasoning up front.