• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:21
CET 22:21
KST 06:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 286HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
StarCraft player reflex TE scores [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? 2024 BoxeR's birthday message Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1499 users

[M] (2) ESV Abode

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
Namrufus
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States396 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 05:28:00
July 16 2012 05:27 GMT
#1
[image loading]

ESV.TV The home of the Korean Weekly!


ESV Abode


Published on NA, KR, EU, and SEA
By Namrufus
v1.1

[image loading]


This Protoss settlement is built on the site of a galactic psi energy focal point.

+ Show Spoiler [Map Analyzer summary] +

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [old versions] +

1.0 (motm may)
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [beauty shots (slightly outdated)] +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


Stats
dimensions = 144x122
main2main rush distance(analyzer) = 164
nat2nat rush distance(analyzer) = 154

12 total bases:
---8m 2g bases: 8
---6m 1hyg bases: 4

1 watchtower
2 rocks

tileset = pure bel'shir
doodad count = 1311

Description

I made this as a fairly 'standard' medium sized 2 spawn map. The map is intended to be macro-oriented, with a safer third, but hopefully with a number of interesting ways to harass or attack, including a small path against the main that leads an enemy expansion that is not seen by the central watchtower. It was chosen as a top 5 map in MOTM May and is now an ESV Map.

please post any feedback, comments and suggestions you might have .
This is it... the alpaca lips.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
July 16 2012 05:32 GMT
#2
This is very cool. Nice job with the textures, clearly showing which height levels are which. Maybe a touch too much sand, but even that is really well done.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
July 16 2012 05:43 GMT
#3
what were the comments regarding this in motm? i wonder how you feel this would play out differently from day break.
starleague forever
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 06:26:49
July 16 2012 06:24 GMT
#4
That pillar in front of the 6th base makes it too choky for a lategame area, imo, especially since the other entrance from the long cliffside path is already narrow.

On July 16 2012 14:43 a176 wrote:
what were the comments regarding this in motm? i wonder how you feel this would play out differently from day break.

The third base is much easier (too easy for a map this size?) and the forward base is far less reward with much more vulnerability. Much easier to move between areas of the map, too.

If the pathing is like the first version, it's kind of cool that it doesn't go anywhere near the tower but the tower covers it (which solves the blind army bypass problem nicely), but you can't just camp an army on the tower without risking getting runby'd anyway. But if they push for tower you'll need troops there. So controlling the center is powerful but there is ample opportunity for an aggressor to outmaneuver a camper. Also I still love those long paths below the main. Congrats on being showcased with ESV. I hope this map makes some cool games to watch!

I feel like it would benefit from a redesign of the 5th and 6th bases. More negative space in that corner separating the pathways... that part of the map feels too connected so that careful planning of positions doesn't matter very much.

Like this maybe? Or something.

[image loading]
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
July 16 2012 08:36 GMT
#5
Some nice changes from the older version. This map does not suck
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
July 16 2012 08:57 GMT
#6
Cute map. I think you should open the center highground to the sides. An army placed on top of it seems too immobile to me. Aesthetics are well done, but very conservative.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
July 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#7
Interesting map, Holy sight blockers lol
John 15:13
Namrufus
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States396 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 05:24:50
July 28 2012 05:19 GMT
#8
sorry for late reply

@Wnio, Ragoo, PiPoGevy

Thanks.

@a176

The MOTM top 5 description is here (2nd entry): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341446, barrin also commented on the map here in the MOTM submissions thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335916&currentpage=9#172

Though the initial expansion pattern is similar to daybreak's (main,nat,third on a path that is behind a central 6m1hyg base) The third is (as etp says) a lot easier to take. Past that point, the other expos and the structure of the center of the map are dissimilar to daybreak.

@EatThePath

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a bit afraid the 3rd is too safe myself. I might do something similar to the map in the future, depending on how it plays out.

@Aunvilgod

The center area is fairly far 'out of the way' in order to hopefully make that area useful to control but not incredibly powerful for holding the entire middle. I think adding ramps to the side would make the area less interesting.
As for aesthetics, the bel'shir tileset is awesome idk what you're saying :p
This is it... the alpaca lips.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10290 Posts
July 28 2012 08:47 GMT
#9
*Cue FlaShFTW careening into map thread*
*Looks*
*Thirds are fine*
*Leaves sadly*
Not a bad map. However, those top right and bottom left are really wako areas. Really chokey and weird.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
July 29 2012 11:52 GMT
#10
Actually saw this the first time last night in the Taeja vs Squirtle finals, never opened it up ingame before. Have to confirm that this is indeed a very nice map ! Hope it can get somewhere, somehow
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
July 29 2012 19:40 GMT
#11
On July 28 2012 17:47 FlaShFTW wrote:
*Cue FlaShFTW careening into map thread*
*Looks*
*Thirds are fine*
*Leaves sadly*
Not a bad map. However, those top right and bottom left are really wako areas. Really chokey and weird.

lol.


On July 29 2012 20:52 Ragoo wrote:
Actually saw this the first time last night in the Taeja vs Squirtle finals, never opened it up ingame before. Have to confirm that this is indeed a very nice map ! Hope it can get somewhere, somehow

omg... checking for vods as soon as tsl is over
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
20:50
Best Games
Maru vs Solar
Reynor vs TriGGeR
herO vs Solar
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs TBD
PiGStarcraft188
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 216
PiGStarcraft188
UpATreeSC 155
ForJumy 56
Nathanias 25
EmSc Tv 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 226
Hyuk 54
NaDa 13
IntoTheRainbow 11
ivOry 4
League of Legends
C9.Mang0111
Counter-Strike
fl0m1874
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King83
Other Games
FrodaN4819
summit1g4127
Grubby3816
Beastyqt1087
RotterdaM457
shahzam300
mouzStarbuck266
KnowMe243
ToD233
Liquid`Hasu204
ArmadaUGS136
Harstem115
Trikslyr58
ZombieGrub21
JuggernautJason8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1493
BasetradeTV128
StarCraft 2
angryscii 36
EmSc Tv 24
EmSc2Tv 24
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 38
• Hupsaiya 30
• musti20045 19
• davetesta19
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 28
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• imaqtpie2946
• TFBlade1592
• Shiphtur512
• Stunt481
• Scarra99
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 39m
RongYI Cup
13h 39m
herO vs Maru
Replay Cast
1d 2h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-05
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.