Newbie Mini Mafia XX

On July 05 2012 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
YOYO GUYS. I AM Vanilla Townie

On a more serious note, we want this ship rollin' as fast as possible. Discussing policy is not scumhunting but it does at least help us get the discussion going. First off, something we want to avoid as town is Vanillas claiming blue roles. In both my last game and Newbie Mini Mafia XVIII there were Vanillas who claimed blue roles(DTs). Both times town ended in an bad spot (although not as bad as it could've been due to luck). But this should still be avoided at all costs as it can cause massive damage to town. Why? Well let's say a vanilla townie claims DT, and then the real DT claims because the vanilla is lying. As it doesn't make sense for vanillas to claim blue roles, we must assume that one of theese players is scum and the other one is the real DT.Two following scenarios can occur here
1). The townie gets lynched. which means that the other person is probebly the real DT, this must however not be true.
2). The DT gets lynched, which means that the vanilla townie will 100% get lynched the next day.
While 2 is far worse than 1 they are still both very bad for town. There really isn't a situation you want to fakeclaim as a townie. If you don't agree with this please let me know. If noone disagrees I will assume that no townie is ever fake claiming a blue role. Obviously there are situations where you might want to claim as blue.

I will also copy a part of my first post from my last game(where I was DT) since I am lazy.

Regarding lynches: I really really dislike nolynching for three reasons.
1. because the information that we are able to get out of it is very limited. Yes, we avoid a potential misslynch but on the other hand scum will score a more or less a free-kill during night. Essentially, we are back on D1 but this time we are in a 6-2 instead of a 7-2.
2. If we agree to nolynch then what is there to discuss? It's like asking for people to lurk even more.
3. With no vigilante in the game the only way we can win is to lynch scum. Kinda obvious but still.
We require 5+ votes in order to get a lynch done. With that in mind I hope that people are willing to vote for someone who isn't their top 1 scum. Obviously, if you REALLY don't think there is any chance that the person that is about to be lynched can be scum, then sure, don't vote him. But if it seems like your target hardly gets any votes and your second highest scumread is at 4 votes with 30 minutes untill deadline, then I think you should swap your vote onto him.

Lurkers!: There are two types of lurkers. The ones who doesn't post anything and the sneaky ones, who posts ALOT but nothing of value. The first category could either be bad town play or scum play. But the second category is almost exclusivly scum play. If you are a townie, speak your mind, don't make a super duper long post when you could've said it on just a few lines. Keep it simple. With that being said, post!

On July 05 2012 09:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm getting suspicious of Jingle.


1st post. Instead of commenting on my post he starts to ridicule it, effectivly killing discussion about it. Instead he is the first one to start shit up the thread with sex-toy w/e. Also, instead of posting his own reads he says I'd feel silly making a similar one which doesn't make any sense at all. I'd much rather have a post about your thought's on scum hunting rather than sex toys. At least when we are playing mafia...

The next couple of posts he is effectivly fills half the thread with his talk about Evul being a perv and what not.

If you would write this as a first time player I could be somewhat cool with it. But you are not. We want to lynch scum, not lurkers. And we absolutly don't want to roll the dice.

And I really don't see how you are very suspicious about the vote. There were ~50 hours untill deadline when he threw the vote. How is this even close to start a bandwagon? Like wtf?

But at this point you only had one minor post of substance as well.


I don't get this post. I may be missunderstanding this but if there is no substance to the case then why would that even be considered a case? And why on earth would someone ever get lynched by such a ''case''

Once again, there is no threat of a bandwagon at all. Why do you keep saying that?

What I find maybe most intresting is how you start the game by shitting up the thread and literally don't post a single usefull thing. When the first vote get thrown tho, You go ''WTF DUDE, VOTING IZ NOT COOL''. No, I agree that the reasoning behind the vote to begin with was verrrry vauge but I don't really see why you get so upset about it ESPICIALLY since it's not even on you.

##Vote JingleHell

On July 05 2012 13:46 Hapahauli wrote:


You've just posted a list of four names while saying nothing of value yourself. Rather scummy behavior.

On July 05 2012 16:37 Lazermonkey wrote:

No matter how bad a first post is, it is a discussion starter, no? And I don't even agree with it being bad because of reasons I've already staten at this point. And if my post is to get town to start talking about useless things, what is Jingle's post then? you can't possibly think that discussing policy or w/e is WORSE than discussing sex toys in a scum hunting perspective. And yes, I am using the fact that he and Evul to shit up the thread somewhat as a reason for my suspicion. Not only is he not scum hunting/discussing the game, he is also posting filler which makes it harder to read the thread.

Okay, this makes sense and I agree.

First off, I strongly disagree with that the part you are refering to is based upon OMGUS. Instead of actually quoting what in the post you dislike you simply say it sucks... Way to go! Also you are spamming your own OMGUS at me, Still you are using my so called ''OMGUS'' against Jingle as an argument against me. Nice contradiction here.

Also what is your stance on Jingle? You've been wish-washy like hell on that...




All in the same post -.-

On July 05 2012 23:08 JingleHell wrote:
I do wish we could stop looking at Lazer's first post as "contradictory". Actually, for that matter, I wish we would leave alone all the initial burst of posting, the entire purpose is to get people talking, which was accomplished. Frankly, I don't think Lazer's first post felt scummy, because while it was only very basic, it was an effort to do the same thing I accomplished by bringing up sex toys. I've just discovered that something meaningless works better.

Instead of cluttering things up, I'll just say that Bass and Lazer's analysis on TMG sounds good, and I'll be interested in seeing what he has to say.