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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 26 2012 19:20 GMT
#26
I'm /in. When is this starting?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#72
woohoo!

Stoked for this to start. Also don't mind me if I say something that is dumber than two rocks making love, I'm in two games at once and they are my first and second games so I make just fuck up royally and post here when I intend to post there. I hope you will forgive me if I am dumb.

I look forward to playing with all of you. Goodluck.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 13:10 GMT
#79
haha my evil scummy plan has succeeded you are all talking about my play and not about scum hunting. Cower before me brief mortals.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 13:29 GMT
#81
And an offer I can't refuse? Does it involve a human sized hamster ball and a life of captivity?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 23:13 GMT
#152
On June 29 2012 07:38 NrGmonk wrote:
Good thing monk isn't a role.


man, if it was all the scum would be banned already.

Hey guys sorry I wasn't here when the game started, I'm not a late riser. I just got off work.

I think it is a great idea to scum-hunt, we should do it with gusto and aplomb however a lurker lynch is always doable since this is turn one and we have the least knowledge that we will have all game since our blues haven't done anything yet and scum hasn't even tried to make a kill. Scum can still hide in the shadows so, if we don't have any better leads a shot into the shadows will give us a chance at least.

I'll be here for the next hour or so and hopefully we can start some real discussion.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 23:28 GMT
#154
On June 29 2012 08:16 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 08:12 Intact wrote:
I know it's a bit early to try and make a read, however my short list of possible scum is topped by Myles atm. Primarily because it seems like he wants to promote inactivity. It's a loose read but someone had to get this started.

I guess you can call trying to be a little more selective than randomly picking people to start accusing is promoting inactivity, but I was trying to be a little more prudent. The game started 2 hours ago so it seems a bit early to start accusing people.


I think Myles is right here, we need to think this through. I'm certainly not opposed to a lurker lynch but if we are going to start targeting a single player it should be for a good reason.

Intact, if you think Myles is scummy you should keep a close eye on him and see how he acts see what he does and build a case.

We as townies need to work together though we have the deductive power of nine smart (I hope) people on our side, we should try to use that power.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 28 2012 23:47 GMT
#157
On June 29 2012 08:38 Anacletus wrote:
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On June 29 2012 08:28 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 08:16 Myles wrote:
On June 29 2012 08:12 Intact wrote:
I know it's a bit early to try and make a read, however my short list of possible scum is topped by Myles atm. Primarily because it seems like he wants to promote inactivity. It's a loose read but someone had to get this started.

I guess you can call trying to be a little more selective than randomly picking people to start accusing is promoting inactivity, but I was trying to be a little more prudent. The game started 2 hours ago so it seems a bit early to start accusing people.


I think Myles is right here, we need to think this through. I'm certainly not opposed to a lurker lynch but if we are going to start targeting a single player it should be for a good reason.

Intact, if you think Myles is scummy you should keep a close eye on him and see how he acts see what he does and build a case.

We as townies need to work together though we have the deductive power of nine smart (I hope) people on our side, we should try to use that power.


I have 3 pages of notes already. And I wrote all of those notes in red ink. Only people who are guilty have note pages written about them in red ink. He must be scum!


Oh, well in that case lets lynch him!+ Show Spoiler +
just kidding


What do your notes say (assuming you weren't joking about them) what are your reads? Your thoughts and ideas. I know only a few of us are posting right now but that makes it easier, just assume that there still could be a scum among the posters and start hunting. No one needs to succeed at scum hunting yet, it is after all turn one, but we should start looking for any fishy behaviours. I'm looking but not finding anything yet, everyone seems to be pretty normally playing out day one. I'm curious about how fast Intact jumped on Myles but that doesn't mean either of them are scum, just people who I will keep an eye on.

Intact: I think you are right to get the ball rolling but I think it should be in a more general sense right now, if you are town you should cast a wide net and not tunnel so quickly. Though you may be right of course, so don't lose sight of the people you get red vibes from.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 29 2012 02:39 GMT
#170
Anacletus, since you didn't answer me earlier I have to assume that you missed my post. What do your notes say? The only reason to hide your reads from us is because you are scum. We, as town, have to win as a collective and that means sharing information. Share your reads with us.

This post: "What about you, monk? The color of the hammer next to your name trying to tell us something? Hell, if nothing else, and we end up with nobody really screaming "scum", we should totally ban the pants off of the banling, just for irony." by JingleHell's name really worries me, he seems to content to kill off someone else for 'the irony' which can only be considered scummy. We need to go after someone, not because it is funny but, because it helps town win. Going after Monk without proof is going against Town's win condition. I don't know if JH is scum but that post seems particularly scummy and I'm not the only one to notice it.

In fact just after making that post claiming that we should kill someone just for shits and gigs JH has continued to fill the thread with nonsense, it seems to me that he knows exactly what he is doing too,
On June 29 2012 10:06 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 10:05 Intact wrote:
On June 29 2012 09:55 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 09:52 NrGmonk wrote:
On June 29 2012 09:46 JingleHell wrote:
What about you, monk? The color of the hammer next to your name trying to tell us something? Hell, if nothing else, and we end up with nobody really screaming "scum", we should totally ban the pants off of the banling, just for irony.

Although, Anacletus, I am going to keep that loose eye on you, and one on Myles. I'm not entirely sure why, but something about your posting is setting off... well, not really alarms, more like having a cell phone on vibrate, but leaving it in your other pair of pants, so that mild buzzing sound.

Seems pretty scummy. Telling people to lynch a somewhat arbitrary player when I haven't done anything to arouse suspicion. O_O


You seem scummy for calling him scummy.


Now this isn't going anywhere..


Which is exactly what a scum would be hoping for. A visible post that doesn't progress things.

That originally joking FoS Anacletus is starting to look serious, rather than just a vital conversation starter.


See that there? He knows that shitting up the thread benefits Mafia but has done it anyway with these joke votes waiting for one to stick. I think that if one had stuck, as he is trying to make his 'scumread' on Anacletus stick he would follow it through to kill a townie. I think that JH is playing a scummy game and its time we showed him that it isn't that easy to push town around and mislead us. I think JH is probably scum based on his play so far, what do you say?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 29 2012 03:27 GMT
#183
On June 29 2012 12:17 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:14 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:13 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:10 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:00 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anacletus you're actively refusing to participate. Not even neglecting to do so (which I was also doing by joking around), but literally saying

On June 29 2012 11:41 Anacletus wrote:
I am not sharing my thoughts as of yet, I don't think that that is in my best interest to do so.


Dumb jokes aside, that is garbage and scummy behavior for anyone in this game. You would be better off lurking and pretending you weren't here, and even that could be considered suspicious. Our goal this early should be making whatever little reads we can and start building cases. Unfortunately we cannot do that with joke posts. Are you planning on giving us any reads? Right now, you have at best 1 post so far that I don't consider a complete write-off. Everyone has to start somewhere...


I'm not actively refusing to participate.

I just don't want to throw around accusations because I think that that will be aggressive and more like scum play. I think I'll wait for a few more people to post before I post any reads.


This isn't a court of law, it's more like Jerry Springer. You talk to people, you lead into questions that get the discussion going the right way, and you start looking for things to poke at. Waiting for someone else to make a case and then bandwagoning looks pretty scummy too, so you're not doing yourself any favors.

I'd be poking in other directions more, except there's damn few directions to poke right now.


Yeah I know, I've played mafia before. It's just that refusing to participate is pretty serious and is mentioned in the rules.


He wasn't suggesting that type of refusal, he's talking about not working with us, despite these reads, and pages of notes you claim to have. If you're not helping us look for scum, you're hindering the hunt. If you're not with us, you're against us.


From what I generally see in mafia, the town is the most active in posting when the game starts, while the mafia generally don't post and lurk a while. I've been posting a lot and I really think it's too early to start calling out scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
I said I had 8 pages of notes, that was obviously a joke, I don't know shit, bro!




While the bolded may be true it is never too early to start hunting for scum. Share your reads with us. What do you think about JingleHell? Anyone else?

If you don't have any notes why have you been filling the thread with trash about your notes? Just babbling helps scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 29 2012 03:56 GMT
#188
On June 29 2012 12:36 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:27 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:17 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:14 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:13 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:10 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:00 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anacletus you're actively refusing to participate. Not even neglecting to do so (which I was also doing by joking around), but literally saying

On June 29 2012 11:41 Anacletus wrote:
I am not sharing my thoughts as of yet, I don't think that that is in my best interest to do so.


Dumb jokes aside, that is garbage and scummy behavior for anyone in this game. You would be better off lurking and pretending you weren't here, and even that could be considered suspicious. Our goal this early should be making whatever little reads we can and start building cases. Unfortunately we cannot do that with joke posts. Are you planning on giving us any reads? Right now, you have at best 1 post so far that I don't consider a complete write-off. Everyone has to start somewhere...


I'm not actively refusing to participate.

I just don't want to throw around accusations because I think that that will be aggressive and more like scum play. I think I'll wait for a few more people to post before I post any reads.


This isn't a court of law, it's more like Jerry Springer. You talk to people, you lead into questions that get the discussion going the right way, and you start looking for things to poke at. Waiting for someone else to make a case and then bandwagoning looks pretty scummy too, so you're not doing yourself any favors.

I'd be poking in other directions more, except there's damn few directions to poke right now.


Yeah I know, I've played mafia before. It's just that refusing to participate is pretty serious and is mentioned in the rules.


He wasn't suggesting that type of refusal, he's talking about not working with us, despite these reads, and pages of notes you claim to have. If you're not helping us look for scum, you're hindering the hunt. If you're not with us, you're against us.


From what I generally see in mafia, the town is the most active in posting when the game starts, while the mafia generally don't post and lurk a while. I've been posting a lot and I really think it's too early to start calling out scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
I said I had 8 pages of notes, that was obviously a joke, I don't know shit, bro!




While the bolded may be true it is never too early to start hunting for scum. Share your reads with us. What do you think about JingleHell? Anyone else?

If you don't have any notes why have you been filling the thread with trash about your notes? Just babbling helps scum.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347856&currentpage=8#155

If you actually thought that this was true...

I think JingleHell is playing aggressively which leads me to believe that he is a townie.

I only made the one about any supposed notes, the thread has 10 pages. So no, I am not filling the thread with trash about notes.


You also said that you had eight pages of notes and profiles on people. While I didn't think that the length of your notes or strength of your reads were what you said they were I assumed that you wouldn't just play around so much. I don't like those posts or the one where you insinuate that scum doesn't post early. I particularly don't like that you lied about how many of these posts you've made.

You have played before, that gives you an edge over most of us. We need to work together to find scum, if you are town give us your reads. More information is better for us. What do you think of JingleHell or anybody else, give us a first impression or a gut feeling at least, you must have some thoughts.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 29 2012 04:04 GMT
#190
On June 29 2012 13:01 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:56 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:36 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:27 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:17 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:14 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:13 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:10 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:00 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 11:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anacletus you're actively refusing to participate. Not even neglecting to do so (which I was also doing by joking around), but literally saying

[quote]

Dumb jokes aside, that is garbage and scummy behavior for anyone in this game. You would be better off lurking and pretending you weren't here, and even that could be considered suspicious. Our goal this early should be making whatever little reads we can and start building cases. Unfortunately we cannot do that with joke posts. Are you planning on giving us any reads? Right now, you have at best 1 post so far that I don't consider a complete write-off. Everyone has to start somewhere...


I'm not actively refusing to participate.

I just don't want to throw around accusations because I think that that will be aggressive and more like scum play. I think I'll wait for a few more people to post before I post any reads.


This isn't a court of law, it's more like Jerry Springer. You talk to people, you lead into questions that get the discussion going the right way, and you start looking for things to poke at. Waiting for someone else to make a case and then bandwagoning looks pretty scummy too, so you're not doing yourself any favors.

I'd be poking in other directions more, except there's damn few directions to poke right now.


Yeah I know, I've played mafia before. It's just that refusing to participate is pretty serious and is mentioned in the rules.


He wasn't suggesting that type of refusal, he's talking about not working with us, despite these reads, and pages of notes you claim to have. If you're not helping us look for scum, you're hindering the hunt. If you're not with us, you're against us.


From what I generally see in mafia, the town is the most active in posting when the game starts, while the mafia generally don't post and lurk a while. I've been posting a lot and I really think it's too early to start calling out scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
I said I had 8 pages of notes, that was obviously a joke, I don't know shit, bro!




While the bolded may be true it is never too early to start hunting for scum. Share your reads with us. What do you think about JingleHell? Anyone else?

If you don't have any notes why have you been filling the thread with trash about your notes? Just babbling helps scum.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347856&currentpage=8#155

If you actually thought that this was true...

I think JingleHell is playing aggressively which leads me to believe that he is a townie.

I only made the one about any supposed notes, the thread has 10 pages. So no, I am not filling the thread with trash about notes.


You also said that you had eight pages of notes and profiles on people. While I didn't think that the length of your notes or strength of your reads were what you said they were I assumed that you wouldn't just play around so much. I don't like those posts or the one where you insinuate that scum doesn't post early. I particularly don't like that you lied about how many of these posts you've made.

You have played before, that gives you an edge over most of us. We need to work together to find scum, if you are town give us your reads. More information is better for us. What do you think of JingleHell or anybody else, give us a first impression or a gut feeling at least, you must have some thoughts.


I already said that from what I've seen the mafia is generally extremely passive the first day, so my general thoughts on Jingle is that he is a townie.


Okay, how about the other 10 players? Do you have any reads?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 29 2012 04:04 GMT
#191
EBWOP ...any other reads?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 29 2012 04:11 GMT
#193
On June 29 2012 13:05 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 13:04 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 13:01 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:56 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:36 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:27 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:17 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:14 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:13 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:10 JingleHell wrote:
[quote]

This isn't a court of law, it's more like Jerry Springer. You talk to people, you lead into questions that get the discussion going the right way, and you start looking for things to poke at. Waiting for someone else to make a case and then bandwagoning looks pretty scummy too, so you're not doing yourself any favors.

I'd be poking in other directions more, except there's damn few directions to poke right now.


Yeah I know, I've played mafia before. It's just that refusing to participate is pretty serious and is mentioned in the rules.


He wasn't suggesting that type of refusal, he's talking about not working with us, despite these reads, and pages of notes you claim to have. If you're not helping us look for scum, you're hindering the hunt. If you're not with us, you're against us.


From what I generally see in mafia, the town is the most active in posting when the game starts, while the mafia generally don't post and lurk a while. I've been posting a lot and I really think it's too early to start calling out scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
I said I had 8 pages of notes, that was obviously a joke, I don't know shit, bro!




While the bolded may be true it is never too early to start hunting for scum. Share your reads with us. What do you think about JingleHell? Anyone else?

If you don't have any notes why have you been filling the thread with trash about your notes? Just babbling helps scum.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347856&currentpage=8#155

If you actually thought that this was true...

I think JingleHell is playing aggressively which leads me to believe that he is a townie.

I only made the one about any supposed notes, the thread has 10 pages. So no, I am not filling the thread with trash about notes.


You also said that you had eight pages of notes and profiles on people. While I didn't think that the length of your notes or strength of your reads were what you said they were I assumed that you wouldn't just play around so much. I don't like those posts or the one where you insinuate that scum doesn't post early. I particularly don't like that you lied about how many of these posts you've made.

You have played before, that gives you an edge over most of us. We need to work together to find scum, if you are town give us your reads. More information is better for us. What do you think of JingleHell or anybody else, give us a first impression or a gut feeling at least, you must have some thoughts.


I already said that from what I've seen the mafia is generally extremely passive the first day, so my general thoughts on Jingle is that he is a townie.


Okay, how about the other 10 players? Do you have any reads?


Do you have any reads on them >_> ?


You have said some things that make me uncomfortable, Fencer and Umlat are useless, BlindRawr hasn't said much but he has used a lot of words to say it and otherwise no, I'm in the dark. I just want to have something from you, it is weird to me that you have played before, posted so much and don't have even a single guess that you want to share with town.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 29 2012 04:35 GMT
#196
On June 29 2012 13:13 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 13:01 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:56 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:36 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:27 Promethelax wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:17 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:14 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:13 Anacletus wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:10 JingleHell wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:00 Anacletus wrote:
[quote]

I'm not actively refusing to participate.

I just don't want to throw around accusations because I think that that will be aggressive and more like scum play. I think I'll wait for a few more people to post before I post any reads.


This isn't a court of law, it's more like Jerry Springer. You talk to people, you lead into questions that get the discussion going the right way, and you start looking for things to poke at. Waiting for someone else to make a case and then bandwagoning looks pretty scummy too, so you're not doing yourself any favors.

I'd be poking in other directions more, except there's damn few directions to poke right now.


Yeah I know, I've played mafia before. It's just that refusing to participate is pretty serious and is mentioned in the rules.


He wasn't suggesting that type of refusal, he's talking about not working with us, despite these reads, and pages of notes you claim to have. If you're not helping us look for scum, you're hindering the hunt. If you're not with us, you're against us.


From what I generally see in mafia, the town is the most active in posting when the game starts, while the mafia generally don't post and lurk a while. I've been posting a lot and I really think it's too early to start calling out scum.

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I said I had 8 pages of notes, that was obviously a joke, I don't know shit, bro!




While the bolded may be true it is never too early to start hunting for scum. Share your reads with us. What do you think about JingleHell? Anyone else?

If you don't have any notes why have you been filling the thread with trash about your notes? Just babbling helps scum.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347856&currentpage=8#155

If you actually thought that this was true...

I think JingleHell is playing aggressively which leads me to believe that he is a townie.

I only made the one about any supposed notes, the thread has 10 pages. So no, I am not filling the thread with trash about notes.


You also said that you had eight pages of notes and profiles on people. While I didn't think that the length of your notes or strength of your reads were what you said they were I assumed that you wouldn't just play around so much. I don't like those posts or the one where you insinuate that scum doesn't post early. I particularly don't like that you lied about how many of these posts you've made.

You have played before, that gives you an edge over most of us. We need to work together to find scum, if you are town give us your reads. More information is better for us. What do you think of JingleHell or anybody else, give us a first impression or a gut feeling at least, you must have some thoughts.


I already said that from what I've seen the mafia is generally extremely passive the first day, so my general thoughts on Jingle is that he is a townie.

So by that logic filter AmericanUmlaut and Fencer710 are definatly mafia. I dont buy the passive argument its only been a few hours they could just be busy hell they might not have even opened their pms with their role yet.

since the only information we have is the ramblings my top 2 right now are ancaletus and promethelax but i wouldnt put much stock in either right now.


I don't see why scumhunting is a scum activity, I'll just sit here and scratch my head until someone can tell me.

perfection: I'd love to hear your reasoning for your town reads at least. Remember, if you are town you help us by explaining your reads and your reasoning, if you are scum you better post those reads anyway or we'll know.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 30 2012 00:14 GMT
#272
Okay, as you can tell I've been gone for a while; sleeping and working. I just read the thread and I apologize if I missed anything. (In case you aren't sure if you belive me I work every Tuesday-Saturday from 11-7 ADT (I'll be working Sunday this week too) and that, along with my commute and my sleeps, takes up the time that I am not posting) You can also check the other game I am in hereand compare timestamps. You will note that while I am around I post in both threads and while I am away from my computer I don't post anything.

That being said I think that Fencer is scummier than Anacle-whateverhtefuckhisfullnameis and here is why:
Our good friend #710 tried to get a band wagon started on Anacletus with that first vote which he cast long before anyone else, right after ##voteing ole Blindy posts:
On June 29 2012 21:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
we still have 2 lurkers/inactive players, until we can get them to talk and really get some info from them I'd lay off of voting.


Which is shortly followed by an ##unvote from Fencer.

Fencer tried to get a bandwagon rolling but when it failed he backed right off. He was testing teh waters and found them tepid. As soon as someone else ##voted Anacletus Fencer jumped right back on the bandwagon hoping to get it rolling and look what happened. Now Anacletus is one vote away from being lynched and Fencer is pretending that he is town.

Now I do think Anancletus has posted some fishy stuff, in fact I said just that earlier, but I believe that Fencer jumped on the fishiest sounding guy and is trying to make us townies follow him to our own demise.

Now if you don;t already believe me, and you should, let's take a long walk down memory lane in the way of his filter:

We'll start with this gem.
On June 29 2012 18:47 Fencer710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 18:25 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 29 2012 18:22 Fencer710 wrote:
Sorry T_T. I was literally asleep during the day.

For better or for worse, my views are the same as Umlaut's. I can't really add anything. :\

No, no, no. No coming in here and latching on to someone else's opinions. Me-tooing is the easiest way to just scoot by under the radar without attracting any attention. What do you find so compelling about my arguments? What thoughts of your own do you have? Just popping in here and saying "Sorry, I'm here, too" is not different from lurking and doing nothing in any way that matters.

shit I'm an idiot. I'm acting like scum. I also forgot to mention this is my first game.

I guess it's my fault for having the same views as you. Do you want me to word it differently as well? I'll do so:

- Anacletus is very suspicious, not really doing anything but posting a lot.

-Jinglehell is similar, but doesn't feel as suspicious since he actually has some direction although he is a bit all over the place as well.

I'll talk more later, I have to reread everything a few more times :\


where Fencer's first post clearly tries to buddy up to a, probably, towny. When he is immediately called out for it he cries NEWB! as if that would make a difference. We're in a newbie game of course you are a newb. Fencer's defense is lackluster at best and scummy at worst.

His next post is another classic where he points the finger at two guys who he could build a reasonable case against by simply saying: "For some reason I can't say exactly [pinpoint] why it makes me tick, but it does." He is trying to start a another bandwagon with no evidence, if he was a townie he would use logic and reason to find scum not just 'some reason'

now in his next four post (all of which are one-liners) there is one which actually had me laughing out loud this example of what not to say when you are scum:
On June 29 2012 21:15 Fencer710 wrote:
Wow, I didn't realize that the only thing JH was talking about was lynching players.


Seriously that is his entire post. What the hell else should we be doing?

So, to make a long case short, Fencer is scum.

##vote: Fencer710
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 30 2012 00:16 GMT
#273
EBWOP:

I meant to add why I'm not looking at JingleHell any more. It was mentioned that this is just how he plays and his meta conforms to his usual types of posting in the real ABL. Since that is the case I can't find him scummy simply based on his seemingly chaotic actions.

I'll still be watching Mr. theHell very closely but I am no longer sure that he is scummy.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 30 2012 02:15 GMT
#286
On June 30 2012 10:48 Intact wrote:
In addition, should we lynch analectus and he turns put to be mafia, it would make it fairly easy to point out the other mafia. And if he turns out to be townie it would be very easy to confirm some townies.


I'm 99% sure that if Anacletus flips town Fencer is scum. His behaviour makes no sense otherwise. I still think Anacletus might be scum if he is than Fencer is probably town but if Anacletus is town Fencer is almost definitely scum. If, when I wake up tomorrow, we don't have enough votes for a lynch I'll unvote and vote for Anacletus since a no lynch won't help us at all and if he flips town I'm sure that Fencer is scum.

We should never lynch for information, obviously but we should be ready to use the information from our lynches.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 30 2012 04:38 GMT
#295
On June 30 2012 12:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 12:20 Fencer710 wrote:
OK, guys. I have to go to bed. My closing thoughts in case I don't make the deadline tomorrow:

Remember, 7 people have to decide to lynch the same guy in order for there to be a lynch. It's me, Anacletus, or nothing.
You can be meta all you want in your head, but it doesn't change what actually goes on in the thread.
Remember to read and reread all the posts!


I'll take you over Anacletus today. You're posting is extremely unproductive to me. It doesnt seem all that scummy, but its a massive hindrance when you don't provide anything for discussion, just constantly droning about how your new and guides are super cool.

##Vote: Fencer710


You don't think Fencer is scum but you voted him? What the hell? If you are town this is horrible play, vote for someone who you think is scum not someone you think is annoying. Now, I think Fencer is scum so I voted him; what are you doing?

On June 30 2012 11:26 JingleHell wrote:
If you're really having trouble, and not just trying to be consistent to cover up the slips from earlier, I suggest you go read all of the linked guides, (no really, all of them). Then, forget all the advice you just read, because everyone has read it, and you'll just metagame yourself into a tizzy for no reason. Instead, focus on the generalizations, the state of mind, and the thought processes that were discussed.

However, I can easily see this, like I said, as you just trying to be consistent with your earlier behavior to try and get BotD.


This is really good advice, we should all follow it. We don't need townies acting like scum just because they are dumb. Come on guys there are 9 of us, we need to start working together, our strength is in numbers.

This
On June 30 2012 12:20 Fencer710 wrote:
OK, guys. I have to go to bed. My closing thoughts in case I don't make the deadline tomorrow:

Remember, 7 people have to decide to lynch the same guy in order for there to be a lynch. It's me, Anacletus, or nothing.
You can be meta all you want in your head, but it doesn't change what actually goes on in the thread.
Remember to read and reread all the posts!

is why I can't imagine that you are town, I bring a case against you and your reaction is to give really generic advice and go to bed? You may as well just claim scum in the thread.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 30 2012 04:50 GMT
#297
On June 30 2012 13:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Fencer has been quite unproductive, making excuses about being a newbie when he knows this is a newbie game, posting a lot to compensate for that, but I'm not ready to unvote for anacletus just yet.

Is there anyway to know what roles have been filled by players?(I'm not asking who is what, I'm asking only the roles that has been filled since this has so few players therefore not all roles are filled on both sides)


Although I can't speak to this game I've never once seen a game where we get to learn that in any way except figuring it out for ourselves but thank you! You reminded me I had a question:

Can we get a vote count? Please and thanks
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 30 2012 13:19 GMT
#301
Well this is obnoxious, I think Anaacletus is scummy but I think Fencer is more scummy, however I will be at work when the voting ends and this is my last minute in this thread for this day cycle, since I think a no lynch is really bad for us I am going to switch my vote to Anacletus, I hope that if he flips town you all will look at my Fencer case, he really does look more scummy to me.

I'm putting the hammer on Anacletus because we need a lynch and I won't be here to convince people that we should get Fencer, I would leave my vote on Fencer if I thought I could make the rest of you realize that he is scum but since you seem to want to go for the second reddest person I will do that as well to ensure a lynch.

I hope that if we are wrong and Anacletus is town you will all take a second look at my case on Fencer, if Anacletus is town Fencer is even more likely to be scum.

@Intact: If Anacletus flips scum and you feel the need to go after me I can't stop you, you should go after Fencer but if you don't do that you should go after him on day three after I flip green (all this assuming I live through the next two nights which I probably won't without medic protection).

##Unvote: Fencer710
##Vote: Anacletus

Is there any way to make sure I don't have to do this in the future since I won't be around for the voting deadline? i.e. would it be possible to PM one of you to say my preferences in terms of my vote. That a lynch is better than a no lynch and a lynch on Fenccer is better than a lynch on Anacletus and so on. I want my vote to count but I also have to make it about 12 hours before the deadline which really messes with me, thanks.
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