EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XIX
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This seems to be the only course of action right now... But I'm prepared to change my mind if someone else starts acting very odd. | ||
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 I have next to no idea what I'm doing and despite having read up on all of the resources still am a bit lost. As for reads, I just have a feeling about Anacletus, but whether or not he's scum I have no idea the same with Fencer.I didn't post earlier because I just woke up and last night I was playing a game of Civ IV with my friends :D | ||
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On July 01 2012 03:43 AmericanUmlaut wrote: This is the last time I want to see this as an argument from anyone. This is a newbie game; none of us is a veteran player. And it doesn't matter. Failing to contribute is failing to contribute, regardless of your experience level. If you're town, we need you joining in on the discussion so that we have the information we need to establish that you're on our side. Okay dude. Sorry but some people in here have played before maybe not TL mafia but other versions. I've played absolutely nothing similar. Note: okay dude is not meant to be condescending or anything like that sorry if it comes across that way. | ||
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On July 01 2012 04:50 iamperfection wrote: I would like to point out that you basicaly used the same argument fencer made several pages ago that he was asleep and just happened to latch on to antoher persons view. It really doesnt matter if your townie or not but your post is especially bad because not only do you cast suspicion on your self for no reason you are in no way helping the town if in fact you are a townie. If you had simply read the thread you would have seen the same thing happening to fencer. Wait so you're saying that because I point out that I couldn't post responses to the statements that I hadn't been posting because I was asleep, and saying that I don't post much anyway so not talking much wouldn't be indicative of anything, means that I'm not helping? I was debating the points others have, and by doing so am causing discussion (Which is what we want). So if I may ask if you are accusing me of something just come out and say it. | ||
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People are bandwagoning onto fencer now I agree he was acting odd but it's not conclusive Jingle and Promethelax are working together quite well and the rest of us are just following them. They seem to have alot of the same ideas... paying attention to them Myles hasn't posted to little or to much, he's playing it super safe. Not a clue Blind is, more or less in the same boat as me albeit a bit less so. See above AmericanUmlaut is doing quite well all his moves are well thought out but we still have no idea what side he's on could be one could be the other. No idea for him either Hopeless1der also seems to be the victim of a bit of bandwagoning but he seems pretty cool I'm thinking he's a town but hey I could be wrong Lastly Intact has been promoting conversation since the game began but seems to be in the same boat as me and perfection in that he hasn't posted enough. also not posting enough but I don't know That's all I got, keeping in mind that we have only one death so far and the night is going to be the most important bit so far because as Jingle said, the scum will try to set someone up Do games normally move this pace or faster/slower? | ||
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On July 01 2012 09:37 Promethelax wrote: Can we talk about the piece that I bolded and put in italics? You seriously think the two most active townies are scum? If we were scum this game would be over. There is no one else in town who is constantly building cases and working to promote a town agenda anywhere near as much as me or JH. You seriously are worried because we have simlar pro town mentalities? Yes I am. You to are the most active right now and as I said, we're ALL following what you guys are doing. I didn't say you were scum I said that it'd odd that you two right out of the gate are helping each other and building on what the other said. | ||
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On July 01 2012 10:20 JingleHell wrote: Right now I'm feeling "towny scared out of shell". It's kind of like Anacletus' early posts, it's useless, but it feels almost too useless to be intentional. I prefer "Paranoid as hell dude who has no idea what to do" to "towny scared out of shell" JH. | ||
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(In the same boat with promethelax but with Rum+coke>beer) | ||
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On July 02 2012 08:25 Promethelax wrote: Gin and tognic now! If JH dead I die next nigght unless medic. I'm only town taking lead, I think scum look at me and JH, ccoinflip lands on a crumb so it comms up JH. They decide kill me nixt night. Still think reads good: JH and I on same path. FoS Hopless and Myless and little bet Fencer too. I lik eBob now, he is drinky too! But too lurkey. YAY BOOZE :D:D:D:D I'm haveing a bit of lime beer right now because I ran out of coke am going to get more soon Also <3 spellcheck + chrome ! | ||
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I don't want to speak for the rest of the town, but that hold's no credibility with me. Also, I'm still wondering where the other lurkers are. It's been a lot of the same people posting for a while now and it'd be nice to get some insight from iamperfection, blind-rawr, and bobthelob - who I hope doesn't think I forgotten about in the mists of his low altitude. We're also still waiting for our new member's first contribution. I have to agree here, Intact if you want to convince us you have plenty of places you can go to type up a small paragraph or two to help your case, a library or something would be fine On July 03 2012 14:32 sciberbia wrote: Next up: BobTheLob scummy bandwaggoning on anacletus+ Show Spoiler + On June 30 2012 02:05 BobTheLob wrote: ##Vote Analectus This seems to be the only course of action right now... But I'm prepared to change my mind if someone else starts acting very odd. I believe this is the fifth vote on Anacletus. This is the first time BobtheLob has even mentioned Anacletus (or made any relevant posts for that matter). Quite a scummy bandwaggon vote with abysmal reasoning behind it. uses scummy excuses such as "newbie" and "lurking playstyle":+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 02:44 BobTheLob wrote: Just as a small defence for myself, I never post much and rarely post more than a few lines, it's just how I post as for bandwagoning... I'm new I have next to no idea what I'm doing and despite having read up on all of the resources still am a bit lost. As for reads, I just have a feeling about Anacletus, but whether or not he's scum I have no idea the same with Fencer.I didn't post earlier because I just woke up and last night I was playing a game of Civ IV with my friends :D The "I'm a newbie" excuse is a well documented ploy by newbie scum. It is an ingratiating maneuver -- attempting to gain sympathy. Townies don't have any motivation to convince everyone how newbie they are; it only makes their cases seem less credible. Not only does he state a newbie excuse in this post, but he makes very noncomittal statements about Anacletus and Fencer. Scum never want to be held accountable for any of their reads or votes. On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote: Okay, I've lurked this entire game and I'm starting to realize that that is a bad idea... And here he admits to consciously lurking. What? This is scummy. Townies have strong motivation not to lurk -- we need to hunt out the scum. Extremely noncomittal scumhunting+ Show Spoiler + I already pointed out how he was super wishy/washy about Fencer and Anacletus. Here is the only other post of BobTheLob's where he posts some real reads: On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote: People are bandwagoning onto fencer now I agree he was acting odd but it's not conclusive Jingle and Promethelax are working together quite well and the rest of us are just following them. They seem to have alot of the same ideas... paying attention to them Myles hasn't posted to little or to much, he's playing it super safe. Not a clue Blind is, more or less in the same boat as me albeit a bit less so. See above AmericanUmlaut is doing quite well all his moves are well thought out but we still have no idea what side he's on could be one could be the other. No idea for him either Hopeless1der also seems to be the victim of a bit of bandwagoning but he seems pretty cool I'm thinking he's a town but hey I could be wrong Lastly Intact has been promoting conversation since the game began but seems to be in the same boat as me and perfection in that he hasn't posted enough. also not posting enough but I don't know That's all I got, keeping in mind that we have only one death so far and the night is going to be the most important bit so far because as Jingle said, the scum will try to set someone up Do games normally move this pace or faster/slower? You could summarize this post as "I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No idea. Thinking town but could be wrong. I don't know." Townies should actively hunt out scummy behavior and form suspicions. BobTheLob does not. FoS BobTheLob I've tried to hunt scum down but, like the rest of us I have found nothing saying that POSTER X IS SCUM. The major difference is that I didn't state any thing in regards to people I think are very scummy. Intact seems to be up next on the block, or if not him then me or Blind, but no-matter what people are going to do a lot of guessing here. We are still trying to get a good lynch, but unfortunately we can't find conclusive evidence and are mostly just pointing fingers at each other. The scum are probably laughing at all of us right now, and while I realize that this is still only the second day I have a feeling that if we don't lynch a scum this time around people will just point fingers at people who haven't been contributing as much (As you are doing [not that I can fault you for that] ) and we will continue to get no where. So to address your concerns: I'm a regular townie no roles or anything and am just trying to get by, I believe that Blind is probably one as well and that Intact seems suspicious, also fencars replacement gets a free live an extra day card because we probably wont just lynch him first day either but we would have if it was still him playing. | ||
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On July 04 2012 00:29 iamperfection wrote: I agree with a lot of the points you laid out here but i dont agree with the final conclusion. Blindy has been like several others lurking (myself included) The case that you put up against him not even close to how strong of an argument that you put out on bobthelob. This post in particular is the one that bothers me As you pointed out this is very wishy washy but also this only serves as attempt to confuse the town and drive us all against each other. He is effectivly saying " hey you know who scould be scum. Everybody" He could then still stay off to the sideline with his non commitment when the lynching dosent go the towns way. What do we really have on blindy to go on besides lurking. He has given limited reads like my fellow lurkers but of the reads he did give he gave one right one in thinking jingle was town. In my view Blind has been trying to help the town while bob had been trying to hurt us. Bolding that bit because I still think its true, most of my recent posts have been the same thing. Nobody has anything conclusive, it's all guesswork and assumptions. I've admitted that I lurked to much and have also made a point to try posting more, but even so it seems that just made people take more notice of me, Blind is still lurking a lot more than me but I seem to be taking a lot of the heat off of the people who we thought before were scummy, Intact, Hopeless ect. While I agree that Hopeless has made a good case for himself It shouldn't stop people from looking at him more closely. | ||
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On July 04 2012 01:39 AmericanUmlaut wrote: So look at him more closely and share your thoughts. If you're town you should be helping us scum hunt and not explaining how scum hunting is impossible Okay then, lets get started. Intacts explanations were, Poor play which is something that we all agreed wasn't something you really need to point out, and it is a tad bit scummy as was said to me. Next he says that "I'm trying to make a read and be a little meta." which is odd to me as JH pointed out that being meta wont help at all and Intact should know that it isn't the best excuse. As a follow up he says that he was "really convinced of my read as analectus being scum and thus promethelax coming out with a late post to save him seemed to fit perfectly with what my read was." and in my opinion you should never be convinced of a read unless you have evidence OR the play is so obviously scummy that almost everyone picks up on it. Then he pulls out the bad play card again, something I have been told isn't any good. His follow up is much of the same "Again, I'm just trying to get discussion going early on. I realize I was a bit too eager to get a read off and again I'm gonna have to point to my inexperience" with the whole inexperience thing acting as a crutch Now lets get to some of his earlier posts. Now while Myles and Promethelax have gone over most of the points I mean to make here there are something I want to point out He has 7-10 posts that are in anyway related to this, the rest are just there to say "I'm still in the game gimme a bit more time to make an argument". While I realize that he could have been telling the truth, There are many places in this world with computers and an internet connection, be it a library or a computer cafe. On June 30 2012 10:29 Intact wrote: I'm going to stand by my read as analectus being scum but I have also become very suspicious of promethelax. People may have been bandwagoning analectus but as soon as he got into lynching territory promethelax show up with a long thread pointing out someone else, thereby making some people switch vote. This causes divisions and tensions among the town which is exactly what the scum want. I lean more towards fencer just playing badly and promethelax trying to save his scum partner analectus. Now he stands by his read but also puts one onto Promethelax who at the time was with JH the only people giving advice and direction. He says that because Promethelax was trying to help by making an argument he was scummy. Due to time I'm pushing this out so its not as finished as I would like. ##Vote Intact because I feel that is the best course of action for the town right now. | ||
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