Snarfie mac snarfs, I expect us to finally be townies together, and I expect that luck number 7 will be my first win. I am setting up preparations for the victory celebration.
On June 20 2012 23:25 marvellosity wrote: marv/VE/Prob scumteam gogo
Oh my god....TL Mafia would never recover.
Ive been in a town whitewash before (in fact the original C9++) so at least the game would be over quickly Ill have to crack open some champagne if I win this one.
On June 21 2012 02:36 grush57 wrote: /in COMMON BIG ORCA.
y u never read
Don't encourage him, if he doesn't even bother to read the OP, he won't bother to read the thread. Given it looks like he will be in the game, I am going to put on my nostradamus hat and
Following on from Sloosh's post, for those who haven't played a C9++ setup before here are the possible setups (Klicky)
It is worth noting that Bugs has altered this a little so we cannot rely on these as concrete rules. However the most important thing to remember is that in this setup, it is possible to have weird things such as two medics.
On June 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote: Marv, if you were to pick out the differences in your scum play and your town play, what would you point to?
I like this question a lot. I think there are a couple of possible tells. But tell me what you think first.
SCUM
On June 22 2012 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote: The point of the self-evaluation was to see if you left anything out - obviously we can go and look for ourselves Marv, and we'll have our own opinion...but for you to turn the question around and ask for his answer first is incredibly scummy and immediately forces me to not trust you.
He still hasn't responded adequately. He is around note
On June 22 2012 08:17 marvellosity wrote: VE, prplhz last played with Zentor in WoF.
Enough said really.
But is he isn't bothering to actually answer Mattchew's question. So yeah, why the let up?
On June 22 2012 08:44 marvellosity wrote: Probey, you'll have to get in touch with my lawyer.
And I have at least partly answered the question, you're just not on the ball enough to have worked it out yet.
count how many times anyone said i said or even hinted at anything scummy in LV see the pressure i was under at the start in magic at the start for wanting to shoot NT off the bat compare to current situation
Why are you so cryptic? It's your job to prove you're town so you should want to provide information to us.
A large number of us played in the original C9++ where I got ass raped. I would suggest reading Bug's post game analysis again. It highlights how scum can use fake claims to their advantage. In short, I don't want anyone to claim unless they are certain they can prove they're town.
Masons can wait, unless they are up for lynch, they should be quiet for today. Everyone else keep your mouth shut. We play this game based on posting, claim when you absolutely have to and not before then. The less opportunity we give to WIFOM us the better.
On June 22 2012 09:38 slOosh wrote: It's absolutely imperative that we resolve this miller claim issue. If we aren't all on the same page then scum can use the miller business to screw us over later. It has to be clear. Late-claiming millers will be policy lynched on the basis of it is purely anti-town. Scum can also "look VT and pro-town", so that is just foolish Zephirdd.
How about we just ignore Millers? I mean no-one has claimed, they are just a possibility and even then, for them to have any influence on the game, they have to be checked by a DT. Like I said earlier, beware any claim in this setup. So let's drop the issue. If we get screwed because someone plays scummy, gets checked red and turns out to be miller, well so be it.
Can you do something other than go on about Millers?
Where the fuck is Mattchew? He is the one that asked Marv the original question and has nothing to say about Marv's response or the push on Marv?
On June 22 2012 09:46 Probulous wrote: @Marv, do you think VE is scum?
I think he's pushing me dodgily. Haven't worked out if it's scummy or VE just being VE yet.
See here is what I don't understand.
Mattchew asks you a simple question about what is different between your scum and your town play.
You say it's a good question (it is actually) and then you don't answer.
You get pushed to answer and you refer briefly to differences between the openings of two games (one town, one mafia). But you don't explicitly state what the difference are, or how they help us determine your alignment. To me it seems like an attempt to brush off the question and move onto other "more important" things.
Then when other people start pushing you, you get all snarky which just makes me go
You tell VE to go read the games but when he comes back with his response you say he is misrepresenting you but you don't think he is scum.
Why haven't you answered the original question? You admitted it's a good question, you claim VE is misrepresenting you but isn't scum so surely the best way to clear your name would be to outline exactly what you intended when you briefly referenced those games. I mean you seem to be saying that VE is mistaken but don't bother to actually take the time to thorughly correct the mistake. Why?
Because you don't want to answer the question. Townies want to provide data and clarity and you just wanted to move onto other things.
In this game, unless you underestimate me which I think you do not, you should be aware that I know making a sidestep to Mattchew's question could be viewed scummily, and I'd avoid it like the fucking plague if I were scum.
So by not answering his question you were proving you're town?
On June 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote: Marv, if you were to pick out the differences in your scum play and your town play, what would you point to?
I like this question a lot. I think there are a couple of possible tells. But tell me what you think first.
On June 22 2012 07:32 marvellosity wrote: lol, ok dear. If people could look for themselves, then maybe just one person in the whole of LV and the obsQT might have had a tingling suspicion, no? No.
3)You explain that this was not a mistake but instead part of an elaborate plan to do something no scum would do and so therefore prove you are town
On June 22 2012 10:05 marvellosity wrote: "The similar thing, VE, is that I wasn't afraid of saying something that was scummy in that game. In this game, unless you underestimate me which I think you do not, you should be aware that I know making a sidestep to Mattchew's question could be viewed scummily, and I'd avoid it like the fucking plague if I were scum."
If you are town, you are saying that you deliberately avoided answering Mattchew to cause a shitstorm to prove you're town? You don't say it was a mistake, or a joke but rather a calculated plan. You give yourself too little credit Marv. I think you're scum who tried to joke off a difficult question and didn't expect people to latch onto it. Now you are backpedalling as fast as you can.
On June 22 2012 10:00 slOosh wrote: VE I think you are paranoid town right now. Yes, Marv could be scum. But I really don't see it right now and it's dominating the thread in a bad way. Zephirdd, the benefits of a "possible blue" is nothing compared to the possible headaches caused by miller claims. That's why we make any miller claim D1.