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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 20 2012 03:36 GMT
#6
/in. Replacement is for whimps.

Bugs to the rescue!

Snarfie mac snarfs, I expect us to finally be townies together, and I expect that luck number 7 will be my first win. I am setting up preparations for the victory celebration.

Humming this is just so much fun


This is C9++ setup no?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 03:50:06
June 20 2012 03:48 GMT
#9
[image blocked]

One day I will lead my growing horde of losers to Victo...

Um. One day I lead my growing legion of merry men to a great and glorious triump...

One...

Ah shit
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 20 2012 06:15 GMT
#14
On June 20 2012 13:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm /in to LVI, so feel free to nix me if demand...demands it. I'll be a replacement instead, if needed.


This would make me sad. I want to be completely wrong/right about you again and unsuccesfully try to persuade the thread to lynch/save you.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 20 2012 23:06 GMT
#32
On June 21 2012 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
marv/VE/Prob scumteam gogo


Oh my god....TL Mafia would never recover.


Ive been in a town whitewash before (in fact the original C9++) so at least the game would be over quickly Ill have to crack open some champagne if I win this one.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 21 2012 03:13 GMT
#36
On June 21 2012 11:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 02:36 grush57 wrote:
/in
COMMON BIG ORCA.


y u never read


Don't encourage him, if he doesn't even bother to read the OP, he won't bother to read the thread. Given it looks like he will be in the game, I am going to put on my nostradamus hat and

##Vote grush57
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 21 2012 23:25 GMT
#118
Guys, guys, guys....

I'm sorry but I am town this game. Snarfs, that's mean and I thought we were friends

@VE, your vote makes little sense what happened to Marv? Actually, where is Marv, he owes me my alimony?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 21 2012 23:29 GMT
#123
Following on from Sloosh's post, for those who haven't played a C9++ setup before here are the possible setups (Klicky)

It is worth noting that Bugs has altered this a little so we cannot rely on these as concrete rules. However the most important thing to remember is that in this setup, it is possible to have weird things such as two medics.

In short, be wary of claims.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 21 2012 23:40 GMT
#125
On June 22 2012 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Votes = Tools. Not going over this again this game.


Fair enough, I forgot who I was asking. You did back off Marv pretty quickly though. Why?

I mean this is terrible and you pointed it out
On June 22 2012 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote:
On June 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote:
Marv, if you were to pick out the differences in your scum play and your town play, what would you point to?

I like this question a lot. I think there are a couple of possible tells. But tell me what you think first.

SCUM

On June 22 2012 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
The point of the self-evaluation was to see if you left anything out - obviously we can go and look for ourselves Marv, and we'll have our own opinion...but for you to turn the question around and ask for his answer first is incredibly scummy and immediately forces me to not trust you.


He still hasn't responded adequately. He is around note
On June 22 2012 08:17 marvellosity wrote:
VE, prplhz last played with Zentor in WoF.

Enough said really.


But is he isn't bothering to actually answer Mattchew's question. So yeah, why the let up?

Marv, I want that alimony!
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 21 2012 23:54 GMT
#133
On June 22 2012 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
Probey, you'll have to get in touch with my lawyer.

And I have at least partly answered the question, you're just not on the ball enough to have worked it out yet.

count how many times anyone said i said or even hinted at anything scummy in LV
see the pressure i was under at the start in magic at the start for wanting to shoot NT off the bat
compare to current situation


Why are you so cryptic? It's your job to prove you're town so you should want to provide information to us.

##Vote marvellosity

This time it's personal

@Mattchew, you have nothing to say
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 21 2012 23:58 GMT
#138
A large number of us played in the original C9++ where I got ass raped. I would suggest reading Bug's post game analysis again. It highlights how scum can use fake claims to their advantage. In short, I don't want anyone to claim unless they are certain they can prove they're town.

Masons can wait, unless they are up for lynch, they should be quiet for today. Everyone else keep your mouth shut. We play this game based on posting, claim when you absolutely have to and not before then. The less opportunity we give to WIFOM us the better.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 00:44 GMT
#160
On June 22 2012 09:38 slOosh wrote:
It's absolutely imperative that we resolve this miller claim issue. If we aren't all on the same page then scum can use the miller business to screw us over later. It has to be clear. Late-claiming millers will be policy lynched on the basis of it is purely anti-town. Scum can also "look VT and pro-town", so that is just foolish Zephirdd.


How about we just ignore Millers? I mean no-one has claimed, they are just a possibility and even then, for them to have any influence on the game, they have to be checked by a DT. Like I said earlier, beware any claim in this setup. So let's drop the issue. If we get screwed because someone plays scummy, gets checked red and turns out to be miller, well so be it.

Can you do something other than go on about Millers?

Where the fuck is Mattchew? He is the one that asked Marv the original question and has nothing to say about Marv's response or the push on Marv?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 00:46 GMT
#163
@Marv, do you think VE is scum?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 00:58 GMT
#179
On June 22 2012 09:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:46 Probulous wrote:
@Marv, do you think VE is scum?


I think he's pushing me dodgily. Haven't worked out if it's scummy or VE just being VE yet.


See here is what I don't understand.

  1. Mattchew asks you a simple question about what is different between your scum and your town play.
  2. You say it's a good question (it is actually) and then you don't answer.
  3. You get pushed to answer and you refer briefly to differences between the openings of two games (one town, one mafia). But you don't explicitly state what the difference are, or how they help us determine your alignment. To me it seems like an attempt to brush off the question and move onto other "more important" things.
  4. Then when other people start pushing you, you get all snarky which just makes me go
  5. You tell VE to go read the games but when he comes back with his response you say he is misrepresenting you but you don't think he is scum.


Why haven't you answered the original question? You admitted it's a good question, you claim VE is misrepresenting you but isn't scum so surely the best way to clear your name would be to outline exactly what you intended when you briefly referenced those games. I mean you seem to be saying that VE is mistaken but don't bother to actually take the time to thorughly correct the mistake. Why?

Because you don't want to answer the question. Townies want to provide data and clarity and you just wanted to move onto other things.

Has Matt just left the thread then? ><
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 01:02 GMT
#182
In this game, unless you underestimate me which I think you do not, you should be aware that I know making a sidestep to Mattchew's question could be viewed scummily, and I'd avoid it like the fucking plague if I were scum.


So by not answering his question you were proving you're town?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 01:17 GMT
#187
1) You proactively ask people to question you so you can prove your alignment.
On June 22 2012 07:16 marvellosity wrote:
you may quiz me and i will answer your questions.

2) Then you dilberately obfuscate and avoid answering the question
On June 22 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote:
Marv, if you were to pick out the differences in your scum play and your town play, what would you point to?

I like this question a lot. I think there are a couple of possible tells. But tell me what you think first.

On June 22 2012 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
lol, ok dear. If people could look for themselves, then maybe just one person in the whole of LV and the obsQT might have had a tingling suspicion, no? No.

3)You explain that this was not a mistake but instead part of an elaborate plan to do something no scum would do and so therefore prove you are town
On June 22 2012 10:05 marvellosity wrote:
"The similar thing, VE, is that I wasn't afraid of saying something that was scummy in that game. In this game, unless you underestimate me which I think you do not, you should be aware that I know making a sidestep to Mattchew's question could be viewed scummily, and I'd avoid it like the fucking plague if I were scum."


If you are town, you are saying that you deliberately avoided answering Mattchew to cause a shitstorm to prove you're town? You don't say it was a mistake, or a joke but rather a calculated plan. You give yourself too little credit Marv. I think you're scum who tried to joke off a difficult question and didn't expect people to latch onto it. Now you are backpedalling as fast as you can.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 01:22 GMT
#190
On June 22 2012 10:19 marvellosity wrote:
wrong way of looking at it Prob

if I were scum I'd have thought more before answering matt's question. even if this conversation has been quite interesting


So it was a mistake then
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 01:24 GMT
#191
On June 22 2012 10:00 slOosh wrote:
VE I think you are paranoid town right now. Yes, Marv could be scum. But I really don't see it right now and it's dominating the thread in a bad way. Zephirdd, the benefits of a "possible blue" is nothing compared to the possible headaches caused by miller claims. That's why we make any miller claim D1.


So who is scum then slOosh?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 02:00 GMT
#200
On June 22 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I'm not scum; I'm just busy playing LoL.

On June 22 2012 08:04 MrZentor wrote:
Everybody's so aggressive.

On June 22 2012 10:57 MrZentor wrote:
Anything I can do?


I'm starting to agree with prpl

How about you find us some mafia? Who is top of your suspicion list?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 02:05 GMT
#203
Anyone up for a slOosh lynch?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 22 2012 02:13 GMT
#206
Twiddle our thumbs then should we...

How about we write limericks instead

There once was a scum called Sloosh
Who prowled the town on the loose
He lurked all day
With nothing to say
Until we lynched him at dusk with a noose


Eh, Foolishness has more talent.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
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