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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 20 2012 09:50 GMT
#30
I have no idea how to play but it looks interesting

/in
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 20 2012 15:48 GMT
#37
On June 21 2012 00:35 blubbdavid wrote:
JieXian is the new bluelightz


what bluelightz?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 21 2012 04:13 GMT
#50
On June 21 2012 08:22 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 00:48 JieXian wrote:
On June 21 2012 00:35 blubbdavid wrote:
JieXian is the new bluelightz


what bluelightz?


Blubb is being mean. Bluelightz is a player who does his own thing and didn't bother to learn in his early mafia career. However he has since picked up his game and is doing much better now. He is also from Singapore so maybe that has something to do with what Blubb meant (similar region).

Mr JieXian, I would highly suggest reading the guides linked in the OP and contacting the coaches when you get your PM. There are some basic rules of mafia that really help in newbie games. Number one being, post. If you don't contribute, people will think you are scum. So post, even if you don't think you can add a lot just having a thread presence helps.

Good luck!


Or i might not contribute on purpose but I actually read the guides but I'm a confirmed townie who never dies because I'm actually a mafia

^^
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
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Last Edited: 2012-06-21 06:06:18
June 21 2012 06:03 GMT
#56
On June 21 2012 13:33 Probulous wrote:
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On June 21 2012 13:13 JieXian wrote:
On June 21 2012 08:22 Probulous wrote:
On June 21 2012 00:48 JieXian wrote:
On June 21 2012 00:35 blubbdavid wrote:
JieXian is the new bluelightz


what bluelightz?


Blubb is being mean. Bluelightz is a player who does his own thing and didn't bother to learn in his early mafia career. However he has since picked up his game and is doing much better now. He is also from Singapore so maybe that has something to do with what Blubb meant (similar region).

Mr JieXian, I would highly suggest reading the guides linked in the OP and contacting the coaches when you get your PM. There are some basic rules of mafia that really help in newbie games. Number one being, post. If you don't contribute, people will think you are scum. So post, even if you don't think you can add a lot just having a thread presence helps.

Good luck!


Or i might not contribute on purpose but I actually read the guides but I'm a confirmed townie who never dies because I'm actually a mafia

^^


Ok maybe Blubb was right. That sounds just like Bluelightz


_|_ ^.^ _|_

edit: testing if editing looks different here

edit: nop (thought it'll look like something I saw from another thread, just dreaming then)
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 21 2012 16:48 GMT
#65
so when does this start? when it's filled?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 23 2012 15:24 GMT
#100
erm actually since I'm at +8 gmt wouldn't there be a problem for me when it comes to voting? I'd have to vote a lot earlier than everyone else
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 23 2012 16:39 GMT
#102
ya 8 am but i'll still have to read all the posts and think right......
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 24 2012 03:29 GMT
#109
On June 24 2012 03:07 Esspen wrote:
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On June 24 2012 01:39 JieXian wrote:
ya 8 am but i'll still have to read all the posts and think right......

The answer is clear: do not sleep.
Sleep is overrated anyway...


I get sick instantly if I accumulate a few hours of sleep debt during the weekdays and I don't sleep it off during the weekends...... ya I know it's lame and I'd prefer not to be so weak.

On June 24 2012 11:50 BassInSpace wrote:
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On June 24 2012 00:24 JieXian wrote:
erm actually since I'm at +8 gmt wouldn't there be a problem for me when it comes to voting? I'd have to vote a lot earlier than everyone else


You're not the only one, I'm at +10 GMT.


No man if you get up at 8 you still have 2 hours before voting. To achieve the same thing I'd have to get up at 6 =(

I'd be glad if kita can move the date line to at least 10pm but either way I'll win ^^


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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 19:09:38
June 24 2012 14:37 GMT
#116
On June 24 2012 13:29 Keirathi wrote:
A friend of mine wrote a very very comprehensive mafia bot a few years ago, and we used it to play ~10,000 games back in the day.


ok then you used a bot? How..
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2012 06:37 GMT
#168
On June 25 2012 10:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
No more sheriff...well ain't that something special. What in the Sam Hill do we do now? Surely someone knows who else could be behind these treacherous murders.

I say we root these varmints out and string em right up in the middle of town, just like that VisceraEyes.
Now to do this we're gonna need a couple of...'Rules'.

I will say that I am a firm believer in the truth. Anyone caught in a lie deserves to die! Who's with me?


I'd assume based on the op that there are blues, or a vigilante at least. I'd want them to lie to protect themselves, so I disagree with that policy

Fos: release

you got everyone including me to spend time thinking about irrelevant nonsense instead of getting to the point, which in my opinion, is to simple protect blues.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2012 13:27 GMT
#173
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle.


shit I just noticed that this wasn't what i thought it was. This actually means that we have 2 days to vote right?


Release's game plan seems to be:

1) Create escape route. (just in case he got mafia)
So night. I will be less active in the following days (until night 3) for aforementioned reasons.

2) Create chaos
3) Claim it leads to more productive posting
4) Hide with aforementioned excuse

On June 25 2012 21:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 20:23 Esspen wrote:

But I believe we should try to identify and lynch blues first, confusing mafia and leaving them vulnerable...



Wat

You crazy?




Vivax and I found that confusing = We must be mafia lolololol
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2012 13:28 GMT
#174
Jokes aside, Esspen why the hell did you post that?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2012 18:20 GMT
#184
On June 25 2012 23:29 BassInSpace wrote:Also JieXian, I don't agree with your use of pre-game posts as part of your case against release (in regards to your "create escape route" point. I think analysis of posts should start when the game actually starts.


I admit my analysis was a long shot but holy shit does it seem to fit... It does assume that Release had both smart planning and was lucky enough to be a mafia.

However I totally disagree that the game actually starts during the game. Flash and iloveoov used interviews to win man.

On June 25 2012 23:52 Release wrote:
Take my "game plan" for what you will. I can't decide how you think.

If yourself and vivax found that confusing, doesn't that make him Mafia (as opposed to yourselves)? Townies are trying to avoid confusion while mafia try to cause confusion. If you say his reasoning is the reasoning is your reasoning, that's kind of a catch 22


Release that's why I kinda suspicious about him but it does assume that he is an absolute idiot if he's mafia hahahahaha

Also, someone please answer me.... I'll need to sleep/vote soon

Show nested quote +
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle.


shit I just noticed that this wasn't what i thought it was. This actually means that we have 2 real days to vote right?


Is it an explaination of 48-24 = 24 or 48+24?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2012 18:21 GMT
#185
On June 26 2012 02:43 Esspen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 22:28 JieXian wrote:
Jokes aside, Esspen why the hell did you post that?


To be quite honest, just to see reactions of people. And maybe catch some scummy behaviour.
Btw I must say that Release seems to be the scum as all reacted to my post it the form of "wtf? please explain" etc. wanting some explanation, yet Release is the only one actually attacking.

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On June 25 2012 23:52 Release wrote:
If yourself and vivax found that confusing, doesn't that make him Mafia (as opposed to yourselves)? Townies are trying to avoid confusion while mafia try to cause confusion. If you say his reasoning is the reasoning is your reasoning, that's kind of a catch 22



To be fair I think you deserved that attack for the textbook mafia confusion creating move
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2012 18:23 GMT
#186
editing this post just in case i get misinterpreted for leaving out a word

On June 26 2012 03:20 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 23:29 BassInSpace wrote:
Also JieXian, I don't agree with your use of pre-game posts as part of your case against release (in regards to your "create escape route" point. I think analysis of posts should start when the game actually starts.


I admit my analysis was a long shot but holy shit does it seem to fit... It does assume that Release had both smart planning and was lucky enough to be a mafia though.

However I totally disagree that the game actually starts during the game. Flash and iloveoov used interviews to win man.

Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2012 19:00 GMT
#188
Thanks, I was just about to place my vote.

Good night everyone.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 26 2012 05:06 GMT
#207
On June 26 2012 07:15 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 23:52 Release wrote:
If yourself and vivax found that confusing, doesn't that make him Mafia (as opposed to yourselves)? Townies are trying to avoid confusion while mafia try to cause confusion. If you say his reasoning is the reasoning is your reasoning, that's kind of a catch 22


This is the most confusing sentence in this thread, so maybe *YOU'RE* the mafia.

In all seriousness though, i feel like you are putting yourself in the limelight a bit too much on day1 for oyut o be mafia, unless you're just an idiot, which I assume isn't the case.

As far as the whole "lynching the blues" comment by Esspen, really boggling. I can't even see how this would create good discussion; 1) you're serious, in which case WORST MAFIA EVER or 2) you're making a joke, people call you out, you say you're joking, people still suspect your motives but move on. I dont feel like anything that has come out of that statement has been useful towards finding whoever the mafia is, so that just makes it more suspicious/boggling.

Now: lynch the lurkers. I've played around tis strategy many many times, and while it doesn't always work, it does have some key benefits: 1) a lot of mafia (especially inexperienced ones) are going to try to keep a low profile for a long as they can and 2) people who arent giving input, well, aren't giving input or opinions for others to base anything on, therefor aren't helping town to win. The chance of mafia nightkilling lurkers is exceptionally low, as well, because 1) thats one more person to cast suspicion on, and 2) the lurker isnt going to casting any suspicion on them.

So thats my 2cents. Lynch All Lurkers is probably our best plan of action.



While lynching lurkers to make mafia come out is a good idea wouldn't it be a better idea to target scummy behaviour since we have so many examples? And leave the lurkers policy for when there's no better choice?

i.e. scum>lurkers>liars

Actually assuming both Esspen and Release are smart won't totally rule them out because they are causing commotion and confusion while being safe from lynching (just like how I've gave Esspen the benefit of the doubt earlier) by:

- Claiming to attempt to draw out mafia.
- Assuming people would assume that they are not complete idiots.
- Having the same play style (according to Vivax ) (( holy shit if Release turns out to be mafia that'll mean something but there's nothing concrete on vivax for now imo ))

I had to skim past Hopeless and Release's argument on policy because I just couldn't read it and they could be staging it for all I know (again, assuming they are smart). **wild assumption no. 2**

Esspen panics and targets Release for a reasoning that doesn't make sense for his response, which makes him look weak.

Hopeless targets BioSC now but *coincidnetally* BioSC targeted Hopeless earlier.... (So they don't interest me .. yet.)

I feel really bad targeing lurkers without having any info on them because holy shit I'm spoilt for scummy choices.

Assuming all are smart, Esspen's wasn't really effective in protecting himself or creating commotion, though he posts less and he and Release seem to be on the opposite side. (just maybe)

They may be lynching lurkers now since that would mean that they will be safe. **wild guess when it comes to hopeless**

Voting for Release since I wanted to vote for him earlier for creating so much bullshit.

tldr: He's completely safe if we assume he's stupid. What if we assume he's smart ?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 26 2012 05:11 GMT
#208
btw wild assumptions aren't a part of my decision making at all
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 26 2012 05:13 GMT
#209
Oh ya since Esspen's wasn't really effective in protecting himself or creating commotion of course, we also have the possibility that he isn't so smart.

So to clarify: voting for release for causing commotion for no reason. Even if he's townie we can be much more focused with people like Vivax and Keraithi and dna.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 26 2012 06:18 GMT
#212
On June 26 2012 15:06 BassInSpace wrote:
Hopeless1der, you say that policy lynching should be our last resort, but then you post this?

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Okay then...which lurker are we lynching? Im seeing Aegon, NrGmonk and BioSC as our prime candidates.


You have a FOS on esspen, who you already said you find suspicious for trying to bring attention back to release, but then you ask which of our "prime candidates" out of those 3 we should lynch? If policy lynching really is the last resort, should you not be pressuring esspen more, or waiting closer to the voting deadline when there has been more activity before you start wanting to lynch lurkers (by my count there are still 22 hours until the deadline)? That is the whole point of a last resort. I really don't like how much attention you were putting on voting for lurkers before BiosC responded to you. I'm not sure if you'll get to see this and respond any time soon because of time zones, but I will hold off putting my vote on you until I go to bed just in case you manage to post before then.

As for esspen, I really don't know. That really is just way too obvious a move for mafia to make as others have said, but I am getting a stronger read from hopeless1der.


Wow you're right, I totally missed it. I was not really interested in hopeless so I didn't read too much into his posts. Reconsidering my vote on Release but I still don't like how Release looks like for now.
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