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Can't say that helped o.O | ||
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On May 27 2012 03:25 GreYMisT wrote: If an assassin is in this game and you are it, it will be very clear. Just understand that I would not put it in if it were so easy. Alright, seems fair enough then. It just seemed like a "Win after the first night" sort of thing at first sight. | ||
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Let's all try and chill, and play nice together, because arguing is not finding scum. Also, in a game this big, can we try to keep posting concise and simple, so the pages don't get into their thousands. I'm currently happy with an ET mayor. From what I know of him, he may not be the best townie in TL, but he's consistent and seems to do a good job of staying cool and hunting scum. I'm on the "Pardoner is bad" boat too, but I'm not sure the best way to deal with it at the moment, but I'm open to ideas. Not starting looking for scum yet, but as a start. @Blazinghand: Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? @ET: Who would you vote for Mayor if not yourself? @Mattchew: Do you think the arguments going on are indicative of people being scum, or is it a case of frustrated egos? | ||
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Because that's my opinion of the game so far. It seems like everyone is ready to jump on, without really looking at rest of the game. | ||
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SnB - He's seemed "Fishy" this game so far, and I would be happy to FoS him, however, I don't think there is enough there to say it is a good lynch. I'd like to see him post more thoughts though. Thoughts on Mayor: If possible, would the best mayor be the one that chooses the day1 lynch based off of a vote from town? Seems like this would be the most pro-town play? Pardoner: Whoever agree's not to use the power ever seems to be the best bet. Yes, in some select scenario's it might be good to use it, but that seems to just be giving an excuse to any mafia player that could convince people that make him pardoner to use the power. Now some of my reads: Toad - Seems to be very town provided he can prove it using his "mason" powers. If not, we can lynch him tomorrow. BE - Leaning on town. His arguments earlier were annoying, but nothing that led me to think he's scum. Hyaah - ???? Lurker, could well be scum, want to hear what he has to say about the game so far. If I were to kill someone now: Sinesis - Been said before, but he's tunnelling very hard and doesn't seem willing to add anything to conversation except kill Grush. Who are your other scumreads? Who are you voting for as mayor and why? I'd also like to note - I'm pretty lurky Day1 atm, I'm pretty busy, however, I'll have finished my last exam come midway through day2, and will become a lot more active then. | ||
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1) Cause I'm VT 2) BH to a tired zealos. | ||
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On May 29 2012 19:06 supersoft wrote: does anyone disagree that zealos needs to be vigged? I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that? | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:17 Blazinghand wrote: Good point! It's actually literally impossible for a mafia player to do that, and by saying "I was busy for 48 hours" you're doing something that only a town player could do! That really DOES excuse your D1 play :D Furthermore, your VT claim TOTALLY makes sense, was 100% useful to town, and definitely won't help scum target the blues.  As a final note, when people make weird claims like that, post nothing for 48 hours, then make non-reasons to defend themselves not posting any reads or pressure D1, that's unbelievably helpful, and really is how all TL townies should play. You are not suspicious at all.  Maybe I should just stick to making a load of sarcastic, augmentative, or just pointless posts to fill up my filter  | ||
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I am a townie, because of this, I am posting under the assumption that everyone knows I'm town. Hence why, if I defend someone, its because I think they deserve to be defended. If I post accusations, it will be because I think they are scummy. I'm sorry I haven't posted a great deal yet, like I said, my exam is tomorrow, and so I'll be able to post more then. | ||
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On May 31 2012 05:18 marvellosity wrote: I feel a lot more confident in a Zealos lynch. I read over like 4 of his previous games when I was looking at him in Magic and I think I have a handle on him. After I pointed it out how he started town/scum games in mafia, he's come in here trying really hard to make his first post look like 'townie' Zealos. Too hard. Then he hasn't followed it up with any substance. Only more weird and scummy posts. Town Zealos would be dishing out his reads, but he's cowering in fear hoping the topic of conversation would move on from him. I would consolidate on Gambit. His two posts are a bundle of nothingness disguised as somethingness. It's also possible that wbg was hit because he was suspicious of Gambit, but this doesn't have to be the case - could have just been hitting a vet. Anyway: ##Vote: Zealos You say I'd be dishing out my reads, and yet the only other large mafia game I've played in I was scum. You have no point of comparison. If I'm honest, I'm really struggling to keep up with this thread at all, there's so much more to read than in the mini games :S | ||
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On May 31 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote: The most notable point of comparison is Game of Thrones. That was a much smaller game IIRC (at least I thought) From what I gather, cases against me consist of lurkyness and general uselessness, and while these points have been true so far this game, it doesn't stop me being town, albeit a bad one. | ||
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Feeling very useless atm. | ||
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On May 31 2012 21:44 marvellosity wrote: Ok, just read a bunch of pages. Two things I need to re-read to get a proper handle are MZ's case on VE part 2, and VE's case on kita. One thing I'd written down before I came to VE's case is the absolutely odd occurrence of people vaguely, kinda, sort of being suspicious of kita. wbg's 'he kinda feels scummy' sentiment, VE's *earlier* non-case followed by OMGUS vote and unvote, Toad's 'scum coz of meta I won't elaborate on' and Probulous' case that wasn't quite a case. What's going on here? My read on VE is all over the place. I was leaning town, now I'm not so sure. I agreed heavily with wbg's post here: + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2012 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote: ok VE just did two incredibly scummy things. First of all supersoft pointed out something very valid: VE was all for pushing zealos but not actually putting his vote where his mouth was. Five minutes after supersoft posts this, VE makes a post unvoting gambit and voting Zealos. That's scummy thing #1. Scummy thing #2 is when some random guy comes in the thread and calls Hyaach scummy. VE immediately lets go of his Zealos vote and then votes Hyaach. It's like he has no sense of consolidation and he's just going with the flavor of the moment. This is what he did in LI where I came in the thread and said "hey hassybaby is scummy" and then VE voted hassy after I voted him, and kept saying how he was willing to kill him but changed his vote later anyway. The only problem is that in recent games VE has been willing to put together a bunch of names as scum all at once and he hasn't been afraid of calling them all out regardless of how strong the actual cases are (though he himself feels strongly about them, I suppose) usually though he tunnels at least one of the players. Right now I'm not feeling like VE has any sort of real conviction, and at the very least town VE has balls. All this rings true. I just don't get the flip-flopping. If townie VE was confident enough to shoot at Zealos night 1, why is it so hard to get him to keep to a vote on him today? Unfortunately, my thoughts very much sheep wbg's: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Probulous and anyone who cares to read - please take a look over my filter for my thoughts regarding Zealos. Other people made what cases there were to be made based on Zealos' posts, and I have tried to explain why I think I have a meta handle on him and why he's scum. There's one post I refer to early on in my filter about Zealos that VE made himself, but didn't directly quote, so here it is, as I thought it was a very strong point: + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2012 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Posts like this really irk (pun intended ^^) me. First of all, it's clear by SS's post that he's suspicious of Zealos - that is to say, that he thinks he's scum. Yet Zealos' response is "But I'm townie, why do you want to kill a townie?" The obvious answer is that he doesn't - if you ask anyone in this game, literally anyone, whether they want to kill a townie, scum and town alike are going to say "of course not what a stupid question." No one WANTS to kill a townie...but the idea that Zealos is attempting to plant here is that supersoft wants to kill a townie. It's a manipulation move. Don't let it work. I feel way more confident in Zealos than I do in my read on VE, who I very rarely get an accurate read on. Right, back to read the major cases. Whats my meta exactly Marvel. I'm pretty sure in Magic mafia you meta'd me as scum due to my aggression, now you're meta-ing me as scum for... lurking? | ||
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