I hope this doesn't end in Ace being shot again.

We don't know how many (or even if) we have a vigilante, scum who want to avoid lynch will have like a ~40% chance each day of avoiding the lynch, and they don't even need their scumbuddies' help for this! If we go through with the pardon plan for days then they will even get 100% chance of avoiding lynch and we will need vigilantes to take care of them so potential vigilantes should not use their shot to enforce plans.

I imagine that there are roles more related to the central game mechanic, maybe M/M inverters or people who can throw other people from one pool to the other, maybe some hidden votes for round B.

I thought about how the vote trading panned out in Hammer Mini Mafia (for those who haven't read, everybody had 5 votes and we had to give some away to other people every night). In that game people might not give votes to the most townie player just because "he would already get a bunch" and then he would end up with none. Also, I think charismatic people might get relatively many votes compared to how "townie" they really appear but we still don't want people like me to die just because no one thought to trade me (goes for other people too).

I'm unsure about what to think about big round B plans, I'm always worried about what powers scum may have and I think that just relying on people to do their best should suffice (at least in this game with this infinitely stacked player list). What I'm going to do is that I'm going to split my votes up and throw a bunch of them into people I think other people are likely to vote for, and throw some of them into people I think other people are more unlikely to vote for. If everybody else does this then we're not going to have any problems (and we're going to have a lot of information this way) but if only I do it then there's not really much harm in that anyway.

I think it was gonzaw/syllogism who proposed that round B should be an unofficial vote and then we try to kill the "winner" of that vote, but I don't know about that. This is a game about finding townies and if we all agree that someone is scum then we're not going to need a huge plan for getting him lynched, people are just not going to vote for him or they're going to get into trouble. I have never seen an unofficial voting system in action either, at least not one that worked.

It seems that there is already a big plan in place for round A and it's kinda alright with me, syllogism and Palmar have good reads on each other so I'm going to go along with whatever they feel like for now.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 11:07 GMT

#116

On April 30 2012 14:32 Foolishness wrote:
We want as few people as possible in the majority. It needs to be as close to even as possible. If we have 10 or 11 people in the majority we can control the lynch. This is because we have more votes than there are people up for lynch.

I don't understand this.

10/8 split, three scum in each. Who is "we", how does this entity have more votes than there are people up for lynch, and how does this benefit us?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 11:22 GMT

#117

Also: How I plan to be active in PMs this game.

If I end up in majority I plan on pleading my innocence to a bunch of people in PMs. Other than that I'm probably going to play the most of this game in the thread.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 19:59 GMT

#203

I was just reading up on this game and then I thought to myself "Man, I wish I was observing this game." and then I was like "Hey, I am observing this game!" ... dunno I caught and bug and I'm a little ill these days.

I'm not entirely sure what to think of anything yet, I like the 72 hour day proposal 'cause this is going fast.

@wherebugsgo What do you mean "the groups with the power to influence who get into the minority are scum, not town." ?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 20:13 GMT

#206

If there's no plan then it's probably going to be 2-4 scum in the majority. If there is a vigilante of sort or other similar role then we can use that to kill of bad guys in the minority.

Since it looks like people don't like round A plans then how about round B plans? I think it was Meapak_Ziphh who said "X votes X+1" and then the minority votes for the townier people. Bad thing is that we don't get majority to vote on anything so no information, and if we just flip coins for round A then people never get to put their money where their mouth is. I'm still for the Palmogisfield-plan (wazzup) where those three just decide whatever and put 6-7 townies in the minority. If we're dissatisfied with their picks then we can just replace some of them tomorrow. Just because we ditched the claim idea doesn't mean we have to ditch everything that any of those said.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 22:56 GMT

#279

I'm very unsure about what's going on and why we're not going with the Palmogisfield-plan. Most of this has just been people not wanting to cooperate and I'm very unsure why. I'm pretty sure we could find a couple people that most everybody wouldn't vote for day1 and it only makes sense to throw them into the minority for more information (and hopefully better odds) in round B.

Ace is doing his usual and very useless "you can't have any reads on day1" thing. Then he's like "I'm just going to be an asshole no matter what you do" which is equally useless. All Ace can do day1 is yell at other people for having bad reads.

I kinda like Mr. Wiggles but I don't exactly know why. I also like Foolishness and Palmogisfield. I don't have any scum reads.

I feel like you're all speaking in russian. I'm looking forward to round B because then I'll have five votes like the rest of you that I can use however I want.

Dunno.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 22:58 GMT

#283

Well, at least we'll have like 2-4 scum in the majority and that's kind of good. It just limits who we can focus on and maybe that's good, these people will be put under a lot of scrutiny and town wont have to deal with people having reads all over the place. Maybe that's not going to be a problem in this game anyway.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 23:00 GMT

#285

On May 01 2012 07:57 Ace wrote:

Show nested quote +

Deal with it.

I'm trying! I'm going to PM you tomorrow and ask for your opinion on somebody and then you're going to be like "l0L" and then I'm going to ask "well then who?" and then you're going to be like "we're all townies. host stole igrok's troll setup" and I'll be left discombobulated.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 23:01 GMT

#287

Ace likes the hypothetical "what if everybody is an asshole?", well then this game is lost already now isn't it?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 23:06 GMT

#291

I'm feeling like it was a really bad thing that we didn't just have Palmogisfield pick out 6-7 townies and then everybody else should go majority. Imagine if we did this and every townie complied, imagine that. Pretty good. People are all "but there's going to be someone who doesn't do it and then the world will implode and we will instantly lose to scum because of a lot of doomsayery i'm going make up on the spot" and I have no idea where they're coming from.

I'd volunteer to go to the majority 'cause I feel useless anyway. I'm probably going to flip coins until day[9] 'cause you can't have reads before then anyway.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 23:07 GMT

#293

On May 01 2012 08:05 Cephiro wrote:

Show nested quote +

Please don't tell me you're saying you don't know how to make reads on assholes? :p

I don't but that was not what I meant.

If everybody just do something semi-random all game long then we're not going to win because we can't organize anything while scum will be able to perfectly organize themselves. If people stopped doing semi-random stuff and for the most did what appeared to be the most townie thing then we'd be running with the Palmogisfield plan right now.

Meh, it's useless since round B is coming up soon.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 23:08 GMT

#294

I don't know who is lamer, the DotA2 king of the WoW king ...

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2012 23:20 GMT

#304

On May 01 2012 08:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting no to get into the minority.

FYI.

See how fucking stupid this plan is?

^^

Try "I'm voting yes to follow the plan" and then "See how fucking awesome this plan is?"

On May 01 2012 08:16 Ace wrote:
K so the plan just needs a majority of Town to give up their individual brilliance, sheep a Yes/No vote and form a new pool of suspects: Except the method of creating this pool should be determined by 1 player.

Sounds awesome. Where do I sign up?

Who said anything about it being determined by 1 player? It's always been Palmar, syllogism and Radfield and I doubt anybody would complain if you wanted Foolishness in there instead or whoever really.

What does "give up their individual brilliance" even mean?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 01 2012 19:50 GMT

#458

hey guys if i need to vote according to some plan then you need to tell me i've been otherwise occupied for the entire day and i don't have the energy to read up on plans. this will of course change soon but if i'm part of some plan then you need to pm me or i will throw my votes around at people i think are town.

please pm me soon because i think i'm about to pass out.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 01 2012 19:51 GMT

#459

okay meapak is lynching me, well i don't really have anything i can do about that right now. i think i'm the player who has clearly played the worst so far (and i'm not even up to date on the thread) so that should kinda give you an idea about my alignment. there's really nothing else.