EPTSurprisingly Normal Mini Mafia XI
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The_Zen_Man
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The_Zen_Man
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This is my first game of maifa, but i have been following other games a bit. I also think that the "no lynch" option could prove useful early in the game to avoid misslynch. The other game i was following misslynched on the first day simply because they didn't have enough information. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
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WhySoMuch: I understand that my first post would seem suspicous, but i think u misunderstood me. I simply don't want a lynch just for the sake of lynch. If we have information, or if we are sure we would gain some information by lynching then we should do it. But if we just lynch someone because we don't have anyone else, that would probably result in a townie dead. Early in the game that kind of information might not be available, that is why i said nolynch could be useful early. Also, i understand that u voted for me to pressure me to respond, but if you still choose to keep voting on me you should give me a better explination. I can't post for a few hours, but when i get home i will post some more including my thouhts on some other people. | ||
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If u have further concern regarding me, please express them so that i can answer them. | ||
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One other thing i find strange is how far your suspicions against me went after only 1 post, which was confirmed to be my first. Direclty after you were stated as a lurker you seemed to turn the attention against me, and almost immediatly voted for me. Was my first post really that suspicous? Please explain the things stated above. | ||
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On April 27 2012 22:20 Lazermonkey wrote: Exactly what information would be given by a no-lynch? I don't really get this. And also, why would scum ever oppose to no-lynch? Sure they might not get a misslynch but on the other hand no information will be given. Misslynches are beneficial for scum but so are no-lynches. Therefore trying to see a connection between who wanted to lynch/no-lynch will not really give us any information at all. So in the end most cases on day 2 would be based upon mass WIFOM. I don't really like no-lynching at all. The opinion could be usefull in case we are completely clueless at the time of the vote, but then we are probebly royally screwed anyways. I don't have alot of time atm. Will post something longer in the evening. If we vote for a nolynch there will still be people, like yourself, that would oppose that and vote for a person instead. We can use that information to decide everyone standings. The time before deadline will also give us information, as we can observe how people act then. Also, concerning the second quote, you should read my post. I didn't say that scum would be opposed to a nolynch, simply that they would rather push for a lynch on a innocent townie than miss that chance to kill. | ||
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WhySoMuch: I still find it strange that you were so aggresive towards me early in the game after i had only posted one post. I also find it strange that you barely mentioned Veriat who's first post was very similliar to mine. Said this before, but can you please explain you're actions here? Also, why didn't you aske yomi for further explination on his vote on you? Instead you voted on me and had some few posts where you conversed with yomi. This also seemed strange to me. Please explain. Yomi: Not 100% sure on you, but you seem to aggressive for being mafia. Maybe you should have given a better explanation than the one you gave when you voted. LazerMonkey: You seem to be very busy irl, but you could try to contribute a little. So far, i don't think you have contributed much at all. AcesAnoka: You seem suspicous to me. You're first comment was rather strange, but i know you shoulnd't judge someone too much based on what they first wrote. I think it was a good thing you put that pressure vote on yomi, after all it did give a response from him. Veriat: I find it strange that you posted a very similliar post just after mine. I do however like your post where you explain how we would gain information if nolynch. Try to contribute more. O.Golden_ne: I like your playing style. You encourage everyone to stay calm when they seem emotional and explain themselves when they seem suspicous. Pure-SC2: You have very good analytical posts, and you are one of the players that contribute the most. Keep it up! nreekay324 : Im not sure if you are lurking or just not able to post, but you seem really suspicious at the moment. Please explain yourself, and also your vote. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
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Now, concerning your vote, i think the rest of the players would like to have a better explanation than the one you just gave. Bandwagoning on someone seems very suspicious on me, and it seems like scum-play. And as soon as people start finding you suspicious, like yomi, and votes for you, instead of explaining yourself properly you start a case against them. You seem to prefer when someone else is getting voted for no reason at all, but when you are voted for with a good reason you start a case against them. | ||
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The reason for my defensive stance is beacuse i've had to explain some suspicions on me, not really any more than that. If you read my filter, you would know that. It seems like you are trying to find suspicious behavior on me, and you are not afraid on going far in your accusations. You did manage to inflate a few comments on AcesAnoka to me being his "scumbro" .Is it because on of your scum-buddies got some heat and you are trying to direct eveyones attention elsewhere? nreekay324 for example has been getting some heat lately. Atm im not sure about you, you haven't posted enough for me to be sure of you. | ||
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You say that the votes on whysomuch was not serious and that there wasn't a possibility of a bandwagoning, but you also say that you don't know about nreekay324 yet? That means there was a possibilty of it, as we are still unsure of nreekay324 position. In your post you say that mine was confusing, yet you post one that is contraticting and strange in response? The reason i seem defensive is because i have to explain myself whenever someone like you raises strong suspicions against me. | ||
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##vote: Veriat Also Veriat, as Pure-SC2 said, please tell me what about me is "fishy". Whysomuch, could you give me a explanation to your vote? | ||
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##Vote: Veriat | ||
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On April 26 2012 22:55 Veriat wrote: Hello Everybody! I love the theme and i'm very excited to get this show on the road! Like many here this is my first game so i'm looking forward to a good time with you fine lads (and lasses) As Pure-SC2 said, i share his opinion on the "no lynch" vote since this is a game full of newbies like myself, and there isn't all that information up in the air the first day, which we can use to base good lynches on. With that said, Game on and let's get the discussion going!  Veriat posted this about 5 minutes after my post, and it was also very similliar to mine. This seemed like he was bandwagoning on this idea, maybe choosing the idea which seemed at time like many people supported? On April 26 2012 23:55 Veriat wrote: You make a good point Golden, lynching luckers would be a good alternative. We might also want to keep an eye out for people who make contentless posts, and as you said act "scummy" Not long after that, when O.Golden_ne voiced his opinions on the matter, he changed his opinion rather quick, maybe not wanting to take a real stand in the matter, as this would put him in the spotlight. On April 27 2012 03:10 Veriat wrote: I noticed the same yomi, they are currently lurking. And back to the "lynch, no lynch" topic, yomi you make a good point is your previous 2 post. we can't just lynch for the sake of lynching, it needs to benefit the town. And just lynching a townie and not learning anything is just a waste. so personally i'd say lynch if suspicion be, and if not? i see no point in random lynching. His desire to be neutral is developed, as he change his opinion again. First he was for lynching lurkers, but now he only wants to lynch those who seem suspicious. On April 28 2012 18:03 Veriat wrote: Ok i know i have the lowest post count, but be mindfull that this is my first forum mafia game. And the reasoning behind my "only agreeing and disagreeing" posts, is because many of my thoughts have already been posted, so posting it again would just be repition, which most of the posts in the earlier pages pretty much were. And each time i go to check on the game, it has expand with a few pages, so there's been a lot of information to go through. So (watch out another agreement!) i would agree that i indeed do look very scummy atm. But this was just an explanation on my behavior, i'll have my analysis posted soonish. In this post he states his reason for his "agreeing and disagreeing" posts, with the explanation that all of the ideas had already been posted. Surely, he must have something to add, he could atleast voice his opinions on some other players. On April 28 2012 18:26 Veriat wrote: Ok here are my thoughts on who are the scum: The_Zen_Man nreekay324 Jailbreaker The_Zen_Man You're stance on the "lynch no lynch" discussion has left me a little puzzled, and your overall playstyle seem fishy to me, so you're getting my vote. nreekay324 All your posts just seem off and scummy. Many of them seem rushed or flawed, and you basically just jumped the bandwagon with your early vote on Why_So_Much. On a side note i did find Why_So_Much's playstyle kind of off, but i don't think he's scum, because then why would you vote for him? Jailbreaker You've my number 3 due to consistent flaws in your previous posts. This post, and his vote is still puzzling to me. "Your overall playstyle seem fishy to me" is not a good explanation, and if you want to take a opinion you should give a good reason. Your vote on me was almost as puzzling as whysomuch, who haven't answered to why he voted for me. If you want to prove that you are townie you should vote with a good argument. Also your other "candidates" do not have any better explanations. @WhySoMuch: I said this before, but i will say it again, please explain your vote. | ||
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On April 27 2012 13:33 O.Golden_ne wrote:[/B @the_zen_man - please rebut to why_so_much not with a vote but with a clear explanation of your innocence and your views on the people voting for whysomuch. Golden Also, concerning my nolynch view, i have answered this before, but i can do it again. We can still gain information besides lynching, and i simply didn't want to have a mislynch, which is common early in the game. Also, mafia tend to be for lynch, as they can easily sneak by without being noticed. Now, i want to adress the matter of my vote. I didn't panic, i really saw that move as scummy. You were lurking for quite a while and then suddenly you come back and vote for me without much of an explanation? That was a strange move. Something i should have included in my post before is the Veriat and WhySoMuch connection. Whysomuch was really aggressive towards me after i had olnly posted once, but directly below me was a very similliar post that he barely mentioned. [/QUOTE] I find this post very wolfy, more so than Varient or however you spell his name who said the same thing essentially, because you aren't thinking deeper. [/QUOTE] Is my first post supposed to be a deep analytical post? Explain to me also what you mean by "deeper", because i don't see the "deepness of Veriat's first post(below) [B]On April 26 2012 22:55 Veriat wrote: Hello Everybody! I love the theme and i'm very excited to get this show on the road! Like many here this is my first game so i'm looking forward to a good time with you fine lads (and lasses) As Pure-SC2 said, i share his opinion on the "no lynch" vote since this is a game full of newbies like myself, and there isn't all that information up in the air the first day, which we can use to base good lynches on. With that said, Game on and let's get the discussion going! Then, after Whysomuch says that he will lay off on me, he votes on me without any explanation, and he has not posted since that. Also, not long after Whysomuch vote without any explanation, veriat votes for me with not much of an explanation either. I am still keeping my vote on you. | ||
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