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The thing that I see about newbie games is that sometimes it is harder for players to get a read on someone else, because they might really not have a clue what their goal is when they post. One of the first examples that I notice immediately already in this thread is that Pure-SC2 posts about the no-lynch availability, but then the following two posts occur On April 26 2012 22:51 The_Zen_Man wrote: Hey guys! This is my first game of maifa, but i have been following other games a bit. I also think that the "no lynch" option could prove useful early in the game to avoid misslynch. The other game i was following misslynched on the first day simply because they didn't have enough information. On April 26 2012 22:55 Veriat wrote: Hello Everybody! I love the theme and i'm very excited to get this show on the road! Like many here this is my first game so i'm looking forward to a good time with you fine lads (and lasses) As Pure-SC2 said, i share his opinion on the "no lynch" vote since this is a game full of newbies like myself, and there isn't all that information up in the air the first day, which we can use to base good lynches on. With that said, Game on and let's get the discussion going!  Even though this is my first forum game, I have read up as well as played the in-person variant and these both look suspicious to me, as they're bandwagoning on something that won't (instantly) kill them the first day. However, I can't deduce much from their first real post because it's a newb game, as well as the fact that the accounts have no history to go through to determine behavioral patterns. Plus, would the mafia post back-to-back almost identical posts? Doubtful. Maybe I'm overthinking this. Perhaps waiting for some more people to post will provide more concrete information. | ||
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Let me start with AcesAnoka. This is his first post: On April 27 2012 00:31 AcesAnoka wrote: Hello everyone! This is my first game of mafia but I already love it! The theme is amazing too, we're on a spaceship! On a more serious note, I think we've established that Day 1 should be a No-lynch, we should wait and see how the first night develops. HOWEVER, if its blatantly obvious that there IS one trying to hide something, not saying anything, things could change around. Thoughts? Right off the bat, he takes a middle-of-the-ground position. He says that we've 'established' that day 1 should be no-lynch, then immediately counters his own point by saying "things could change around." This allows him to avoid aligning with any particular viewpoint, as seen by his response to Pure-SC2 here: + Show Spoiler + On April 27 2012 23:51 AcesAnoka wrote: A lot has happened when I wasn't here I see. I'll add my analysis now. first of all: I agree that that statement was a bit silly(I could've said it was the preferred method by some including me at that time) But have you read the sentence after that? In that sentence I say that if it's blatantly obvious somoene is trying to hide something, is too agressive,... we should have a day 1 Lynch. Keep in mind also that at that point in time there wasn't many developments in this thread, which has now changed.(as did my opinion on not lynching) Also my post on not rushing to vote was because at that point WhySoMuch hadn't posted and some people were already a bit antsy ------------------------------------------------------------ On to the part which is actually interesting, my analysis on what has happened the past day or so: First of all we see yomi voting on WhySoMuch with the reasoning: werewolves are gay (Read: no reason at all) He has yet to even explain WHY he voted on WhySoMuch, but when people actually vote on him (Jailbreaker) he immediately posts yet another one of his oneliners which add nothing to the discussion at all. Like WhySoMuch said nreekay's vote is a little bit odd too, he votes on WhySoMuch for the same reason as yomi(none). Taking a look at his post history he also hasn't contributed a lot, but now he ALSO votes for whysomuch for no apparent reason at all. Isn't that the same thing we've seen with Yomi? For now, until Yomi can properly explain his actions: ##Vote: yomi In the sentence I underlined, he does two things: first, the attempt to avoid any sort of suspicion by aligning himself to the argument that seems safest, aka "there should be a lynch." His first post allows him to be sly and do this - if the conversation had steered toward no-lynch being a safe argument, he could have just as easily claimed he said there should be no lynch, and no one else has called him on it yet. Secondly, he contradicts his previous quote. " if its blatantly obvious that there IS one trying to hide something, not saying anything, things could change around." VS. " if it's blatantly obvious somoene is trying to hide something, is too agressive" Notice the wording. The first sentence, he says if someone is INACTIVE they look suspicious. In the second, he says if they're TOO active/aggressive they look suspicious. Either this is bad town play, or extremely suspicious as he is changing his wording to avoid any suspicion. I think pointing the finger at yomi is fruitless as he hasn't said enough to get in trouble. It looks kind of fishy but if you look at his previous game you can just see his playstyle as being extremely similar to this, and he flipped town. I would post more analysis but I'm on a work break so I have to get back to it! | ||
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[QUOTE]On April 28 2012 01:25 AcesAnoka wrote: [QUOTE] Also about being suspicious, doesn't it both hold true? If you're too agressive you are suspicious, if you're too passive (not saying a word,...) you're also suspicious. Whats suspicious about me if I say that x is bad in one post and y is bad in another? They both are bad, are they not? I explained that my vote for yomi was to get a response out of him as to why exactly he voted for WhySoMuch, there's still a lot of time and my vote is CERTAINLY not yet decided. [/QUOTE] Again, you leave no breathing room for what can be classified by your ruleset as "normal" town play. What exactly is too much or too little? It's suspicious because you try too hard to cover all YOUR bases and play defensively, instead of active investigation into who could be mafia. Generic posts like the ones you make provide nothing. You wanted reasoning out of Yomi, and he already gave it. [QUOTE]On April 27 2012 10:33 yomi wrote: vote## whysomuch werewolves are gay[/QUOTE] It's bad 'reasoning,' rather nonexistent; however look at mafia X and you can see he just randomly votes for someone to incite reaction/discussion. Not defending him, as he could be mafia but I don't think anyone is going to get much out of him in day 1. Rather I would take a look at WhySoMuch's reaction to rule him as either suspicious/not, which I haven't had enough time to go through the entire chain of posts analytically yet. | ||
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Before I pass out for the night. If I don't post much tomorrow it's because of a combination of Dota 2 tournament and Guild Wars 2 beta. | ||
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##Unvote AcesAnoka ##Vote Veriat I hope that he turns up red, but if not that means we've at least eliminated bad town play instead of someone more useful to the conversation. | ||
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Sorry, I posted in a rush. | ||
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