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Hello.
I'm going to say that trying to get reads through playing catch-up makes a hard job even harder.
I'll go ahead and follow Dr3am's advice and use his format.
a) Top 2 Scumreads
1) imallinson - He votes yomi and finger's Zealos but later builds an entire case on Draco, his former #3, seemingly dropping his suspicions on Zealos altogether. I'm reading initial heat then a misdirect. I didn't want to bring up his lack of posting to avoid using lurking as my main argument, but there's not much else to go on here. Also, at this point I think that his lack of posts are a fairly valid point of suspicion.
2) Zealos - many one-liners, with posts like "He's right, no lynch = really bad.". Not contributing overly much. His reason for being suspicious of draco was "Mainly due to the number of people bringing him up", which smacks of bandwagoning in my mind. He's been active lately and looking to contribute though so I give imallinson my top scumread.
b) Townreads
ArcticFox - He's vigilant but he's not overly aggressive. An overly aggressive play tells me someone is trying to force people to believe he's a Townie. Dr3am's recent post is too aggressive for me to give him top billing, because it seems like he's trying to build dirt on other people before eyes go looking for someone else. I'm not saying I'm giving him a scumread, but that's why he's not my top townie.
c) What is scummy?
As I said earlier, overly aggressive play. A smart player knows we're new, knows we've read the basic strategies and advice. It's only natural that they're going to not want to fit into those roles that general advice dictates they are.
In general, inconsistencies with posts and accusations/arguments that come out of nowhere are what would flag me. A person who begins to take issue with points not relating to the game at hand is either getting too upset or misdirecting on purpose. The later is poor play and the latter is scummy.
d) Quoting nreekay:
"yomi had only the minimum 7/7 votes to be lynched, however. By acting crazy in the beginning, yomi singled himself out;"
nreekay is no longer with us but this is an important point about mindset. No matter how much we think yomi had it coming or deserved what he got, we have to hold that to our chest. Not to emphasize the mistakes we made but to use that so we don't make the same mistakes later. Recognizing and differentiating erratic play from purposefully distracting, misdirecting play is key. I think what it means is we need to be more cautious on bandwagoning in the future. We can hang ourselves by our own rope if we're not careful.
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On April 27 2012 10:03 ArcticFox wrote:
Stossel -- welcome to the game! Love the first post. Easy question for you, to get you into the flow -- your predecessor seemed to have many, many, MANY things to say about Maju. What are your thoughts on him?
Taking a closer look at Maju's filter, my biggest suspicion would be that he reacts to any bit of heat. He responded vigorously to draco's accusation but I didn't really see that draco's case picking up steam among everyone else. I wouldn't use this alone as my basis for a scumread though, and I'm leaning more toward nervous townie at the moment.
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I am sorry, I had every intention of voting, but I thought I had more time.
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We've lost Arctic, and he was a fairly obvious choice for a hit for a variety of reasons. I think we should stay the course tonight, nothing said previously is negated by missing a vote and I won't rehash it here. It's my fault for missing the vote, though even if I had voted for imallinson at the time (as he was my top scumread), he would've still needed another vote to actually be lynched.
Furthermore, the lynching of Arctic only serves to make an imallinson vote more worthwhile. The failure to lynch was not due to lack of suspicion and so scum could've easily kept Arctic alive another night to push imallinson for another lynching if he was town and used their hit to focus on someone else.
##Vote: imallinson
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On April 30 2012 21:12 Stossel wrote:
Furthermore, the lynching of Arctic...
##Vote: imallinson
EBWOP - I meant killing
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On May 03 2012 10:47 insectoceanx wrote:
What is dramas case? 3 players did not vote, there are still curently still 3 scum alive. I say that the 3 who did not vote cant all be scum. The next night 2 of them do not vote again, 1 is not scum and 1 is. My point held true, that in our lynch all lurker mindset we were targeting townies that were inactive, while scum was able to post and be respected as a valued townie just because they were active.
You assume this lynch all lurker mindset is bad because you believe that the mafia would all be active. Well, lo and behold when the modkills came out, we saw that even a mafia member was inactive/lurking. Now I'm not saying we haven't made bad calls, the results speak for themselves, but flying under the radar is a viable tactic and is one we're right to look out for, especially in the first few days. This is why it's so important for townies to be active in the first few days so that mafia feel the pressure to be active as well and thus increase their chances of scumslipping.
My top scumread is Insect, and it didn't solidify until Dr3am's post and here's why:
Dr3am came on strong early and then kind of petered out late. I wasn't sure if he was trying to establish himself townie and then fly under the radar or what. It's true that his filter isn't impressive in quantity but a few good posts beats a bunch of fluff.
However, what Dr3am has going for him is that his accusations are fearless and they make sense. At other times this could mean anything, but tonight it means quite a bit more. If we lynch a townie tonight we lose. In providing such a strong accusation, Dr3am is either fairly convinced you're scum or he's scum himself. It would not make sense for Dr3am and insect to both be scum because if Dr3am bussed insect, he'd have to risk another day convincing someone to vote for someone else, not to mention risk his KP on someone with protection (however low that risk may be).
Insect's attitude toward Oneplus is what seals it for me. He's trying to latch onto what he sees as a respected townie so he can himself appear town. This is a "safe" move, but ruined, as Dr3am points out, by Oneplus's own suspicions.
So combining Insect's scumslips with my townread of Dr3am, I'm willing to vote for Insect.
##Vote: Insectoceanx
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Sorry about that game guys. I think the inactivity combined with the Draco replacement really messed things up. I felt like I pretty much got a free pass when I came in. Wish I had more to do but with the inactivity all I was looking to do was coast.
As my first game, I felt really bad about scumreading people I knew were innocent. I'll definitely have to get over that!
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