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There is this weird idea of good/bad manners in the microcosm of Starcraft, not complying to someone saying 'glhf' is considered rude, why? not saying 'gg' after losing is rude too, why? Surely if one does not feel a statement applies to them, they can not honestly say it. Absence of 'politeness' does not equate to being rude unless you assume it to. This whole 'not saying gg is rude' thing is nonsense.
Let me explain how flawed this assumption is;
It's like this situation for example. You say 'hello' to someone online for instance, and after 3 mins you get no response from them. An illogical assumption would be that this person is rude or hates the person saying hello. A logical assumption is that this person is neither polite or rude, but simply can not/does not respond. It doesen't mean anything significant. This same principle applies to expecting others to be obligated into saying 'gg'. If they dont think it was a good game, that's fine.
Whenever I question people on how unnecessary it is to pretend a game was good I get met with insults and anger. Not only is it untruthful but it is mathmatically impossible for every game to be 'good'. Since positivity is relative to a standard, in theory no more than 50% of games can be considered good regardless of how much you enjoy the average game, it is a relative statement and can not apply 100%. So atleast half the time someone is liying if they say 'gg' every game.
So what does it mean?
We are narcissistic and want appraisal for our skill on a regular basis, not recieving it leads us to insulting the other person and discomfort for not complimenting. The problem is not with the person that does not say 'gg', but it is with you making a big deal out of it! You can not reasonably be upset at someone not saying something nice, however it's another story when it's an insult, but not not talking...
GG would be more interesting if it had value.
-Source: basic understanding of psychology.
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opterown
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It's accepted social convention, so it's a bit rude if you refuse it. Sort of like refusing a handshake or high 5
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On April 03 2012 15:09 opterown wrote:
It's accepted social convention, so it's a bit rude if you refuse it. Sort of like refusing a handshake or high 5
First reply often best reply trend continues on TL.
I think the game of golf would surprise a lot of people. This shit has stood for centuries.
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This just in, Sheth is the most narcissistic player in StarCraft 2, more after the break.
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lol is this a troll? face-palm
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GG doesn't literally mean good game anymore its a formality, a deep rooted one at this point. Just like how lol doesn't literally mean laughing out loud anymore.
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A+ for effort, but you missed the mark a little bit...
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On April 03 2012 15:09 opterown wrote:
It's accepted social convention, so it's a bit rude if you refuse it. Sort of like refusing a handshake or high 5
handshakes are not made every 10 minutes.
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I would also say this if I were an asshole
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Agree 100% with OP. I dont say GG at the end of a game but not b/c i am mad that I lost but because it doesn't matter and and 99% of the time I am out of the game before I even see a response from him. If the game was actually good (that one in 50 game) then I toss out a GG WP but I dont think I am responsible to praise common, average play. I am not 7 anymore.
Its not rude to not GG and idk why so many people get so crazy about SC players not being the best person in the world.
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On April 03 2012 15:13 FrayzZeUsher wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 15:09 opterown wrote:
It's accepted social convention, so it's a bit rude if you refuse it. Sort of like refusing a handshake or high 5 handshakes are not made every 10 minutes.
They probably would be if you met someone new every 10 minutes. I don't gg when I play with my friends, for example.
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Honestly, I agree with what you're saying; If it's not a good game, then there's no reason to lie, just leave/take your win and move on to the next game. The criteria of a good game differs as you go from person to person, so having a convention around something so trite, and so variable, leads to the desensitization towards the phrase altogether, and saying it has no meaning 90% of the time. In the end, it's just useless words~
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On April 03 2012 15:08 FrayzZeUsher wrote:
-Source: basic understand of psychology.
You would think that would include some knowledge of manners and how important they are for society.
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I remember my first Psych 101 class :D
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BMing is rude. Not saying gg isn't.
I'll rarely gg, tbh.
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At this point a GG or a glhf stand for more than they used to. When someone says GG, it is an acknowledgement of the other player, and failing to do so is a direct slight against that person.
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United States8308 Posts
On April 03 2012 15:08 FrayzZeUsher wrote:
-Source: basic understanding of psychology.
You're overthinking it.
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If there were no other people playing the game you would have no opponent and you would never improve. We gg because it's a respect that our opponent took the time to match against us and give us a competition, not because it was a good game. It's a social convention that has been around in sports for handshaking after a match, but since you can't physically do that over the internet we can gg.
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People like you who claim to understand psychology are part of the reason that the field is swamped by wannabes and pseudoscience. I forgot who said it but the quote was something like "people who have never given a thought about nuclear physics are all too happy to offer their own psychological theories". You can't just say well this makes sense in my head its true! Research shows that what we expect and what is true are often different even in the "soft science" fields.
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It's like when you sneeze, and someone says "Bless You" and you turn around and say to them "i'm not religious"
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