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6m1hyg Arrival
by Omne aka EatThePath
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UPDATE
- I have addressed the issue of flying CC to the semi-island by introducing a timed out expo blockade. One hostile spine crawler attacks two alternate player hives (stacked on top of each other) until they are both dead, and then the lack of creep kills the spine. Thus, the site is initially blocked and indeed guarded by a spine, which will attack players' units. After about 6 minutes the hives are dead and the spine is at partial health from the broodlings attacking it. After about 7 minutes the creep is gone and the spine has died.
I'm not sure if the option for fast CC to island was an issue, but this doesn't affect the play of the map as intended. And it's right at home with all the other atypical map features. New picture included. =)
I've been having a lot of fun playing Barrin's experimental map Devolution as featured in this thread about using low resource bases to retool the SC2 experience. The 6m1hyg designation indicates that each base has 6 normal mineral patches and 1 high yield vespene geyser, exactly 75% of a normal base.
I want the outburst of testing to continue, and to that end I wanted to make another map for people to play to try out 6m1hyg. Devolution offers plenty to keep me satisfied for game after game, but all the same it's only one map. Also, the idea of making 6m1hyg maps has been exploding inside me since I saw the response to Barrin's thread. I decided to try and make a slightly easier and more standard main->nat->3rd to contrast with the unorthodox options of Devolution. Many of the other bullet point map features are meant to contrast with Devolution so you can see what those differences feel like in 6m1hyg. (For example, there's one XWT, not two, and it watches the push path between naturals.) I also included a lot of exploitable terrain -- aka gimmicks aka nonstandard terrain features. The map size is a little smaller to help people feel comfortable, but the increased number of bases are placed to maximize the movement required to get between them. Center control is very strong for keeping your bases safe, so I hope that promotes map presence in a healthy way.
Here are the specs:
- 120x150 playable area
- 16 bases
- FFE friendly natural
- 2 mineral-only bases with 5 patches
- 2 extra-gas bases with 2 normal vespene geysers (33% more gas income than 1yhg)
- 2 semi-island bases (these are the extra-gas bases -- initially blocked to prevent fast CC)
- 1 Xel'Naga watchtower
- 4 destructible rocks, each blocking half of ramp to semi-islands
- several droppable highground areas
- several LosB features, standard and otherwise
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Pictures
The aesthetics are just what I felt obliged to do to make it playable -- indicate different areas of the map and what is and isn't pathable -- and a bit of fun. These are meant to let you get a sense for the map without having to see it in game.
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Note on balance and testing
I have no idea if this is a good map for 6m1hyg or otherwise, but anything broken will be less noticeable in the wild west of 6m1hyg, hence the shotgun approach to multiple unconventional map features. Nonetheless I welcome criticism of course.
It's not really good science, but I wanted to provide lots of various harass options at the different bases further along in the game. This plays into the "placebo effect" of wanting 6m1hyg to play better so... you play that style you're hoping it will lead to. All the same I hope they are useful; please leave feedback about their usefulness / unfairness if it happened in a game you played.
Last, Devolution should be the go-to choice for testing 6m1hyg. Ideally it will get played enough to make the first page of melee maps by popularity. Please base your opinions of 6m1hyg on Devolution as it was designed to test the style. Arrival is for fun for now. 
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Playing as Terran, my natural CC would be planted in my main, and would fly to the base protected by rocks. Other than that, I really like this map. Numerous semi-risky expansions after the natural force the player to be more active on the map, which I suppose is kinda the point of 6m.
I recall a time when gimmicky things were done to maps, and I recall a time when standards were followed to the letter. I feel like you took these two things by their throats, and smashed them into one another until they began to make a single amorphous creature, which compliments everyone on their appearance and has breath that is always minty.
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your Country52797 Posts
Do the HYG have 5k or 2.5k?
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On March 20 2012 19:48 Chargelot wrote:
Playing as Terran, my natural CC would be planted in my main, and would fly to the base protected by rocks. Other than that, I really like this map. Numerous semi-risky expansions after the natural force the player to be more active on the map, which I suppose is kinda the point of 6m.
I recall a time when gimmicky things were done to maps, and I recall a time when standards were followed to the letter. I feel like you took these two things by their throats, and smashed them into one another until they began to make a single amorphous creature, which compliments everyone on their appearance and has breath that is always minty.
I know terrans can do that, but I think it's okay here? I dunno, will change if needed. Eh... might be too good with hellion opener in TvZ. Thoughts anyone? ><
I like amorphous creatures, I hope others do too. ^^
On March 20 2012 19:50 TehTemplar wrote:
Do the HYG have 5k or 2.5k?
They are 2.5k like on Devolution.
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Oh holy crap there are vespene geysers in the bottom left/top right corners. They were so well hidden on the overview.
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Netherlands4730 Posts
Glad to see you still got it ETP Keep the name tho, ETP is better
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Could blink stalkers blink from the high ground fifth into the semi-island and then into the main? I don't know if it's imbalance, but might be something to watch out for...
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Will probably end up making each HYG have 4000 gas instead of 2500.
Why not 2 normal ones but 25% further away from the base.
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On March 21 2012 00:56 Zandar wrote:Why not 2 normal ones but 25% further away from the base.
Only thing that would have diffrence with standart is that then you would need 8 instead of 6 workers for 2 gas. The way it is in this is you only need 3 instead of 6, but u get a little less gas total.
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Yes, hyg = 2500 gas, not 5000.
For now I am trying to counteract this by having double-gas expansions in the late game. I've been working this out, it's really hard to come to a solution without changing stats. Will probably end up making each HYG have 4000 gas instead of 2500.
3750 seems more like the right number. It takes the same time to mine out as a normal geyser does now, and you end up with a perfect 25% reduction of both income, and total resources, compared to 8m2g.
Just a thought.
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Controlling the center = win since the expansions form somewhat of a ring around the middle of the map.
I never liked the 1 single xelnaga tower idea.
Everything else is perfect :D
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I would plant a creep tumor on the floatable expansion to make it a little less terran float friendly but still possible with some creativity 
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On March 21 2012 12:47 VictorJones wrote:I would plant a creep tumor on the floatable expansion to make it a little less terran float friendly but still possible with some creativity
Oh that seems like a good way to prevent major abuse. Forgot about that, thanks. ;D
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I played this map a little while ago and really enjoyed it, I think the base layout is excellent and leads to multiple attack paths for both players to hit their opponent and have the defend. The one issue I ran across is the amount of sight blockers on the map. The map itself is already pretty large, or at least it feels that way, and because of the far greater emphasis on expanding in a 6m1hyg game you find yourself relying on close monitoring of your enemy's army and attack paths to stay safe. The number of sight blockers on the current map make it really hard to spot the initial move out of your opponent or things like proxy pylons that might be being constructed. Of particular concern is the multi-layer sight blocker right outside the natural leading into the middle of the map, if your opponent seizes control of the central watchtower you won't see them move from there to attack until they're actually in your natural.
Obviously don't take out all the sight blockers, they're generally in pretty good position and add some good tactical depth, there's just a few too many overall. Trimming the hedges a bit should lead to a really good map I'd love to play and watch more of. Great job!
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On March 21 2012 15:02 EatThePath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 12:47 VictorJones wrote:I would plant a creep tumor on the floatable expansion to make it a little less terran float friendly but still possible with some creativity Oh that seems like a good way to prevent major abuse. Forgot about that, thanks. ;D
Or you could put rocks there with like 100 hp or something similar, or maybe go BW style and have minerals with maybe 50 in them that you have to mine out before it can be used. Obviously the mule mechanic has altered the way this can be effective somewhat, but if it were done in such a way that there was absolutely nowhere on the island that the CC could land without mining it out, and you raised the level to say 65, suddenly it would cost 3 mules to take it down, which feels fair enough, or maybe set it to 40, so that a warpprism/overlord/medivac full of workers can mine it out in exactly 1 trip, but still costing 2 mules if you want to do it that way in the early game (where on a 6 min map ~600 minerals early on is HUGE, especially in a FE build.
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What surili said. I would love to see minerals there rather then a creeptumor even though they both work the same way pretty much  Don't think any other map right now has minerals instead of tumors/rocks in sc2?
40 feels fair, 2 mules is alot of income for the terran and one really doesnt wanna have to go several trips with a full warpprism of probes just to get a nina expansion :<
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Great to see more of these. Two thumbs up!
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On March 21 2012 18:05 Surili wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 15:02 EatThePath wrote:On March 21 2012 12:47 VictorJones wrote:I would plant a creep tumor on the floatable expansion to make it a little less terran float friendly but still possible with some creativity Oh that seems like a good way to prevent major abuse. Forgot about that, thanks. ;D Or you could put rocks there with like 100 hp or something similar, or maybe go BW style and have minerals with maybe 50 in them that you have to mine out before it can be used. Obviously the mule mechanic has altered the way this can be effective somewhat, but if it were done in such a way that there was absolutely nowhere on the island that the CC could land without mining it out, and you raised the level to say 65, suddenly it would cost 3 mules to take it down, which feels fair enough, or maybe set it to 40, so that a warpprism/overlord/medivac full of workers can mine it out in exactly 1 trip, but still costing 2 mules if you want to do it that way in the early game (where on a 6 min map ~600 minerals early on is HUGE, especially in a FE build.
Can't you load up to 5 SCVs to a CC and unload them while still lifted?
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On March 21 2012 18:05 Surili wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 15:02 EatThePath wrote:On March 21 2012 12:47 VictorJones wrote:I would plant a creep tumor on the floatable expansion to make it a little less terran float friendly but still possible with some creativity Oh that seems like a good way to prevent major abuse. Forgot about that, thanks. ;D Or you could put rocks there with like 100 hp or something similar, or maybe go BW style and have minerals with maybe 50 in them that you have to mine out before it can be used. Obviously the mule mechanic has altered the way this can be effective somewhat, but if it were done in such a way that there was absolutely nowhere on the island that the CC could land without mining it out, and you raised the level to say 65, suddenly it would cost 3 mules to take it down, which feels fair enough, or maybe set it to 40, so that a warpprism/overlord/medivac full of workers can mine it out in exactly 1 trip, but still costing 2 mules if you want to do it that way in the early game (where on a 6 min map ~600 minerals early on is HUGE, especially in a FE build.
what you could do as well would to make it a high yeild as mules dont take extra from them it would allow z and P to mine it promptly while not being t imbalanced
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