EPTI've played three games before this one; this is my only chance to play a newbie xp
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EchelonTee
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I've played three games before this one; this is my only chance to play a newbie xp | ||
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 On February 14 2012 07:34 Probulous wrote: I love watching the newbie games, always better manners and better scum hunting too. buh? | ||
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The MOST important thing that newbie townies lack, imo, is the ability to create a good town atmosphere. it's really important to keep discussion crisp, focused, and constructive, as opposed to belligerent, random/crazy, or the worst, when town activity is nonexistent. that said, I am going to play a lesser role in this game due to school ramping up, so I'm going to focus on making few, constructive posts. just an fyi. I won't lurk like a douche | ||
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guess we'll see how this game unfolds | ||
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On February 16 2012 07:27 d3_crescentia wrote: Ok, I'll play if there's a slot still open. It's about time I padded my post count. you should /in for the official-ness | ||
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On February 17 2012 09:02 GreYMisT wrote: ................................................................................................ I really just blew my 2k post on you guys............................... You guys better play your goddamned best. bad time for my metagame shift to a synthesis of Chezinu+Blazinghand, huh <3 | ||
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Mr. Wiggles Mini: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=296791&user=152817 TL Mafia L: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=152817 GMarshall's Normal Mini: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452&user=152817 | ||
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On February 17 2012 10:35 jaj22 wrote: Do I want to lynch lurkers on day 1? At a gut level, absolutely. It's not necessarily optimal though. If we have someone who's both active and scummy, lynching them is a better choice. However, that's much more likely if we don't let people lurk, so it's important to maintain a real threat. I agree, we should lynch lurkers. in a 12 man setup, Mafia can't lurk as easily or they lose like nubs. Newbie III is an example. with 15, they can hide away, as we lynch scummy looking newbs. If sloosh doesnt post within 12-24 hours, I'm going to presume that it's because he was busy posting in scum QT. | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:29 trackd00r wrote: By the way, that poll is just lol.... How are we going to keep non-players from voting? :/ If you think lingering on lurker discussion too long is a bad idea, then you should know that that poll is an even more useless time sink. | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:33 gumshoe wrote: Why in tarnations would you think that? Seriously though the purpose of the random ass poll was just to see if the mafia made one big decision or not, unfortunately less that 12 people out of the 15 voted so I cant say that they took any part in this vote, nor can I say that they didn't, what I can tell is that its highly likely that at some point around when town began to treat the poll as the sorta joke it seemed, and all voted the mafia option AGAINST my wishes(as I pretty much predicted), the mafia probably hoped on the happy train of cynicism to discredit the pole and not stand out. So this pole has been somewhat useful in showing that at least two or maybe even all four of the mafia are being active early on. Wether that information is useful or not you can decide for yourself, but you cant blame me for trying ) : I would like it if you divided your walls of text into paragraphs; it took me a few to fathom your post, when I realized you're not saying anything. | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:43 gumshoe wrote: K very simple I wanted to see if any voting patterns formed within the poll It was like a lynch simulator But less than 12 people have voted in the pole therefore any conjecture regarding any mafia patterns is at the moment useless. Because it's possible that none of the mafia voted given that town thinks the poll is stupid and just posted on it randomly or trolingly. Discredit it until theres twelve votes or just discredit it period if you so please. That is all. I'm not trying to offend you, or needlessly discredit you; your post was just hard to understand, and I did not quite understand the purpose of what you did. post however you please. as a random aside: Mafia gets heated, so if I'm acting like an asshole just let me know and I'll tone back. | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:51 DoYouHas wrote: The point is not to lynch lurkers, it is to lynch scum. If a lynching a lurker is the best option we have near a deadline, then by all means, let's do it. But policy lynching is just a terrible idea. I am already looking suspiciously at the ET for espousing it. FOS: EchelonTee That lynching scum is better, is pretty obvious. However: 1.everyone is essentially posting: "lurking is bad, so we should pressure lurkers, but let's not actually lynch them because they could be bored townies, but let's keep the threat alive, but.... zzzzzzzzz" point is, lurking is bad, and there has to be legitimate reason to stop people from lurking. everyone stating they dislike lurkers, but being all wishy-washy on their opinion is useless. My last game was raped by lurkers, and 2/3 were scum. That is unacceptable. 2. policy discussion is conversation starter, not the main course. I'm not going to talk about this anymore. Policy discussion is good to draw out the tone of how people will be posting. But in the end, this stuff can't be the sole reason to lynch anyone. | ||
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On February 17 2012 12:20 slOosh wrote: No, because it was baseless. Instead, I tried to figure out what motive a townie might have by saying this in that manner. Calling out people 2~3 hours into the 48 hour day doesn't really make sense does it? Did I accuse you of being Mafia? don't twist my words. there a motives for both townie and scum to do so. | ||
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On February 17 2012 12:40 slOosh wrote: You are getting defensive. I just wanted you to clarify a post. Now, how is your attitude so flip-floppy? Three things: 1st: I clarified my post, pretty clearly. I said "because I wanted you to post". Clear, no? You are the one who did not want to drop it. Stating that I am being defensive is hypocritical, because you are getting all jazzed up on me asking you to post. My earlier post said "if sloosh doesnt post, I presume hes in scum QT". Since you posted, that means I don't presume that you're in scum QT. AKA, I am NOT calling you out in anyway. So why would you post this? On February 17 2012 12:20 slOosh wrote: No, because it was baseless. Instead, I tried to figure out what motive a townie might have by saying this in that manner. Calling out people 2~3 hours into the 48 hour day doesn't really make sense does it? Why keep on pressing this? you're being needlessly defensive, and soft accusing me. Mafia like soft accusing, it takes away the need for accountability. 2nd: Saying that I am flip-floppy implies that I am switching between at least 2 opinions, multiple times. What is the evidence you use to state that I am doing this? On February 17 2012 12:40 slOosh wrote: Gumshoe does his weird poll thing, you ask if he could write his posts more legibly, and then take a very friendly stance of making sure no one is offended, asking for accountability etc. Now I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is how you shift your attitude so quickly. I assume the :D in the next quote indicates playfulness. Then just a few minutes later you lash out against me, clearly telling me what not to do - "don't twist my words" You don't even use my posts on gumshoe, you just mention it in passing. What? If you were trying to imply that I went from mean (gumshoe) > nice (gumshoe) > nice (you) > mean (you), and that this is a sign of attitude shifting that is utterly wrong. I am still completely suspicious of gumshoe; I just don't want to insult him and make him feel bad. I could easily do that, as I did to Timeaisis last game as scum, but I'm not in the mood to be manipulatory. Me stating that I don't want to be an asshole is irrelevant to my view point on gumshoe, my attitude has not shifted. Next, you presume that my disposition towards gumshoe and towards you should be the same, or else I am being suspicious. That makes no sense at all. Towards gumshoe, I am suspicious. Towards you, I was indifferent. Why do I have to act with the same attitude to different people? However, your subsequent posting shifted me to not liking you, because you wouldn't drop something insignificant. Thus, yes, *gasp* my attitude shifted ONCE from indifferent to suspicious, on you. Gee, changing opinions is so dastardly and scummy! For clarification: the last sentence was ironic. 3rd. Lastly, you make some argument about how townie and scum only think in certain ways: On February 17 2012 12:40 slOosh wrote:And that last line: "there are motives for both townie and scum to do so." That may be true but a townie would never think like that. If they did something that might be misconstrued as scummy, they would clarify themselves. They wouldn't say both mafia and town could have acted in the way they did. If a townie did something that might be construed as scummy, they would clarify themselves, so that people don't get suspicious of them. If a scum did something that might be construed as scummy, they would clarify themselves, so that people don't get suspicious of them. Woah, Batman, town and scum can do the same things for the same reasons??? What is this??? slOosh, to presume that only townies try to look townie is foolish. You are using WIFOM. Finally, if you're truly suspicious of me, vote me. You already FoS'd me. You're trying to get someone else to start it, so that you don't have to claim responsibility when the bandwagon mislynches, but you're trying to put in the impetus so someone else will do the work for you. I know how scum works. shove off. | ||
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