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[UoN]Sentinel
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On January 29 2012 09:42 Oneshoteagle wrote: /in as a newbie and I'm don't have any posts because one of my friends just told me about tl mafia so I actually had to create an account. Never too late to start. TL Mafia gets your post count through the roof if you're an active participant, so it'll get you cred on other places in the site too. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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[UoN]Sentinel
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As for D1 lynch, sometimes we get lucky and someone paints themselves red, then lynch lynch to victory  | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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We should kill the first night, and I should say who dies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. Anyone's guess is as good as random, and random buys us exactly 25% right now. Since our odds are only going to get worse from here, I say we take them. I will use a random number generator to decide which of this crew is executed. I'm sold. ##Vote: Sinensis | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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I have a history of voting for people who fluff. My primary reason being that they're derailing the discussion and possibly doing it on behalf of scumteam, but also because, at least in the beginning, these are the kind of people impeding progress anyway. Like if there's 7 of us left with 2 mafia and 5 towns, I wouldn't advocate a lynch like that because we need all the votes and information we can get to lynch the right people, as if we lynch a random townie we won't get his power (if blue) and the next day it's 3 townies and 2 mafia left. lynch or lose that day, then the next there's 2 towns and 1 mafia, another lynch or lose. Right now however it's not that drastic. It's 9 on 3. Best case scenario we lynch the right person, mafia kills one of us and it's 8 on 2. Much more favorable odds. Even better if the doc manages to bring that up to 9 on 2. Worst case scenario it's 7 on 3, townie lynched and townie shot. This is pretty bad, but unless we lynch the vigilante then we can still pull out with a well-placed bullet. I don't like this scenario, but accidents do happen. Pretty much every plan I can think of in my semi-awake state gets blocked by that damn hedonist. I think I'll take a nap and then get back to this. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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And Nisani... well, I see where he's coming from, but I find it a little bit odd that he found blue 100% green while finding me 100% because of the bandwagon. My vote was on Sinensis because of what we have to work with. Day 1, all we have to work with is how people post their opinions, and how direct they are. Obviously fluff is a major issue here because posting something in 3 paragraphs that can be explained in 2 sentences. Combine that with a horrible idea (RNG for voting) and you got yourself a suspicious case. | ||
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On February 03 2012 06:16 mderg wrote: Did I understand it right that the day 1 lynch isn´t as important to you as other lynches? This can give scum a good opportunity to vote without proper reason... and that´s not what we want. Also I don´t like how you just assume there´s a Vigilante and a Hedonist in this game. The setup is semi-open, so we can´t be sure about that. Especially "knowing" about a Hedonist in the game indicates that you might be scum... a town player shouldn´t know that. These are minor aspects off your play and don´t mean you´re scum, but right now you´re my top suspect. Along with the easily following the votes on Sinensis it justifies a vote from me. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel Alright, I'll explain the Hedonist bit. My train of thought revolved around using detectives to check suspicious players, which goes to nil if the Hedonist can just target the same player, so either he's scum and gets saved or he's not scum but is under suspicion. For blue roles, I'm just assuming that. There's 9 citizens, I'm betting 3 of those are out there, maybe 4 if we're lucky. If you go check bluelights, he actually went as far as to say "1 of each role, 1 of each scum but the hedonist, and 5 townies." I'm wondering why you didn't say anything about that. Assuming there's 1 of each except for the hedonist (a 25% chance, there are 4 possible permutations if no scumrole is doubled) is a bit more scummy than assuming scum has a hedonist (75% chance by same prediction). And what I'm saying is that Day 1 mislynch (after confirmation) is worse than Day 1 no lynch. At least in no lynch we spare a potential townie. Given that you're following the vote on me from Nisani's same train of thought (and completely ignoring Messrs. Bluelightz and prplhz), I could use the same argument on you. And time, I just saw you declare bandwagoning. You're next on my suspicion list after Sinensis. Time to nap. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On February 03 2012 09:43 Timeaisis wrote: Well, regarding your last part. Three hours later, yeah, I'm on someone else because frankly, Sinensis has been acting less and less scummy since his initail "RNG lynch" idea. And throughout further review on my part, Sentinel seems to have it out for some people regardless of what they say. I'm simply trying to move this along, because both prplhz and Sentinel have seemed hositle and or scummy in the past 3-4 posts. Since Sinensis seems to be making a reasonable claim against prplhz and mderg's opinions about Sentil make good sense to me. So no, I'm not "changing my vote", I just think, due to recent events, Sentinel seems more of a threat than Sinensis and prplhz right now. So, yeah, call me "bandwagoning" or whatever. I'm voting for someone who I think is scum due to someone else's (mderg's) reasing, who, honestly, has had the only pretty reasonable piece of evidence against someone in this entire game. So yeah, I'm still voting for Sentinel. And you're defense of Sentinel is starting to make you look like you know something the rest of us don't... Woke up. I thought I would be guillotined by this time but apparently so far nobody else has voted for me. Voting because someone else said so is not a good policy. You should at least justify why you think his is the only reasonable evidence when I clearly addressed and refuted his every point. Sinensis is turning slightly greener for me, but your actions thus far have just been a giant WTF for me. So until then, ##Vote: Timeaisis | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On February 03 2012 10:05 Sinensis wrote: Where'd you do that? Why did you think you'd be guillotined by now? Before I left I saw a sudden surge of votes for me. I expected people to just copy and paste that voting button and lynch lynch lynch. On February 03 2012 06:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright, I'll explain the Hedonist bit. My train of thought revolved around using detectives to check suspicious players, which goes to nil if the Hedonist can just target the same player, so either he's scum and gets saved or he's not scum but is under suspicion. For blue roles, I'm just assuming that. There's 9 citizens, I'm betting 3 of those are out there, maybe 4 if we're lucky. If you go check bluelights, he actually went as far as to say "1 of each role, 1 of each scum but the hedonist, and 5 townies." I'm wondering why you didn't say anything about that. Assuming there's 1 of each except for the hedonist (a 25% chance, there are 4 possible permutations if no scumrole is doubled) is a bit more scummy than assuming scum has a hedonist (75% chance by same prediction). And what I'm saying is that Day 1 mislynch (after confirmation) is worse than Day 1 no lynch. At least in no lynch we spare a potential townie. Given that you're following the vote on me from Nisani's same train of thought (and completely ignoring Messrs. Bluelightz and prplhz), I could use the same argument on you. And time, I just saw you declare bandwagoning. You're next on my suspicion list after Sinensis. Time to nap. I feel like I have addressed and refuted his every point. | ||
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On February 04 2012 04:54 sinani206 wrote: [/b]so I will be voting for sentinel who has gone quiet since he took the lead in votes. That's a little something called "school". I woke up and went there today. Timeaisis: Can you link me to a good analyisis of why they're not? It seems to me that you, sentinel and bluelightz are all pro-lynching me, while everyone else suspects sentinel (other than Echelon). Putting two and two together I'd wager that you, sentinel and bluelightz are all scum, which if you go back, I said pages ago. And guess who else said it pages ago: Sinensis! I'm sorry, what is this? If everyone else suspected me sans the three of us and Echelon, that would be 8 votes on me. I'd be dead. There are only 5 votes on me which means that 7 people think I'm either innocent or not important enough to be lynched. This is why I feel like I have a more legitimate beef - when I voted, I pointed out exactly which part made me suspicious. You on the other hand went "herp derp that guy voted for Sentinel so I'm voting for Sentinel". I might have bandwagoned but at least I gave a little bit of evidence (the paragraph I quoted) while you gave absolutely zero other than some other guy voted for him. I don't even understand why I'm getting all these votes as a result of this. Then he says: Sinensis, the one who was bandwagoned first. Then, soon after that FoS, an interesting post by Bluelightz, probably because Sinensis and I our stirring up trouble, and we're obviously both new. "Sentinel, the one who was bandwagoned second. Then soon after that FoS, a shitload of lynches, an interesting post by prplhz and EchelonTree, probably because everyone thinks we're stirring up trouble when really these votes are unjustified in such numbers." Sinensis: You however have not voted logically all game And you voted me for going to school. There are plenty of people being attacked in the thread right now... why is it that the people I suspect as scum are only defending their circle of three? Why are you only suspecting us three when at least time warrants suspicion? And I WISH someone in this thread actually knew what a "bandwagon" was so I wouldn't have to keep seeing it used out of context. Bandwagon is jumping onto a conclusion with little to no original evidence. I had little, timeaisis had no. This is the central topic of this discussion. Everyone understands the word in this game as approximately that definition, so there is no problem. And lastly, Toast: We should be going after them until we can get a psyker read on Sentinel. 50 bucks says that if there's a hedonist he'll taint me. If there isn't a hedonist and we somehow can confirm this, 50 bucks people will think there's a hedonist because I'm listed as "Not Tainted" and some people can't get it into their heads that I. Am. Not. A. Scum. And before people say I'm going silent again, this is my game plan: It is now 4:00 EST. Between 4:25 EST and 8:30 EST I will be busy due to swim practice. So if anybody's wondering why I'm lurking, here's your answer. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On February 04 2012 06:04 GMarshal wrote: I know its probably not an actual bet, but as a reminder, rule #9 reads Cheating is considered: 9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits. So please ^_^ Yeah, it was a joke, I was trying to drive the point home (and I don't see any in-game benefits from the money itself). But thanks for that. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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Anyways, I'd like to make a personal request. I'm at 5 votes, if I get 6 and you want to be the seventh, please extend it for another 4 hours or so, so I can make one last defense when I get back. In other words don't kill me just yet, just post a reason why and put FoS on me or something, and I'll address as much as I can when I get back. And for once, I agree with Timeaisis: Like someone said earlier, I don't care who you vote for, but is looks to be either me or sentinel tonight. Which is fine. I urge you to pick me or him. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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There was one somewhere who posted "I think GM wouldn't have set Time as mafia for balance reasons", I think now that we've gotten that out of the way I'm pretty much 100% on Time (no pun intended). Now that the votes are off me, I need to get some sleep. Other than a 3-hour nap yesterday I haven't gotten any sleep in the last two days and I can't think anymore. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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Rather mislynch a possible mafia (because let's face it, we're not all HIV-positive about Time being scum, but it's still pretty likely), even if we get into that sticky predicament that I predicted oh so long ago, than no lynch and sit on our thumbs instead. Pulling two votes off of Time right now is risky, because it would cast suspicion on the two that do it. If the two mafias already bussed Time, then they're going to stay that way, and I think if someone just decided it wasn't worth the lynch, and then one of the mafias put in another vote, those two people would be suspected of collaborating as scum, and Time probably would be too. Let's break down what our friend here can be. Imperial Timeaisis, or even worse, Blue Timeaisis dying today, means I'm probably fucked, and prplhz is joining me in that club since he's been backing me up. I'll repay that gratitude in the best way I can, because I don't know if you're scum or not but you let me survive the day, and I owe you that. Hedonist Timeaisis means easy win for town, makes our detective that much stronger since there's pretty much nobody to block him from checking suspicious people. Unless, of course, mafia gets lucky and either finds him or shoots him. Other mafia is still good for town and can take away that power from mafia (unless he's goon, then it's another warm scumbody town can dispose of). In this case Detective just has to be smart, and check people who the scum wouldn't target with their hedonist. EZ. | ||
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