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Learn Korean Thread
Hello, and welcome to the TL Learn Korean Thread/initiative!
Moreso than most other online communities, many people here wish to learn Korean. Be it to listen to the fabled Korean commentary (think plaguuuuu), read other fansites, or just get generally more insight into what is going on, (Iโm ignoring the elephant in the roomโฆ kpop) learning Korean is something that has been coming up very frequently as of late.
Although I am by no means further along than most, the frequency of these posts and the need for information, and help has prompted me to make one thread where the members of tl.net may help each other, obtain resources, etc. So here we go.
Hangul
Want to read Korean phonetically? Highly encouraged for all those interested in Starcraft
+ Show Spoiler +Hangul is the writing system of Korean. It is among the easiest languages on the planet to read phonetically, and oftentimes allows you to figure out, at the very least names. Ever watch Brood War but have no idea who was playing who? This allows you to phonetically read the names. If watching a stream, and you see an opponent with a Korean name, if it is somebodyโs name phonetically (as Tod has, much respect) you will be able to read it. Although you wonโt be able to understand what theyโre saying, any familiar names or terms will be obvious. It takes very little time and is very useful. Artosis says you should learn it. So you should learn it. Here are resources. Mizuโs guides are generally very good. Here are two other sites which seem to be useful as well. Are there any other good resources? Post them. Mizuโs blogs in increasing difficulty level Korean Wiki Project Rendition Talk to me in Korean Series (2 part)
Hanja
Iโve heard significant talk about Hanja, or Chinese characters in Korean writing. Ignore them for now, in this day and age almost everything is in Hangul, and many are for all intents and purposes deprecated to the average speaker.
Tldr: Ignore hanja if you donโt know that much about it
Language
The rest of the language is hard to learn. Itโs classified as being among the hardest languages to learn for an English Speaker, but those speaking Chinese and Japanese will find it significantly easier than those speaking Germanic, Slavic, or Romance Languages.
It will take significant dedication to do, but here are resources to look at. I advise you start with the following resources
Free
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Paid
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To be avoided
+ Show Spoiler +- Rosetta Stone - Generally considered terrible for those starting with Korean. Debatable merits after that
- Most online paid sites
Learners
Want to work on how things are going? Here is a list of those interested by relative skill level. Skype would be good, and group discussions could be had.
+ Show Spoiler +- Froadac - Brian - nativeforeignerwiki - Hangul and basic phrases - Basic Fluency
- DKR - Wil Martin; Skype - wil.martin What you know - am most of the way through TalkToMeInKorean Level 1 so very basic Goals - Would like to speak fluently one day, intend to teach in korea for at least a year
- KnowYenemy: Andrรฉ Skype : knowyourenemy2 What you know : currently regular level2 at EWHA University Seoul
Goals : speak fluently
- )Messer( Skype - NalMesser What you know - i've learnt Hangul few days ago (still have problem with few vowels), can count up to 10, few basic terms used in Taekwon do training. Goals - Fluentness is impossible without proffesional teacher then anything close to this. At least basic conversations and understanding common and popular conversations.
- Strat4lyfe; Lance Skype : Strat4lyfe What you know : so far, none of korean Goals : be able to speak and read korean
If you wish to be added to the list
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TL Name
Real name (optional)
Skype
What you know
Goals
Teachers
Fluent in Korean? Want to help learners? Post information and best form of contact here.
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Template to be added to list
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TL Name
Real name (optional)
Skype
How are you fluent
What help are you willing to offer
Other Resources
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Motivation/Success Stories
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If you know of other good resources which I've missed (I know I've probably missed a lot) go ahead and post. I think this is a generally reasonable OP, but any advice would be welcome.
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Sorry if this is irrelevant, but how would you input "gg" in korean (i.e. do I need a language pack)?
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On January 04 2012 09:18 101toss wrote:
Sorry if this is irrelevant, but how would you input "gg" in korean (i.e. do I need a language pack)?
You need Southeast asian language pack, and add korean as a keyboard input. Then just toggle to hangul, and bam
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On January 04 2012 09:01 Froadac wrote:
To be avoided
[*]Rosetta Stone - Universally considered terrible for Korean.
100% disagree. I spent 3 months with Rosetta Stone and can speak fluently with other native Korean people perfectly fine. Great resource.
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On January 04 2012 09:24 k1mjee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 09:01 Froadac wrote:
To be avoided
[*]Rosetta Stone - Universally considered terrible for Korean.
100% disagree. I spent 3 months with Rosetta Stone and can speak fluently with other native Korean people perfectly fine. Great resource.
Can anyone else confirm Rosetta Stone isn't shit? I'm using it too, and if it's 'universally considered terrible', I'm gonna stop.
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On January 04 2012 09:30 Calasmere wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 09:24 k1mjee wrote:On January 04 2012 09:01 Froadac wrote:
To be avoided
[*]Rosetta Stone - Universally considered terrible for Korean.
100% disagree. I spent 3 months with Rosetta Stone and can speak fluently with other native Korean people perfectly fine. Great resource. Can anyone else confirm Rosetta Stone isn't shit? I'm using it too, and if it's 'universally considered terrible', I'm gonna stop.
Why don't you continue using it and see if it works for you? :p
I know people that swear by Rosetta Stone and others that say it was a huge waste of money on the same language.
I'm using it for a different language and it's worked well for me.
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Well, I'll remove that. But having asked around a lot, people always come to consensus that although it can be useful if you already know korean, it's a relatively poor way to get started. (esp considsering cost)
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On January 04 2012 09:38 Froadac wrote:
Well, I'll remove that. But having asked around a lot, people always come to consensus that although it can be useful if you already know korean, it's a relatively poor way to get started. (esp considsering cost)
A few points:
1) If you actually think people on an internet forum such as TeamLiquid will drop $600 on a language program with their implied knowledge of torrents and how the internet works, you're in for a surprise.
2) I didn't know ANY Korean except "Hello." when I started this.
3) Each person learns a different way, so to say something is good or bad isn't plausible if you're applying it to others. Some HATE Rosetta Stone, some LOVE it.
4) Learning over Skype and whatnot is all well and good, but you'll never fully understand a language if you learn this way. Learning a language takes time, effort and dedication. Yes, your motive will help learn maybe very basic words and phrases, but to actually speak Korean, you need to be around people that speak it fluently so you can realize how much faster it is said word-for-word and how it operates. Good initiative by you to do this and more power to you, but sitting at your desk and memorizing phrases and whatnot for a few hours a day for a few weeks will get you EONS further than having a "coach"/"helper".
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I think you mislinked my part 1. :3
I'm so humbled.
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On January 04 2012 09:45 k1mjee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 09:38 Froadac wrote:
Well, I'll remove that. But having asked around a lot, people always come to consensus that although it can be useful if you already know korean, it's a relatively poor way to get started. (esp considsering cost) A few points: 1) If you actually think people on an internet forum such as TeamLiquid will drop $600 on a language program with their implied knowledge of torrents and how the internet works, you're in for a surprise. 2) I didn't know ANY Korean except "Hello." when I started this. 3) Each person learns a different way, so to say something is good or bad isn't plausible if you're applying it to others. Some HATE Rosetta Stone, some LOVE it. 4) Learning over Skype and whatnot is all well and good, but you'll never fully understand a language if you learn this way. Learning a language takes time, effort and dedication. Yes, your motive will help learn maybe very basic words and phrases, but to actually speak Korean, you need to be around people that speak it fluently so you can realize how much faster it is said word-for-word and how it operates. Good initiative by you to do this and more power to you, but sitting at your desk and memorizing phrases and whatnot for a few hours a day for a few weeks will get you EONS further than having a "coach"/"helper".
I'm not saying osmebody can't learn it with rosetta stone. I know people have. I also know people have generally reviewed it very poorly.
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On January 04 2012 09:54 mizU wrote:
I think you mislinked my part 1. :3
I'm so humbled.
Thanks. You so pro XD
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On January 04 2012 09:24 k1mjee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 09:01 Froadac wrote:
To be avoided
[*]Rosetta Stone - Universally considered terrible for Korean.
100% disagree. I spent 3 months with Rosetta Stone and can speak fluently with other native Korean people perfectly fine. Great resource.
At what level?
I might erm, obtain it later today and give it a shot, but generally people have disliked it. While it's certainly possible to learn with it, general consensus lies against your experiences.
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On January 04 2012 11:14 jpak wrote:
์ ๊ฐ ์ข ๋์๋๋ฆด๊น์? ํ์ง๋ง ์ ์ ํ๊ตญ์ด๋ ์์ ์ด๋ฑํ์ ์์ค์ด์์ ใ
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Mine is worse. So bad I used gewgle translate, and am responding in english XD
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bITt.mAN <--- TLuu
g.rome2 <--- Skypuuu
0 <---- Knowledgeuuu
Understand Commentators on mah VODs / survive a trip alone to Korea to watch BW while it still happens
I've always wanted to learn Korean, and after a 3 month stint away from TL/SC entirely, I've realized the amount of time I invest in learning to get better at Starcraft is wasted, so I want to devote that time to learning Korean instead. (: This all makes learning it so much easier! (:
Here's something I can contribute:
Look for the printer-friendly sheet on how to read hangul
You can also look through the cube stuff if you must (:
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On January 04 2012 11:19 bITt.mAN wrote:bITt.mAN <--- TLuu g.rome2 <--- Skypuuu 0 <---- Knowledgeuuu Understand Commentators on mah VODs / survive a trip alone to Korea to watch BW while it still happens I've always wanted to learn Korean, and after a 3 month stint away from TL/SC entirely, I've realized the amount of time I invest in learning to get better at Starcraft is wasted, so I want to devote that time to learning Korean instead. (: This all makes learning it so much easier! (: Here's something I can contribute: Look for the printer-friendly sheet on how to read hangulYou can also look through the cube stuff if you must (:
Thanks. I'm taking my formerly SC2 time to work at this so that seems to be a common theme XD
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I've great success with Rosetta when combined with Korean class. People just complain because they can't afford the price tag I assume.
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I suppose. People think it's an OK supplement, but poor for self study. And more of the bad reviews are on amazon and other sites where the majority would probably cough up so.
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