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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 18 2011 22:53 GMT
#1
I know there are similar topics made but the mobile market is growing very fast and many new smartphones have hit the market.

I was looking today at some phones and my best friend has an iPhone 4S but Im sure I dont wanna buy an iPhone because i dont like the iOS. I prefer android (my wife got a samsung galaxy S).

Now Ive seen some cool Samsung phones, like the Nexus
but ive also seen a really cool youtube video of the LG Optimus 3D which I think is a cool one.

What im interested mostly is this due to work:

Best possible screen,colors,display
Good response
Fast processor (hate it when it gets slowed down a bit , the samsung does it sometimes)
Be able to watch 1080p videos from youtube.
Be able to watch live streams from TL.net
Have easy access to my gmail, hotmail
Have a google map app and run smooth.

Thats the most i look out in a phone, i dont care so much about games or many applications. android already has the basic cool apps i ll look out.

Any help would be much appreciated. Also money isnt an issue i just want the top of the line smartphone Dont want to buy the LG 3D and then find out another phone can do more or is better cause im gonna get sad i didnt make the right choice.
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 22:57:20
December 18 2011 22:56 GMT
#2
If you get any Android besides the Nexus / Galaxy line you'll probably be severely disappointed.

That's one of the problems with Androids. It runs on the widest variety of gadgets, from the ones that probably took 3 seconds of design thought to the Galaxies. I don't even think HTCs are that great when compared to the Galaxies.

Everything you're looking for is in the Nexus. Except the slowing down part is inherent of Android.
And why would you want to watch 1080p (I doubt you'll even have the bandwidth to support it reliably) on a non-1080p screen?
Antrix
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany6 Posts
December 18 2011 23:01 GMT
#3
Why do you want to be able to watch 1080p videos from youtube when no smartphone has the necessary display resolution or do you want to connect the device to a TV or monitor?
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 18 2011 23:02 GMT
#4
On December 19 2011 07:56 jacosajh wrote:
If you get any Android besides the Nexus / Galaxy line you'll probably be severely disappointed.

That's one of the problems with Androids. It runs on the widest variety of gadgets, from the ones that probably took 3 seconds of design thought to the Galaxies. I don't even think HTCs are that great when compared to the Galaxies.

Everything you're looking for is in the Nexus. Except the slowing down part is inherent of Android.
And why would you want to watch 1080p (I doubt you'll even have the bandwidth to support it reliably) on a non-1080p screen?


Nexus is better I suppose from Galaxy, right ?
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 18 2011 23:05 GMT
#5
On December 19 2011 08:01 Antrix wrote:
Why do you want to be able to watch 1080p videos from youtube when no smartphone has the necessary display resolution or do you want to connect the device to a TV or monitor?

The LG Optimus 2X has a 1080p display res?
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 18 2011 23:08 GMT
#6
Yeah it's the newest one. I would never suggest an Android to anyone unless they were dead set on it. But if they are, it would be this one currently.

It's got some pretty good hardware on it.
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
4.6" 1280x720 (720p) Super AMOLED Screen
1.2 Ghz Dual Core
Ice Cream Sandwich (Anrdoid 4.0)
5MP Rear Camera / 1.3MP Front Camera
LTE/CDMA + WIFI + Bluetooth

I think the build quality of this phone is far superior to anything else on the market as far as Androids are concerned right now.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 23:10:34
December 18 2011 23:09 GMT
#7
On December 19 2011 08:05 ffswowsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 08:01 Antrix wrote:
Why do you want to be able to watch 1080p videos from youtube when no smartphone has the necessary display resolution or do you want to connect the device to a TV or monitor?

The LG Optimus 2X has a 1080p display res?



Being able to record video in 1080p is not the same as being able to display it on the screen. Being able to record in 1080p is not even that big of a feat anymore. There are like some sub-$100 cameras that can do that now.


It seems the Optimus 2X has a 480x800 resolution.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#8
On December 19 2011 08:08 jacosajh wrote:
Yeah it's the newest one. I would never suggest an Android to anyone unless they were dead set on it. But if they are, it would be this one currently.

It's got some pretty good hardware on it.
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
4.6" 1280x720 (720p) Super AMOLED Screen
1.2 Ghz Dual Core
Ice Cream Sandwich (Anrdoid 4.0)
5MP Rear Camera / 1.3MP Front Camera
LTE/CDMA + WIFI + Bluetooth

I think the build quality of this phone is far superior to anything else on the market as far as Androids are concerned right now.


Can you check the LG Optimus X2 and LG Optimus 3D specs and compare them to the Samsung Nexus and tell me their differences ?
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 23:11:30
December 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#9
On December 19 2011 08:09 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 08:05 ffswowsucks wrote:
On December 19 2011 08:01 Antrix wrote:
Why do you want to be able to watch 1080p videos from youtube when no smartphone has the necessary display resolution or do you want to connect the device to a TV or monitor?

The LG Optimus 2X has a 1080p display res?



Being able to record video in 1080p is not the same as being able to display it on the screen. Being able to record in 1080p is not even that big of a feat anymore. There are like some sub-$100 cameras that can do that now.


It seems the Optimus 2X has a 480x800 resolution.


I think it can also display it on the screen:
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 23:20:23
December 18 2011 23:18 GMT
#10
That is a video recording from the phone itself. He's not playing that on the phone screen. He's showing a sample of how good the video recording is from the phone.

That video will definitely look better on a Nexus than on the Optimux 2X.

4.6" 1280x720 Super AMOLED Screen (Nexus) vs 3D LCD 480x800 (Optimus 3D / 2X).

Basically, 720p vs 480p.

The 2X is slightly better than the 3D in terms of specs (i.e. Camera megapixel - 8MP v 5MP, antenna, etc.) except the 3D records in 3D. Gimmicky as I don't think you will ever be doing that.

Essentially, the Nexus has the same hardware or better of both the 3D and 2X (minus 3D video capturing) but has the much better screen. And better made (at least I think so).
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 18 2011 23:23 GMT
#11
Remember also, I'm talking about the Samsung Nexus (released not too long ago), not the Nexus S (released last year).

The Nexus has great hardware, which is to be expected since it's so new. It has about 6 months on the 3D and 10 months on the 2X. I would expect it to be much better.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 18 2011 23:23 GMT
#12
On December 19 2011 08:18 jacosajh wrote:
That is a video recording from the phone itself. He's not playing that on the phone screen. He's showing a sample of how good the video recording is from the phone.

That video will definitely look better on a Nexus than on the Optimux 2X.

4.6" 1280x720 Super AMOLED Screen (Nexus) vs 3D LCD 480x800 (Optimus 3D / 2X).

Basically, 720p vs 480p.

The 2X is slightly better than the 3D in terms of specs (i.e. Camera megapixel - 8MP v 5MP, antenna, etc.) except the 3D records in 3D. Gimmicky as I don't think you will ever be doing that.

Essentially, the Nexus has the same hardware or better of both the 3D and 2X (minus 3D video capturing) but has the much better screen. And better made (at least I think so).

Thanx alot for the feedback!!! Now the Nexus costs 600 euro and the LG just 300.... big difference there !_!
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 18 2011 23:26 GMT
#13
Well, you can also get the Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Nexus S. They're older so they should be a little cheaper than the Nexus.

Only thing is you go back to a 480x800 Super AMOLED Screen. But the build quality should be about the same.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 18 2011 23:30 GMT
#14
On December 19 2011 08:26 jacosajh wrote:
Well, you can also get the Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Nexus S. They're older so they should be a little cheaper than the Nexus.

Only thing is you go back to a 480x800 Super AMOLED Screen. But the build quality should be about the same.


btw if I wasnt so keen on android, you would have recommended the iPhone 4S, right? Why is it so much better you think? my friend told me its cause its iOS is the smoothest out there.
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 18 2011 23:37 GMT
#15
It really is the smoothest. I currently own both an iPhone and Android. I've owned several of both in the last year or so.

iOS never craps out on me. My Android just decided to reset itself about 2 hours ago in the middle of a phone call for no apparent reason. etc. etc. Apparently, this is just a problem inherent of the Android OS as I don't know any gadget that is immune to this. Some may do it less than others, but you get the point.

iOS may tie your hands more in terms of preferences. But the preferences it gives you already conform to 99% of the world.
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 01:29:48
December 19 2011 01:28 GMT
#16
On December 19 2011 08:37 jacosajh wrote:
My Android just decided to reset itself about 2 hours ago in the middle of a phone call for no apparent reason. etc. etc. Apparently, this is just a problem inherent of the Android OS as I don't know any gadget that is immune to this. Some may do it less than others, but you get the point.


What? I have a android phone and its never done this. Haven't had any real problems with it, pretty satisfied. The one thing I dislike about it the most is that the screen rotation is not very reactive and I have shake the phone sometimes to get the screen to rotate from vertical to horizontal and vise versa. One other thing I dislike is that the phone came with some bloatware apps that it won't let me remove -_-. Other than that it works great. I have a HTC Thunderbolt btw (but I wouldn't recommend getting one of these now obviously, its somewhat outdated).
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 19 2011 02:29 GMT
#17
What I meant was that I've heard of many phone models (gadgets) doing this. Not that every phone does it. At the rate Android phones come out, I don't obviously keep up with every single model, but it's enough for me to think it's just an OS problem. I mean this was the reason why the App Killer app was such a big deal at Android's release. I don't think it's as big of a deal anymore with the updates though. So I guess the OS has gotten somewhat better at resource management.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 19 2011 02:58 GMT
#18
You can't argue that Android's product quality is on par with iPhone because it isn't.

However, Samsung's galaxy and nexus prime are pretty darn close to it.

iPhone is still probably the best consumer smart phone though and for good reasons.
Rillanon.au
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 03:08:05
December 19 2011 03:02 GMT
#19
I've have to do battery pulls out of my Galaxy S because it locks up. Its not often but it does happen and its pretty annoying. The iPhone 3GS might be slow but it isn't unstable under iOS5.

iOS is definitely more responsive than Android. This is a fact, if you've used a WP7 or iOS device it should be plain obvious. If you can't feel it, I'll chalk it up to cognitive dissonance.

The current Galaxy Nexus uses Ice Cream Sandwich, which is the first Android OS that looks pretty good IMO. That being said, it looks like it has some typical hardware/software problems with loss of input when two input points are antipodal, absurdly thin plastic back, two completely different versions, and the trademark Android stutter when loaded.

The Verge did a good post about which smartphone is best for you. One thing I have to correct is that neither Android or WP7 (hahahahaha) have competent support with Microsoft Exchange so if you need it, neither are a good option. Really, the only bad thing about iOS is that you can't customize it...which is hardly a problem because the stock OS works fine for me.

Edit:
When we talk about customize, we're talking about putting stupid themes in the background and changing the UI entirely. iOS isn't THAT locked that you can't set your own wallpaper or notifications.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 03:30:30
December 19 2011 03:22 GMT
#20
On December 19 2011 12:02 Womwomwom wrote:
I've have to do battery pulls out of my Galaxy S because it locks up. Its not often but it does happen and its pretty annoying. The iPhone 3GS might be slow but it isn't unstable under iOS5.

iOS is definitely more responsive than Android. This is a fact, if you've used a WP7 or iOS device it should be plain obvious. If you can't feel it, I'll chalk it up to cognitive dissonance.

The current Galaxy Nexus uses Ice Cream Sandwich, which is the first Android OS that looks pretty good IMO. That being said, it looks like it has some typical hardware/software problems with loss of input when two input points are antipodal, absurdly thin plastic back, two completely different versions, and the trademark Android stutter when loaded.

The Verge did a good post about which smartphone is best for you. One thing I have to correct is that neither Android or WP7 (hahahahaha) have competent support with Microsoft Exchange so if you need it, neither are a good option. Really, the only bad thing about iOS is that you can't customize it...which is hardly a problem because the stock OS works fine for me.

Edit:
When we talk about customize, we're talking about putting stupid themes in the background and changing the UI entirely. iOS isn't THAT locked that you can't set your own wallpaper or notifications.


Next time I have another iPhone vs Android debate with my brother who's argument is "Android is better. I'm an engineer, I should know" (although his company only endorses iPhone as company phones, and not for exchange reasons I'm sure), I'm going to pull this out. He says my phone and his phone only lock up and we have to do battery pulls because it's made by Motorola. "Samsung phones don't do this," he says.

And, maybe that's why the decided to allow people to have a removable battery. And everyone thought that was a feature

Edit: I just got the part about the WP7 and exchange. lol.
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