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MLG statement on Providence Code S spot

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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 21:17:52
December 15 2011 20:04 GMT
#1
This is going to be posted on our site a little later today but I thought I'd start here since a lot of the speculation is coming from r/starcraft

Statement below-

The original agreement between MLG and GSL through the League Exchange Program (LXP) stated that the highest ranked player in the Top 3 from each MLG Pro Circuit event in 2011, including Providence, who did not already have Code S status would be granted Code S status at GSL for one season.

With the recently announced changes to the 2012 GSL season, GSL switched the MLG Providence Code S invite to two spots at the GSL Blizzard Cup. Naniwa was awarded one of these spots. Unfortunately, the change was made without notification to MLG, but it is within GSL's jurisdiction to adjust placement.

-sd

quote from reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/ne2jh/mlg_official_statement_as_requested/
same statement now on MLG site: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/official-mlg-statement-regarding-the-naniwa-code-s-issue

Update: The statement on the MLG site apparently is slightly different. The addition is marked bold.

I find this a bit weird. I found the annoucement of Blizzard Cup by GOM on October 6th.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272406
This was way before the annoucement of the 2012 season and the eventual removal of the Code S spot.

At least this is a huge communication mistake.

Clarification: The changes were made before Blizzard Cup (unclear, if before Providence). So removing the Code S spot had nothing to do with the Naniwa incident during Blizzard Cup.
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Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
December 15 2011 20:05 GMT
#2
They should appologize to Naniwa to IMO
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 20:14:05
December 15 2011 20:07 GMT
#3
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3099 Posts
December 15 2011 20:07 GMT
#4
Yeah, quite strange. It's really not acceptable for GSL to change stuff like this around without notifying their partners. Bad business strategy.
That being said, no real harm done. GOM just needs to make sure nothing like this ever happens again.
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Gilion_
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway14 Posts
December 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#5
Strange by GOM. When you make a deal you don't change it without the other part at least knowing about it.
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
December 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#6
Do you see the irony in that?

They didn't lied and they had the right to do so, it was not against the rule. But doing it without telling anyone was seriously unprofessional.

Naniwa got punished, because he was unprofessional. But, what he did was not against the rule.

Weird, is in it?
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
December 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#7
Foreigners bending over to Korea, sounds similar to NASL. They know people want to watch Koreans play and with that card in their hand, they can get away with things as they please.
terranmoccasin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States74 Posts
December 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#8
We really need to drop this and move on. For anyone that doesn't want to support GOM, so be it. I feel like all of this drama impacts every organization and the fans negatively. The best anyone can do is to avoid situations like this altogether in the future.

Let's just enjoy some SC2!
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 15 2011 20:09 GMT
#9
hmmmm.... not the full blown statement i was hoping for (maybe that is coming later), but i guess that is their position. this is going to cause another shitstorm.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
December 15 2011 20:09 GMT
#10
On December 16 2011 05:07 zeru wrote:
So basically MLG Providence code S prize was an unintentional bait and switch, made by GOM? wtf.


It's not like code S seed even means what it did when the season started. Before code S was a guaranteed paycheque and hard to ever lose out. Now it's a serious competition and Code A seeds are worth more proportionally; as they can now breach code S much easier.

So yeah, they probably shoulda been more clear all around what was happening with the seeds but it makes sense if you think about it.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
December 15 2011 20:09 GMT
#11
Sounds reasonable. Figured things changed once Gom revamped the GSL completely.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 20:12:52
December 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#12
Whoops! We changed the prizes and didn't tell anyone! Sorry guys!

-_-

Edit: Of course I mean GOM.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
December 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#13
We all knew GOM was making up the rules to suit thrm anyways.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#14
Huh? what was the date that slasher tweeted the Code S status wasn't from MLG, they had to know prior to this, if not at the time of the event. This is so unnecessarily messy and it doesn't seem like either side wants to clean it up.
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MrBanana
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom13 Posts
December 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#15
On December 16 2011 05:05 Eee wrote:
They should appologize to Naniwa to IMO


Why exactly should they be doing that? It was GOM's decision to remove naniwa's Code S spot, and MLG have clearly said in there statement that GOM was within their rights to do so. The only organisation that should maybe (depending on which side you're on) be apologizing is GOM.

On topic: The statement itself is pretty much cut and dry..GOM hasn't violated any rules, and MLG seems pretty powerless to revert the change if they wanted to. I mean, sure, there's the whole debate of "MLG should cancel the partnership now" but that's kinda silly to do over an incident such as this. The whole situation is just becoming silly now anyway. There have been countless new threads opened every day since it happened all about the same issue - this doesn't just apply to TL either, it's on reddit aswell. Sure, it's a potentially huge upset...but people need to stop making repeated posts about the same issue.
andvruss
Profile Joined April 2011
1 Post
December 15 2011 20:11 GMT
#16
GOM has lost much of my respect after this whole thing, claims to suspend Naniwa due to 'unprofessionalism' and then pulls something like this? Very bad, very unprofessional
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
December 15 2011 20:11 GMT
#17
Doubt their intent was bad. Probably just a miss communication.

Nevertheless, massive drama ensuing in 3-2-1....
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
December 15 2011 20:12 GMT
#18
On December 16 2011 05:10 Chill wrote:
Whoops! We changed the prizes and didn't tell anyone! Sorry guys!

-_-


Yeah right. What's funny is that this is their claim, which is preposterous in the first place. But, the reality is that they decided to change it after they didn't like the results (ie. NaNi in Code S) and that's what makes this such garbage by GOM.
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johanreidel
Profile Joined December 2011
27 Posts
December 15 2011 20:13 GMT
#19
The actions that they show are just as, if not worse, bad as what Naniwa did.

I feel that GOM as an organization is dishonored by there actions and the way they have acted is insulting to us, the paying viewers. They are not professional nor are they fitting to host a tournament like the GSL. I'm saddened by this, just as I was by what Naniwa did since his actions also insulted a lot of people.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 15 2011 20:13 GMT
#20
this shitstorm is getting really annoying and retarded.
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