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[D] Glider v Jenny Data Thread (CONGRATS!)

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chaynesore
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 09:30:24
December 13 2011 01:23 GMT
#1
To anyone who wasn't just following that ridiculously epic thread about voting for Glider, you missed an awesome community experience - but to those who were there, I was the dude posting the graphs. My original reason for keeping this data was to analyse WTF went wrong after the fact because things were looking qutie grim a few hours ago, but we won!! As long as YouTube don't pull a fast one on Glider on the 19th when they announce, we shouldn't need it at all. Nevertheless, I'm making it available just in case, and for those who would like a closer look to maybe understand or try to reverse engineer what exactly was going on with those votes from the opposition.

DOWNLOAD LINK: [url blocked]

UP TO 4PM @5min Sampling
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4PM - 5PM @1min Sampling
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Note the gap represents only a little bit of data removed because it presented as an outlier on the ratio plot and skewed the axis ridiculously. It's available in the spreadsheet though.

10mins @15s Sampling
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I hope it's okay for me to make this thread, I just figured it might be better to be easily available rather than having to search through all the hundreds of "FUCK YEH!!! WE RULE" posts towards the end of the main one, lol. I'd also suggest though that all theories and discussion of botting / data analysis be kept to this thread? And if there is any other data people have collected (I saw a few people putting good stuff out there but I was too busy with the graph sampling to do much else), I'll edit it into the OP

In the face of cheating or not though, we won! Congratulations to Glider and the Sc2 community abroad. I only came into this scene with the launch of Sc2 so I'm relatively new here but it's true what everyone says - this is the nicest community there is. Absolutely unbelievable effort guys. What a great day :D

"When things get weird, I'm in my element." - Liquid`TLO
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
December 13 2011 01:28 GMT
#2
I voted! Awesome guy, he really deserves the feature; also, how big of a deal is getting featured for a day on youtube anyway--i mean, I had never even heard of this before I saw glider's blog.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
December 13 2011 01:31 GMT
#3

What on earth are you talking about?
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
December 13 2011 01:32 GMT
#4
But seriously.. FUCK YEAH, we rule.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
SadSatyr
Profile Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
December 13 2011 01:33 GMT
#5
I'm so confused by all the data. A little more explanation please? Are you saying Jenny was botting to try to beat Glider?
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
December 13 2011 01:34 GMT
#6
I voted twicee haha, one of my comp and the other on my school comp w00t w00t
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 01:36:10
December 13 2011 01:35 GMT
#7
I helped him to win.
keep it deep! @zulison
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 13 2011 01:36 GMT
#8
On December 13 2011 10:31 Sawofhackness wrote:

What on earth are you talking about?


Try reading the post you might just find out.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 13 2011 01:40 GMT
#9
can someone explain the botting theories Cuz I don't really see how the nice ESL teacher could have botted!
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
December 13 2011 01:41 GMT
#10
Ok, so for those who weren't following the thread, take a look at the "Growth Ratio by 5 Minute Interval" graphs (4-5 shows it the best). This shows that the votes for JenniferESL seem to mirror the votes for ThePortraitArt fairly closely. On top of that, people refreshing the page noticed that Jennifer's votes seemed to move up in groups of 50 votes at a time, where Glider's seemed o be moving up fairly normally by a couple votes at a time. This lead most people to believe that someone was botting votes for Jennifer.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 01:43:22
December 13 2011 01:43 GMT
#11
can you make some pie charts out of the data?
bisu
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
December 13 2011 01:48 GMT
#12
ESPORTS winning :D
These graphs are...interesting to say the least.
So happy that Glider came out on top!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#13
fuck yeaaaaaah we win! Take that Jennifer
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 01:54:54
December 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#14
The identical growth lines of exactly 1 seem a bit suspicious to me. I am so chuffed glider won though :D Esports hwaiting!
How many bears could bear grylls grill if bear grylls coud grill bears?
EllipZ
Profile Joined May 2011
France378 Posts
December 13 2011 01:56 GMT
#15
honestly all this hype seems too much when you see the price for this vote but it was pretty fun
gg glider!
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 02:04:38
December 13 2011 01:59 GMT
#16
On December 13 2011 10:28 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I voted! Awesome guy, he really deserves the feature; also, how big of a deal is getting featured for a day on youtube anyway--i mean, I had never even heard of this before I saw glider's blog.


He gets featured for a month. Think about the millions of people that go to youtube everyday and i'm sure you'll realise why its such a big deal.

Edit: Actually getting mixed answers for how long he gets featured >.<
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 13 2011 02:00 GMT
#17
I like how TL really got together for a cause.

Sometimes TL can make me a happy man
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 13 2011 02:08 GMT
#18
After about 40k votes for the Jennifer ESL thing, I was getting really suspicious. Her subscriber base isn't particularly large and she kept somehow managing to keep up with our community's votes. Anyways, good work everyone and grats to Glider!
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 13 2011 02:12 GMT
#19
On December 13 2011 10:59 zJayy962 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 10:28 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I voted! Awesome guy, he really deserves the feature; also, how big of a deal is getting featured for a day on youtube anyway--i mean, I had never even heard of this before I saw glider's blog.


He gets featured for a month. Think about the millions of people that go to youtube everyday and i'm sure you'll realise why its such a big deal.

Edit: Actually getting mixed answers for how long he gets featured >.<

it's just for a day
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
December 13 2011 02:15 GMT
#20
I missed the video of him drawing Zenio Someone link me plox. voted, congrats man, by far the best choice for vote, fully deserved!
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
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