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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 03 2011 11:34 GMT
#10
i want to play too, new at this though

/in
Refallen
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452 Posts
December 04 2011 08:06 GMT
#92
Hello! First time at this, let's have a fun game!
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 04 2011 10:46 GMT
#100
Correct me if I'm wrong but how is random lynching better than lynching based on analysis? You can argue that a 6/25 chance of getting a mafia is good enough but surely the latter option would provide better odds?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 04 2011 14:33 GMT
#127
hyshes why are you voting for syllogism?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 04 2011 14:53 GMT
#130
Not a smurf; I lurk TL while watching SC2, discovered this forum, and enjoyed reading through TL Mafia XLVII!
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 04 2011 14:53 GMT
#131
Though it gets tiring to read the huge wall of texts sometimes though
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 04 2011 15:08 GMT
#134
What's a Zodiac list?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 04 2011 15:43 GMT
#143
haha ok, I skipped past most of the trashtalk but it was really interesting to see who was scum in the end and what the roles did.

(I really thought palmar was scum that game haha)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 04 2011 17:00 GMT
#172
redFF why do you say Palmar is acting scummy?

anyway I'm going to bed look orward to reading this thread tomorrow!
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 01:01 GMT
#307
Oh, I forgot to confirm.

I read my PM etc before I made any posts once the day had started (just to be clear that I am aware of my role align in all of my posts etc etc).


I thought this was weird by vader, wouldn't this be automatically assumed? Not sure what to make of this though, whether it leans him more to a powerrole/mafia or just nothing special.

I agree with redFF's analysis for the most part, and I especially found it weird that Palmar proposed the no-day lynch, which indicates him to be maybe scum. However, I'm not sure how far Palmar posting "useless" stuff would go in proving he was scum; from what I read of XLVII (admittedly the only time I saw Palmar play), he just likes to post huge amounts of text, whether it might be immediately useful or not; seems to me he's just throwing his thoughts out there, hardly a scum tell.

VisceraEyes Scum-List of Correctitude

Palmar - I liked Red's case on Palmar, and his attempt to discredit it by discrediting me is telling. Like, yeah...he thinks I'm bad...but my skill-level has nothing to do with Red's points or Palmar's posts. It's a ridiculous non-defense, and it's scummy as hell. SCUM.

Drazerk - His criticism of Radfield of his RNG vote caught my eye. Like, what's the point there? Does he think he's scum trying to appear to contribute? Does he think he knows how to play better than Rad? We don't know because he doesn't say. It looks to me like he's soft-defending prplhz...especially when he says things like "...you're not going to stick with Prplhz throughout the entire day and if you do you're tunneling him which has drawbacks"....it stinks of pre-knowledge. Not to mention the fact that he's posted several times and hasn't voted OR given his opinions on any players. SCUM.

We still have a lot of lurkers, I'd like to see content from everyone fastly.


You know, I find this post a bit weird. He points out in the Palmar argument that skill level discussions are irrelevant when deciding who to vote; a good point. And yet he uses the same line of argument to argue for Drazerk being scum, simply for critisizing Radfield. ("Does he think he knows how to play better than Rad?"). It sounds like you're trying to get people to vote Palmar...

Right now I think Corrupt looks pretty scummy but he hasn't really had a chance to speak out and defend himself yet. Still, if day ends now I would vote him to be mafia.

PS: What does EBWOP mean? Also, how do you get the "On Date XXX YYY wrote:" when you quote?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 01:33 GMT
#316
You're right redFF, your case isn't about him posting large amounts of text. I'm just pointing out that him posting supposedly useless stuff, and even contradicting himself to an extent, might not be scummy behaviour, especially coming from someone who I think likes to throw his thoughts out there often.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 02:43 GMT
#329
Yes, what prplhz said about VE is what I was thinking as well.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 04:26 GMT
#344
Yeah uh, let's not vote people for no reason
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 04:35 GMT
#350
I feel that that was a definite attempt to redirect/distract which seems scummy to me
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 04:47 GMT
#357
not only that but the claim that there has been nothing in the past 17 pages to analyze suggests that he is more likely scum than town. I have a hard time believing that any townie would say they found nothing special in the past 17 pages, and even if they did, they would more likely be trying to generate discussion by asking questions rather than throwing out a random vote to someone who is town and distracting everyone from it.

(Also I find it interesting that the other person who has called out Drazerk is VE, who I think to be slightly suspicious as well)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 05:30 GMT
#366
I haven't been "jumping on easy votes" at all, I didn't agree with Palmar/Corrupt and said so, and I also laid out my reasoning why I thought Soap was scum. Obviously, I wasn't aware of prior metagame history which makes me think that he isn't so scummy anymore.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 05:31 GMT
#367
edit: Sorry, I didn't mean to say I don't agree with Palmar/Corrupt being scum, just that I haven't been jumping on the bandwagon and immediately voting for them.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 06:01 GMT
#370
On December 05 2011 13:47 Refallen wrote:
not only that but the claim that there has been nothing in the past 17 pages to analyze suggests that he is more likely scum than town. I have a hard time believing that any townie would say they found nothing special in the past 17 pages, and even if they did, they would more likely be trying to generate discussion by asking questions rather than throwing out a random vote to someone who is town and distracting everyone from it.

(Also I find it interesting that the other person who has called out Drazerk is VE, who I think to be slightly suspicious as well)


^^ my reasoning

And haha I think I only seem defensive because the thread is moving soooooooooooo slowly and I'm waiting for the NASL finals to finish
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 06:11 GMT
#372
oh I see what you mean, you're saying I should've posted my reasoning first? Yeah I agree I probably should have done that, my bad. Though I don't see how that can be considered scummy since I responded with my reasons
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 05 2011 06:22 GMT
#374
Because I thought he was most likely to be scummy; if I was just bandwagoning I would have jumped on the Palmar/Corrupt bandwagon long ago
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