EPTI must have formulated myself badly in the interviews I did not mean to call nestea bad. Or. An idiot watch next col iview. . .
He said he would smash me before the game so that's why I wanted to do something funny. Also sry @MLG I felt very pressured .
@eneKeyHunt @compLexityLive no pressure people twist what I say to what they want tho. I mean no disrespect to nestea
There's a lot of drama around all this naniwa/nestea thing. Looks like naniwa isn't as bad as many people claim he is though. I lost some of my respect for him first but maybe it was just miscommunication. Discuss.
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Naniwa and Nestea are in the player area talking; they seem to be on good terms. #MLG
Naniwa and Nestea are in the player area talking; they seem to be on good terms. #MLG
Interview with naniwa:
MLG STATEMENT:
On November 21 2011 01:39 MLG_Adam wrote:
#2 The first attempt at playing game 3
The game was mistakenly started by the casters while the admin was still in the booth talking to players. Nestea was taken off guard, had to rush back to get his keyboard (etc) ready. It was a false start one could say and the commissioner decided to restart so both players had a fair and even start.
3. The second attempt at playing game 3
Naniwa misunderstood the admin (complete miscommunication that I personally attribute to the language barrier). The game was paused as Naniwa refused to play.
4. The "Coach" incident
I personally went to the crowd and got Scott and escorted him to the booth. Why? Naniwa was about to be DQ'd for refusing to play due to the miscommunication. I stood there as Scott told him he had to play.
5.
Naniwa did receive a technical for various infractions.
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#2 The first attempt at playing game 3
The game was mistakenly started by the casters while the admin was still in the booth talking to players. Nestea was taken off guard, had to rush back to get his keyboard (etc) ready. It was a false start one could say and the commissioner decided to restart so both players had a fair and even start.
3. The second attempt at playing game 3
Naniwa misunderstood the admin (complete miscommunication that I personally attribute to the language barrier). The game was paused as Naniwa refused to play.
4. The "Coach" incident
I personally went to the crowd and got Scott and escorted him to the booth. Why? Naniwa was about to be DQ'd for refusing to play due to the miscommunication. I stood there as Scott told him he had to play.
5.
Naniwa did receive a technical for various infractions.
Explanation about why he isn't cheating and about what happened:
So I was sitting in the front row of the main stage while this whole thing went down. Let me try to give some context.
BEFORE the ordeal with the map happened, another ordeal happened. I caught in the chat one of the players saying that they needed to use the W.C. before the match started (I don't know which one it was), to which the admin responded "no, we have to start now". Then RedB said "ask your admin" to which the admin in the chat responded "we're going now" and they immediately cut to the ads on the player screens.
At that point Artosis and Tasteless are still on the screen, but the match had started. Then Tasteless says something about "NaNiWa says he's going to pause the match.... we have to sort this out" - at which point I realized that it was NaNiWa that had to use the bathroom, and after about a minute of play (which was never put on the screen), paused the match. That's when they cut to the paused game in which there was OVER a minute of play time played. At this point, nobody really did anything, until the admins on stage realized that it was a horrible situation and they had to let him go to the bathroom (I get that they were late to start with... but it seems unreasonable to start a match when one of your players isn't ready because of time issues). That's when they cut away, NaNiWa left the booth (presumably to go to the bathroom). NesTea looks pretty pissed at this point (as pissed as you can imagine NesTea looking). The coach comes over to the booth and tells him he can go to the bathroom, and he's like but dude I'm already settled (I could tell because of his body language), and then finally agrees to go anyway.
They both get back and they decide to restart the match.
EXCEPT.
NaNiWa got back before NesTea (I believe), but in any case, he quickly pulled up the replay from the match before anybody could stop him. As soon as the official on the stage realized, he went into the booth to tell him to stop, but it was too late, NaNiWa had already seen the starting position of NesTea. This went largely unnoticed.
So they restart the match, and as soon as NaNiWa's scouting probe gets to the cross base and sees nothing there, he paused the game and said "?" "wrong map?". At this point one of the admins approaches the booth, but then he posts "admin told me cross only\", which was, in my opinion, very smart on his part, so that the audience knew what was going on and they couldn't just shut him up.
At this point he talks to the admin, and the admin immediately looks defeated. The admin then walks over and talks to a couple of other people. This is when Sundance arrived, and joined the conversation. The admins then talked to all of the other officials on the stage, presumably asking if anyone had told NaNiWa that the map should be cross positions.
This is where the story diverges. I think that one of two things happened.
(1) Somebody actually told him this but nobody would cop up to it. In NaNiWa's mind, seeing the spawn in the replay reaffirmed the "fact" that the official had told him earlier. (2) Nobody actually told him this, but since he saw the replay, he assumed it would be cross position again and was pissed when he realized his cheese wouldn't be as effective.
I could see the lead admin guy ask and look at all of the other officials on the stage, to which people were shaking their heads, as if everyone was agreeing that nobody told him this. At that point, the official went back in the booth to break the bad news to NaNiWa. NaNiWa was PISSED, visually repeating "NO, NO, NO!". It was apparent that he felt cheated, which I believe that he actually was. If he was told cross spawns, and it wasn't, that could seriously mess up your entire game, and in my opinion, the game should have been replayed.
After the official left, he typed the rest of the text, "joke tournament" and "give me a minute to rethink".
Here is why I think that option (1) is more likely.
The officials allowed NaNiWa's coach INTO THE PLAYER BOOTH with 1:47 on the clock and the game paused. The coach talked to NaNiWa for a minute or two before he left and shut the door. Then a few minutes later, gameplay resumed. Why would the officials let the coach in to re-strategize IN THE MIDDLE OF A MATCH if they didn't believe they were at fault?
This entire time, NesTea is sitting in his booth, looking defeated. At this point, it's over half an hour since the first attempt at this game had started, and he must not be in his proper mindset.
I feel really bad for both players, and for MLG. I feel bad for NesTea because he was put through this horrible ordeal, and the disruption in the normal flow likely contributed to the loss. I feel bad for NaNiWa, because I feel that he was told one thing about the spawns, and that he knew that MLG knew that they were wrong, and played anyway (regardless of the outcome.) And I feel bad for MLG because they were put into a tight spot... But they honestly could have avoided this two-fold. (1) Let him go to the bathroom when he requested before the countdown timer, and (2) if they felt that they were at fault (which I think is undeniable by the allowing the coach into the booth during the game), then they should have replayed the match.
Just my $.02
BEFORE the ordeal with the map happened, another ordeal happened. I caught in the chat one of the players saying that they needed to use the W.C. before the match started (I don't know which one it was), to which the admin responded "no, we have to start now". Then RedB said "ask your admin" to which the admin in the chat responded "we're going now" and they immediately cut to the ads on the player screens.
At that point Artosis and Tasteless are still on the screen, but the match had started. Then Tasteless says something about "NaNiWa says he's going to pause the match.... we have to sort this out" - at which point I realized that it was NaNiWa that had to use the bathroom, and after about a minute of play (which was never put on the screen), paused the match. That's when they cut to the paused game in which there was OVER a minute of play time played. At this point, nobody really did anything, until the admins on stage realized that it was a horrible situation and they had to let him go to the bathroom (I get that they were late to start with... but it seems unreasonable to start a match when one of your players isn't ready because of time issues). That's when they cut away, NaNiWa left the booth (presumably to go to the bathroom). NesTea looks pretty pissed at this point (as pissed as you can imagine NesTea looking). The coach comes over to the booth and tells him he can go to the bathroom, and he's like but dude I'm already settled (I could tell because of his body language), and then finally agrees to go anyway.
They both get back and they decide to restart the match.
EXCEPT.
NaNiWa got back before NesTea (I believe), but in any case, he quickly pulled up the replay from the match before anybody could stop him. As soon as the official on the stage realized, he went into the booth to tell him to stop, but it was too late, NaNiWa had already seen the starting position of NesTea. This went largely unnoticed.
So they restart the match, and as soon as NaNiWa's scouting probe gets to the cross base and sees nothing there, he paused the game and said "?" "wrong map?". At this point one of the admins approaches the booth, but then he posts "admin told me cross only\", which was, in my opinion, very smart on his part, so that the audience knew what was going on and they couldn't just shut him up.
At this point he talks to the admin, and the admin immediately looks defeated. The admin then walks over and talks to a couple of other people. This is when Sundance arrived, and joined the conversation. The admins then talked to all of the other officials on the stage, presumably asking if anyone had told NaNiWa that the map should be cross positions.
This is where the story diverges. I think that one of two things happened.
(1) Somebody actually told him this but nobody would cop up to it. In NaNiWa's mind, seeing the spawn in the replay reaffirmed the "fact" that the official had told him earlier. (2) Nobody actually told him this, but since he saw the replay, he assumed it would be cross position again and was pissed when he realized his cheese wouldn't be as effective.
I could see the lead admin guy ask and look at all of the other officials on the stage, to which people were shaking their heads, as if everyone was agreeing that nobody told him this. At that point, the official went back in the booth to break the bad news to NaNiWa. NaNiWa was PISSED, visually repeating "NO, NO, NO!". It was apparent that he felt cheated, which I believe that he actually was. If he was told cross spawns, and it wasn't, that could seriously mess up your entire game, and in my opinion, the game should have been replayed.
After the official left, he typed the rest of the text, "joke tournament" and "give me a minute to rethink".
Here is why I think that option (1) is more likely.
The officials allowed NaNiWa's coach INTO THE PLAYER BOOTH with 1:47 on the clock and the game paused. The coach talked to NaNiWa for a minute or two before he left and shut the door. Then a few minutes later, gameplay resumed. Why would the officials let the coach in to re-strategize IN THE MIDDLE OF A MATCH if they didn't believe they were at fault?
This entire time, NesTea is sitting in his booth, looking defeated. At this point, it's over half an hour since the first attempt at this game had started, and he must not be in his proper mindset.
I feel really bad for both players, and for MLG. I feel bad for NesTea because he was put through this horrible ordeal, and the disruption in the normal flow likely contributed to the loss. I feel bad for NaNiWa, because I feel that he was told one thing about the spawns, and that he knew that MLG knew that they were wrong, and played anyway (regardless of the outcome.) And I feel bad for MLG because they were put into a tight spot... But they honestly could have avoided this two-fold. (1) Let him go to the bathroom when he requested before the countdown timer, and (2) if they felt that they were at fault (which I think is undeniable by the allowing the coach into the booth during the game), then they should have replayed the match.
Just my $.02
