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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
However NASL is casting stuff that 4-8 weeks old (some of it still on the last patch) which shoots two of those things right in the foot. It's impossible to judge the metagame of when the matches were played cause NASL is not upfront about their delays, and a player that was hot 8 weeks ago might be slumping now. Just seems like it really throws off the whole idea of making a proper liquibet when you can't account for all these variables. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Personally I just click on the NASL games quickly judging who could possibly win the game. With the sheer volume of games and their age Diamond has a very good point. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
I made a similar thread about this issue. You should check the polls out as they are in favour of removing NASL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281632 | ||
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Phobbers
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
GSL (149) 75% Both (43) 22% NASL (8) 4% Poll: Do you think NASL should be on liquibets? No (144) 61% Yes (70) 29% I'm not sure (24) 10% | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
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Camail
United States1030 Posts
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
Personally, I don't watch or really follow NASL, I feel that there really isn't any coherence or continuity between the matches like you get in a tournament like GSL. I also feel like many of the players in NASL their skill level is drastically lower than what is present in the GSL. I don't mean to disrespect these players, but it's just the truth. Honestly, there is a slippery slope here, if NASL is put in, then why not ESL's weekely Go4SC2, or IEM, or IPL. What does NASL have that those tournaments do not? JonnyLaw also has a good point about the volume of games. So I support this suggestion 100% | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19035 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:14 tofucake wrote: I don't mind because I pick based on my gut feeling and not by doing nearly as much research as you. But having 84 new Liquibets every day is damn tiring. My problem with this is that usually gut feeling is going to take SOMETHING into effect rather than just "I like the look of his name". You can't take into account recent performance/tournament results, nor do you even know what patch the games were played on necessarily (at this point it's probably a good bet everything is on the latest patch, but in the past even many weeks after the patch was released some of the games were still old patch). I agree betting shouldn't be done on NASL because of that. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:06 TheToast wrote: Honestly, there is a slippery slope here, if NASL is put in, then why not ESL's weekely Go4SC2, or IEM, or IPL. What does NASL have that those tournaments do not? NASL has a timeline of weeks. This gives us time to bet on games and (someone?) to insert liquibet candidates. IPL3, IEM, Dreamhack, are all played over a weekend. This means you'd need to watch live to guess the winners of more than the pools or first round of play. NASL, GSL and TSL are the three tournaments I've seen in starcraft which are more suited for a liquibet style system on a community site. That being said, I stick with my earlier sentiments. | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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