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On August 19 2011 09:32 Kurumi wrote: If Navillus answers incorrectly or does not respond till 9:45 KST You can answer it. This crap should not be allowed... if he continues it I'll be happy to join along and vote for Kurumi. @ Navillus: In general, I have a strong suspicion of people who open up games with long policy posts - yeah it might be a null read, but they're a great way for mafia to establish town cred. The part that I find very troubling about declaring that you'll be the official lurker-tracker is that being a lurker tracker is an easy way for a mafia to maintain post counts and "contribute" without really contributing. | ||
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On August 19 2011 18:56 Erandorr wrote: Oh and lastly we should at least try to keep the fluff out of the posts. There were so many posts were you could esentially drop more then half of the text without losing any of its meaning. For some people this will be TL:DR I really wish you would take your own advice. ----------------------------------- I'm actually inclined to agree with Palmar regarding Dropbear. Policy posts at the start of games are kind of scummy. HOWEVER, I don't think there is anything about DB's posts that are more scummy than other posts, and I've seen how Palmar plays scum... | ||
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oh the irony.... | ||
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On August 20 2011 03:16 DropBear wrote: Ok so the thread so far consists of people making riddles, silly accusations and parrotting "lurkers are bad". This shit needs to stop. Noone has said ANYTHING of value yet. I made a post about this but the issue was ignored so here goes. THE GRAND DESIGN - This game has the possibility of no-lynches - No-lynches are generally anti-town - We need a system to ensure they do not happen - I propose that we elect an unofficial mayor to decide how to break ties close to deadline, should a no-lynch look likely. Such a person will be responsible for choosing who changes their votes and how it is done, or alternatively they will take on the responsibility of being the person who changes their vote to ensure a lynch takes place. - Such a person needs to be willing to cop criticism and cannot be a total fuckwit. Hopefully non-mafia as well  They will not be required to do anything if a lynch looks like going ahead.- I nominate myself for the position. I am decisive, active, capable of good reasoning and most importantly I am town. I don't know if this had worked in a previous game, but this sounds like a really dangerous (or stupid) idea. I'm not really sure which is scummier, DB and his policy posts/proposal or Palmar jumping on him so arbitrarily. Especially with Palmar also preemptively defending himself in case we actually kill off DB: On August 20 2011 03:10 Palmar wrote: And of course Nard's post is hella scummy if you flip town, it means he's trying to set me up as a follow up lynch, which is potentially really good for mafia. | ||
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On August 20 2011 09:57 Foolishness wrote: I say we don't kill Palmar today. His goofy attitude can easily be explained that he's town. He just claimed mafia in Personality (let's say he's not lying), which means he just played two games as mafia recently: Personality and PTP2. Both games he attempted to be normal and blend in; there wasn't any of this odd posting. I don't think he would radically change his style like this if he was mafia again. Going to start the count because I know it's coming: # people who accuse me of defending my scumbuddy: 0 Well if you go back a little further to SNMMV, (where he was mafia), you'll see him playing like he is in this game. I'm not saying that he's mafia this game, but basing scum reads solely off of previous games is NOT a reliable way to go. | ||
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On August 20 2011 17:20 Palmar wrote: I think it's kinda scummy to call out Curu on using fuck twice in the same sentence while you have this in your signature... "life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" By the way, BrownBear is the person I want dead today. I'm not sure how to interpret what Foolishness is saying, but at least he's right. woah, woah, woah... BrownBear? I thought you wanted DropBear dead? | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:58 hiro protagonist wrote: Voting Sevryn for now, as a no lynch is bad. how much time is there before the day ends i'll vote for him for more or less the same reason, although he certainly did look somewhat scummy. | ||
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On August 21 2011 06:42 GreYMisT wrote: It stands for "Wine in front of me" its from the movie princess bride. Though i dont understand it completely myself, its a situation that arises that is confusing because of circular logic, for example if bob is being tunneled and the person tunneling him dies at night, you could say well he must be mafia. but the mafia would want you to think that so what if they killed the tunneller to frame bob. but what if bob knew that.... if anyone has an explination that makes more sense please post it On August 21 2011 05:44 Jackal58 wrote: Which choice is that? I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance. I'm confused. What do you mean by this? What exactly has changed that would warrant you changing your vote? The only thing I can see is that he's received the critical mass to actually have a lynch so he'll get lynched even if you change your vote. Are you trying to cover your tracks for if/when he flips green? | ||
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On August 22 2011 02:13 Curu wrote: Don't do that Palmar. We've had one mislynch, this game is far from over. At least you don't have to deal with 99999 post restrictions this game. I'm pretty sure he's being facetious... | ||
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On August 24 2011 07:02 Pyo wrote: had no internet for a day... im caught up to page 55, gonna place my vote on Mig, but i might change it if I finish reading the thread before the deadline. Wow, DT claim into medic claim? I don't think I believe him, but then again, if he's for real, he'll be dead by the hands of the mafia. I'm going to keep my vote on Mig. He's gone with the "I'm burned out on mafia" defense of his posting into one-liners, which is as scummy as anyone else here (except for DB's role claiming). That said, I don't think he's going to get enough votes to actually be lynched. | ||
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On August 24 2011 21:42 Palmar wrote: Do I have to go back to find the post? He wrote a big post about simply being fed up with mafia. I believed him because I've played quite a bit with Mig, enough to know that it's very unlike him to try and use excuses like that if he was scum. He's much more likely to be genuine and be town. In addition, his posting dramatically improved in the latter half of the last tday. but you don't find his change of heart to be scummy? Suddenly starting to put extra effort into posting after having "genuinely" stated that he's burned out – is that part of his meta too? | ||
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On August 25 2011 17:14 Mig wrote: Jackal was convinced chaos was scum and 100% would have followed along with palmar's plan to lynch chaos today. Pretty good motivation to kill someone. I am hunting you down chaos! that is total WIFOM. In fact, isn't this precisely the scenario used to explain how WIFOM in mafia games works? it feels like Mig's grasping at straws here. On August 25 2011 20:56 chaos13 wrote: Oh and in case nobody has realized, we are at LYLO right now. Seems strange with 21 players left, but 6 mafia vs. 15 town with 3 kills each night. If we don't get mafia today it's only a matter of time til it's done. Um... that's not LYLO... we have at least 2 days of no mafia lynches before lylo - not saying that we can afford to keep killing town, but there's no need to panic. "it's only a matter of time til it's done" was just as true before the game even began... Are you trying to blue-fish? Both chaoser and Mig feel scummy to me, although based on their interaction with each other I'm not sure they can both actually be scum. I'll stick with my vote from yesterday. ##vote: Mig | ||
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On August 28 2011 11:11 chaoser wrote: Alright guys, since foolishness has fallen, I fear soon for my life... I am a DT Inquisitor - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are High Inquisitor Scarn, here in liquidia on independent assignment to lead the actions against the cult. You are perhaps the oldest living inquisitor, and with age comes experience and wisdom . You scorn weapons as below the dignity of an Inquisitor, instead you will use your investigative abilities to crush the cult.You may check a player each night and see if he is Innocent or Guilty . Be cautious however, ever since you took a blow to the head while facing off against the Deamon Lord Sepultus in the ancient abandoned temple of the burning flame you have been unsure of the reliability of your investigative abilities and even of your grasp on reality. I checked Mig night one and got back guilty which is why I've been on his ass for so long. To check my own sanity I checked Foolishness night two and got back green so I know I'm sane. When mig flipped red it proved it beyond a doubt. I checked vain last night and got back [r]red[/r]. I say we lynch vain today over since I'm more sure of his scumminess over nard's. EDITTED: in exactly how my pm looks why would you claim now of all times... you have a whole day to push for a vain lynch and now you're dead tonight. Oh well, I guess we should at least make use of your inevitable death and lower mafia kp to 2 and force them to double tap you. #vote: Vain | ||
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On August 30 2011 14:16 wherebugsgo wrote: What info does lynching vain give us? I can't see at any point, where vain has been linked to anyone. Lynching bum first will tell us Pyo is almost definitely mafia. I guess it's just a formality on that, since if we think bum is mafia we don't need to see him flip to know Pyo is mafia, but w/e. Also, if we lynch bum first and he turns out to be the framer then what? What does bum have anything to do with me? Actually, I think it's about time I just go ahead and finally claim... I'm a DT: Inquisitor - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Inquisitor Agmar, while you are fairly young, your actions against the cult of the Weeping Thorns have quickly ascended you to a position of importance, while you are not the most skilled combatant, in this case stealth and investigation, not violence is what is called for. Every night you may investigate a player and see if he is Innocent or Guilty . However ever since you decapitated the Mummy Prince Ozimandious in his tomb and were infected with plagueworms you aren't sure your investigations are reliable, as the pain may have wrapped your perception of reality. Now, I was going to wait a little bit longer to post this (I've been sitting on it for a while now - was waiting to confirm my sanity before saying anything), but I'm convinced that Wherebugsgo is scum, probably Godfather. all of his lynch candidates/pushes have been wrong... sevryn, hiro, iGrok, etc. He only went after Mig when it was extremely likely that he was going to be lynched sooner or later. His long analysis of Mig is pretty damning. Most of his arguments about Mig are really thin and hinge on WIFOM assuming Mig is "a really good player". It was also completely over-kill in terms of what was necessary to convince people at that time. Also just filtering his post you might be convinced that he was the one who initiated the lynch of Mig when in fact he's just going along with it. throughout the game he's been working his way into a leadership position for town, however in reality he's been pushing people that are now confirmed innocent or was just following along with the Mig bandwagon. And now we get to your analysis of bum, which is kind of "huh? really?" Not really sure how you get "i framed Vain" from "I assumed vain would be the good lynch to certify chaoser faster, but if hes gonna get shot tonight anyway it doesn't make a difference to me, both vain and nard are scum." In fact, that little translation was probably your biggest slip up: Translation here: "I assumed that we could lynch vain, who I framed, so that he would flip green. Then we could lynch chaoser tomorrow, and because I'm mafia I know he'd flip blue. During the night we'd kill two other townies in the case vain gets lynched. However, I don't give a shit because I know they're both town, so we can lynch nard instead of vain, chaoser will die tonight in this case and then we do a mislynch anyway tomorrow by lynching vain." so bumatlarge is mafia and knows that both vain and nard are town? Huh, really? how can you even say that? It was pretty clear that Nard is scum thanks to Foolishness. I suppose the possibility of a frame still exists for Vain, but that just seems really far-fetched since it would almost certainly be safer for the mafia to frame one of the scum to appear green than hoping someone happened to investigate your target. I encourage all of you to actually go back and read all of WBG's posts and think about what he's been posting and the timing of his posting. | ||
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On August 31 2011 00:51 Barundar wrote: You are a dt... Who thinks that his prime suspect is the godfather... lol So who did you check what nights and have you established your sanity? And why would you claim during nighttime when no mafia in their right mind would ever shoot the most hardcore lurker? My suspicion of WBG has nothing to do with my blue power, just my analysis of how he's been acting. I've only been in one mafia game that had a godfather before, and he's been acting in a similar manner. As for why claim during nighttime, well exactly because they wouldn't shoot the most hardcore lurker... and because there's another DT claim. Mafia have 2KP so they can't kill us both if there's still a medic. They can try to shoot both of us and one of us will definitely live or they can split their votes and still have one of us definitely live. Claiming right now seems to be perfectly safe. Night 1 - jackal Night 2 - Vain Night 3 - Erandorr As for my sanity, if chaoser is really a DT and really is sane, then I know my sanity as well since we checked Vain on different nights. | ||
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On August 31 2011 01:02 Barundar wrote: Yea vain is mafia, but wbg is clear town. Pyo just outted himself in an attempt to get him killed. If I were mafia and wanted WBG killed, I'd just kill him. | ||
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On August 31 2011 00:55 chaos13 wrote: I'm not liking the skepticism on Vain. It sprung up out of nowhere with very little explanation. I'm thinking mafia is behind it. skepticism on Vain came from WBG and largely due to his rather arbitrary assertion that Bum was the mafia framer who just happened to frame Vain (2 nights in a row apparently). | ||
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