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Micro Tactic: Concave Blinking

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Anachromy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 17:24:49
July 20 2011 01:07 GMT
#1
Hello Fellow TL'ers, I'm posting this demonstration today of a micro tactic which I discovered in one of my games today. I searched all around TL.net and YouTube and found nothing like it, so I figured I'd make a video and share it with all of you.



Video Overview: By setting your stalkers in a concave formation, and using the minimap to blink them as opposed to the main screen, you can maintain a concave while blinking, instead of having the units ball up on you.

The video explains how to perform a concave blink, as well as showing a positive outcome against Siege Tanks as opposed to standard blinking.

Enjoy!

Adding this post to the OP because I felt it was relevant.
On July 20 2011 21:59 SheffiTB wrote:
Guys, the concave blinking doesn't work because you're using the minimap. There is a certain maximum range that the blink can move the stalkers. If you click somewhere closer than max range, the stalkers will clump up, but if you click further away (even on the main screen) they will retain their shape. It's the distance away from the stalkers that you click at that matters, and since he is using the minimap, the distance is obviously larger than the max blink distance. Try it; make a game vs AI on an open map, make some blink stalkers, arrange them in a concave, then use the mainscreen to blink the stalkers, while making sure you are telling them to blink as far away as possible. They will retain their concave. Using the minimap is just more convenient.


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snaerdi
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland70 Posts
July 20 2011 01:14 GMT
#2
woah that's actually pretty good to know. ty
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
July 20 2011 01:16 GMT
#3
O_O this make me very sad as a TvP Mech player. Sick find. Heres a better application. Patrol your stalkers. This spreads them out. Then Concave Blink them into tanks.
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Xation
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada147 Posts
July 20 2011 01:17 GMT
#4
Interesting discovery. I never knew the minimap could be used to blink, I'm gonna have to go and test this out. Thanks!
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Korinai
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada413 Posts
July 20 2011 01:19 GMT
#5
I feel bad for the people that like mech tvp.
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Maximumraver
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands124 Posts
July 20 2011 01:22 GMT
#6
Holy shit, that's awesome! nice find
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norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
July 20 2011 01:25 GMT
#7
ooo wonder why this works. thanks for the heads up. love this community
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Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
July 20 2011 01:34 GMT
#8
Genius! I find it interesting how many interesting unit tactics can be learning from clicking on the minimap. wonder if it's coincidence, or intended.
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Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
July 20 2011 01:36 GMT
#9
This is REALLY useful, holy shit
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
July 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#10
Wooo?

I've been fairly impressed with the results. Though, to be honest, I don't think this will have practical use, except around the 9 minute mark if you went only stalker heavy (there's an awful lot of APM to spend during a fight, force fields, templars, watching your colossi...) Anyway, improving this timing window is still great!

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Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
July 20 2011 01:39 GMT
#11
This is huge. Thanks so much for the video. I'm not sure if this would be patched because it looks really powerful...
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MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
July 20 2011 01:41 GMT
#12
it feels like the 16 stalkers vs 8 siege tanks without conclave blinking would of done a lot better if you didn't just move command them at the end. It felt like during that they could of done 2 volleys of attacks.
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neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
July 20 2011 01:42 GMT
#13
Wow, nice find Anachromy! And way to represent NESC2L ^^
DibujEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Chile130 Posts
July 20 2011 01:42 GMT
#14
Good finding.. but when you think about it it's pretty obvious, how i didn't think of it earlier?
Obviously when you clip on the minimap, the stalkers blink to the farthest the can go.. and because of that they mantain their initial position, or that is what I think.
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0c3LoT
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada162 Posts
July 20 2011 01:43 GMT
#15
Nice move but seems less useful if the tanks actually focus fire.
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Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
July 20 2011 01:45 GMT
#16
maybe it works because when you blink by clicking on a point on the map the stalkers all try to blink towards that specific location but when you click on the minimap they are blinking towards that general direction which keeps the concave.
xlava
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States676 Posts
July 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#17
Such a good find nice job thank you.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 20 2011 01:51 GMT
#18
Wow, this looks like it could be very useful and powerful in the hands of the right player. good find!
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CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 01:54:27
July 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#19
On July 20 2011 10:45 Gattaca.usa wrote:
maybe it works because when you blink by clicking on a point on the map the stalkers all try to blink towards that specific location but when you click on the minimap they are blinking towards that general direction which keeps the concave.


That is correct.

The thing that intrigues me is application toward whole army. What if you A-move at the other side of the minimap, your concave would be much better versus amoving on top of their army. Right?
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iSupaSam
Profile Joined April 2010
United States8 Posts
July 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#20
On July 20 2011 10:16 GinDo wrote:
O_O this make me very sad as a TvP Mech player. Sick find. Heres a better application. Patrol your stalkers. This spreads them out. Then Concave Blink them into tanks.



Wouldn't that just be "Spread Blink" or Patrol + "Edge-of-minimap blink" instead of concave blink?
And in the end wouldn't the stalkers at the back just come closer to the tanks and end up hugging all the other stalkers again causing the annoying ball again?
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