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Introduction to Board Gaming
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 17:29:54
June 28 2011 15:33 GMT
#1
Board games, who hasn't played a game of Monoply as a child? Who hasn't at one time or the other flung the Risk board through the room after his entire family, even his dad that promised he wouldn't atacked, stabbed him in the back.

Today, being somewhat older, most people seem to forget about boardgames, some consider it boring, some would call it an inferior medium compared to video games and yet even more would call it entertainment for nerds. In the natural order of things it is normal people that call starcraft 2 players nerds but it is starcraft 2 players that laugh at the back of the boardgamers. Truly we are the lowest on the social ladder, but perhaps undeserved? Afterall is a boardgame not enjoyed sitting around the table sharing witty banter as one proceeds to construct a farm, raise armies or construct a railroad, whatever the theme might be.

Truth be told i like when a new game is released, a game i have looked forward to for a long time but there really isn't anything like buying a new boardgame and going over the individual pieces, often crafted with the greatest of care.


Now this isn't a thread dedicated to my love of boardgames both old and new, but rather a thread for like minded people to share their love of boardgames and to hopefully entice a few more people to endulge in the world of boardgames.

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The average kind of person that you can expect to find at a session of boardgaming.


An always important part of getting into boardgaming is finding out what boardgame is right for you. The type of boardgame depends on what you like and what your possible companions like. Dropping down a game of Arkham Horror for a bunch of people expecting Monoply is never a good idea.

Still, just because people expect Monoply doesn't mean you should give them Monopoly. Here are a few games expected to be suitable for the Monoply-crowd whilst at the same time involving a little more player contribution then rolling a dice and saying yes or no to a property purchase. Most of the games ill mention here are games i own myself, a few i will place here just out of fame.

Beginner games

Settlers of Catan

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Settlers of Catan is a pretty well known boardgame and rightly so. It's easy to explain and easy to play yet at the same time it makes players get involved, it allows players to make long term plans and influence the degree of luck involved.

In Settlers of Catan the goal is to, as one might guess, settle the island of Catan. By placing towns and cities adjacent to resources players increase the liklihood of obtaining those resources wich are in turn used to construct roads, towns and cities. All of these things are worth points and the first player to obtain 10 points wins the game. An average game will last you about 2 hours. It is quite family friendly in the fact that no player can ever be knocked out of the game. Nothing spoils the fun as quikly as a person sitting at the table moaning about how he is out of the game and how it's unfair.


Agricola

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Agricola is a game that revolves around building a farm. The theme itself might sound dull but the game itself is anything but. The game is quite popular within the world of boardgaming as a new-player friendly boardgame, and in my opinion even better then Settlers. It hasn't however achieved the same fame as Settlers.

The theme of the game is building a farm as stated earlier, but the actuall gameplay revolves around carefully planning your next moves. As the game progresses the harvesting rotations become more and more frequent and you find yourself stressed in choosing between expanding your farm and feeding your family. The game soon gives you the feeling of having to juggle a dozen balls and you know that dropping a single one means the whole damn thing is gonna come crashing down on you.

This game is also very friendly in that it doesn't allow players to be knocked out of the game, it only works with a point system. The only off-putting factor for some is that there is very little direct interaction. Players build their own farms and fight somewhat over who gets to the resources first but there is very little direct interaction.

A huge plus for the game is it's scaleability. It's rules allow for a very basic game and a massively complex game. In the very simply rules you won't be needing much of each other but the more complex the game gets, the more options people get for screwing each other over. The downside is somewhat fixed as the game gets more complex but at the same time the more complex it gets, the more it loses it's charm of being a simply and acceseable game. But as stated, you can scale it perfectly to the crowd that gathers at the table.


Carcassonne

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Carcassone is a game of placing tiles. Once again i warn you not to let such a brief theme description put you off. Again a friendly game in that it also works by points and never knocks players permanently out of the game.

Personally i never cared much for it, but i have found that many players do enjoy it quite a bit and it is rather popular so i felt that despite my feelings it did deserve a mention. In Carcassonne players take turns placing tiles adjacent to other tiles and slowly but surely spell out a map. The game can be explained in less then 5 minutes but then again, so can chess.

The only rule for placing tiles is that they have to "make sense". A road does not sudenly transition into a city and a city does not have a field of grass in the center.

As players place tiles they get to place their peoples on a tile and when the image that said tile paints out is completed (like a city completly finished) a player collects all the points, counted by the number of tiles in total and modified by the type of tiles (cities are worth more then roads for example).

The trick is that a player cannot remove his peoples and as a result players begin to wage the benefits and downsides to placing their tiles in order to finish their own creations and collect points, or place tiles in such a strange fashion that it becomes very difficult for other players to finish their creations, if not outright impossible at times. A clever game of manipulating the playing field and trapping the other players pieces.


Advanced games

These games i call advanced but the title can be deceptive. Some of these games involve a greater strategic depth then the beginner games but for some it is the theme that i consider "advanced". The truth is that your mom isn't likely to be intrested in waging intergalactic warfare but wouldn't mind building a farm.


Cosmic encounter

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Cosmic encounter is an old game, several decades old to be exact. In this game of intergalactic warfare players attempt to establish a total of 5 colonies on foreign planets.

Despite it's theme this game revolves around mind games. As far as mind games go i have never played a game that captures it so perfectly. The game comes down to bluffing, double bluffing or being an idiot, not bluffing, whilst your opponent thinks your bluffing, and winning anyway.

Players attempt to use atack cards and negotiate cards to fight their way to galactic victory. Forging alliances when they need them and stabbing people in the back when they are done with them.

The theme of the game can be offputting to some but all the times i have played the game people grasped it within 10 minutes of playing. A game lasts about 1 hour and is easily played several times in a night.

The twist that makes Cosmic such an amazing game is the addition of aliens. Each player receives a unique alien race that they play. Each alien race has a unique power wich changes how the player should play and this makes every game completly different. What about an alien race that has to lose in order to win? What about an alien race that wins when it has lost all of it's ships? The addition of alien races makes the game completly unique everytime you play is and provides near infinite replayability.


Axis and Allies

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If i had to sum up Axis and Allies, and i feel like i have to, it would have to be Risk on steroids. It has more rules, more pieces, more dices and more theme then Risk. Where in Risk each player takes on the role of a nameless dictator bent on world domination fighting against similarly shadowy figures, everyone players very specfic countries in this boardgame of world domination.

Three players take on the role of America, England and Russia as the Allied forces. Two players take on the role of Germany and Japan as the Axis forces.

If i had to critique this game for anything it is that perhaps it is a bit to historically accurate. Germany get's to have all the fun and field massive armies wich he will naturally shove down Russia's throat as Russia tries to field a massive army of soldiers in an attempt to halt an enemy who has tanks.

Japan gets to smack America around for a turn or two but quikly finds himself on the receiving end of the pain stick. England will find that with all of it's colonies it is actually best off just building a lot of planes and bombarding the shit out of Germany.

So basically, just like history. The problem is that you will find most of your games to go like that. Axis and Allies is a fun game to play but after 5 games you will have seen most of the variations and after that people will have to force themselves to do some crazy things to spur things up.

Still, if you are a fan of alternative history then it's a fun game. What happens if Germany invades the UK? What if Japan invades Russia? There are certainly some variations to be done before things get repetitive.


Dominion

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Domion can be called a collectable card game without the steep price, but that would be silly.

Domion is a very popular game but also very acceseable. Just like all the games in the beginner section nobody can be knocked out of the game before it ends. So why is it in the advanced section? Well that's because it's a card game, and not everyone loves playing with cards. Personally i love cards but i can understand that a game that comes with 200+ cards and that's it, it can be scary.

In Dominion everyone begins with the same cards, a few copper cards wich can be used to buy cards. At the start of the game there are 10 stacks of 10 different cards face up on the table. Every game can have a different combination of cards because each set of Domion has 25 different cards and 10 of each.

Players shuffle their tiny deck and draw a starting hand of cards. They then use their money cards (copper, silver, gold) to buy some cards from the table and add these to their deck. When the deck is fully depleted they give it a good shake and draw again. This process repeats for everyone and slowly but surely the decks begin to bulge and more importantly, they begin to diverge.

There are many styles of decks that players can construct. Some players might like the kind of decks that can quikly grow, others like decks that consist mostly of high priced cards. Some other players might enjoy building massive decks that are so smoothly constructed that they can take more then 50 different actions every game. And yet again other players might prefer a deck of cards that does little more then fuck over their fellow players. It's intresting to see how each player goes into a different direction and how each deck works off each other.

Disregarding the fact that it's a card game, it's no more difficult to learn then most of the beginner games.


Mansions of madness

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You have to understand i adore mansions of madness. No i LOVE mansions of madness. The theme of this game is itself the biggest selling point.

The game takes place in the world of H.P Lovecraft. Not everyone is familiar with his writing but those that are often adore the thick gloomy atmosphere. For those not familiar H.P Lovecraft was a writer who is best known for his horror writing and his particular style. His horror did not focus on gore and shock but rather the fraility of the human mind. Terror and fear stood at the center of his writing as his human protoganists attempted to battle star born gods so alien that simply seeing them would drive most men insane. The famous Cthulu for example, is his creation.

In this game for 5 players a team of 4 investigators attempt to find their way through a mansion as one player taking the role of overlord attempts to make their life a litteral living nightmare. Investigators might one game find themselves flooded by zombies and the next victim to monsters from a different dimension. All the while investigators run through the mansion searching for clues to unravel the mystery.

All the while a thick layer of theme is spread all across the game. Combat is resolved via cards that explain exactly what happens in short, yet well written pieces of story. One needs not be a great roleplayer or a dungeon and dragons veteran to visualise their investigator ripping off a monsters tentacle with this bare hands as the gore sprays across his face.

The game has two downsides. The settup time is a bitch with a good half hour for each scenario. The second downside is the fact that each game of mansions consists of carefully constructing a scenario, aka the story you are playing. The problem with this is that you only get 5 stories in the box. We went through these 5 stories in little more then 3 weeks and after that it's just not as much fun. There isn't a lot of excitement if you allready know the story. Expansions are on the way but truth be told, i feel like they should have just given me more scenarios right out of the box.

Upsides are that this is probably the best themed game in the world and the miniatures are god damn incredible. I don't hype all that much about game pieces but holy shit, these are incredible. I can only imagine how great the game would look if someone took the time to paint them.


Descent

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To round all of this off is a game that i don't actually own yet but hope to soon do. You can call this game Dungeons and Dragons light or maybe Diablo the boardgame. This is a game of dungeon exploring, killing monsters and getting phat lewt.

Each player takes on the role of a hero and in a party of 4 you attempt to make your way through a dungeon whilst one player being the overlord (yes, same company) controls the dungeons. From it's traps to it's monsters the overlord attempts to kill the heroes at every turn.

For those intrested in the game i might add that i have been told that it's best played with an expansion called Road to Legend wich turns the game from loose dungeons into an overarching storyline where players cross over a worldmap in a campaign against the overlord that can last many months.

I am afraid i can't tell all that much more since i don't actually own it yet.



That took a long time but let's hope it was worth it. I shall leave it on a final tip, read the rule book, practice explaining the rules, and keep it under 10-15 minutes. Last thing you want to do is bore the people out of your house when you went through blood sweat and tears just to get them to sit around and player a boardgame with you.

These were the games i felt most important to share but i have a few more in my collection and even some good ones that really aught to be mentioned. I shall keep those for later posts. Meanwhile i hope that everyone that loves boardgames as much as i do proceeds to discuss their own favorite games and i hope many more people can get intrested in this often ignored hobby.
Tachyon
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark146 Posts
June 28 2011 15:41 GMT
#2
Why didn't the list include chess? =(
Best board game ever made, and most complex.
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Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
June 28 2011 15:44 GMT
#3
Why didn't you add vin diesel, he played D&D, which is allso kindof a board game. Him and his character Melcor had some epic adventures.
Saraf
Profile Joined April 2011
United States160 Posts
June 28 2011 15:46 GMT
#4
Agricola is absolutely *not* a beginner's game; it's a lot more in-depth than one might realize and is not the best way to initiate people into the world of board games. That said, it is an *amazing* game and I play it as often as I can. Power Grid is another outstanding game (though stay away from the "Factory" version, it has nothing to do with the actual game). Yet another recommendation I'd like to throw out is Arkham Horror, a co-op game for 1-8 players in which you save (or fail to save) the world from Lovecraftian old ones.

If anyone is interested in learning about cool games, boardgamegeek.com is a great place to look.
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 28 2011 15:49 GMT
#5
Excellent post. You have piqued my interest in a few of these games.
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RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
June 28 2011 15:50 GMT
#6
I love memoir '44
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Also, I love Axis & Allies. But good luck getting anyone to play that game... x.x
ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
June 28 2011 15:52 GMT
#7
Yeah my problem is that my friends just aren't interested in sitting down to play a board game for 5 hours. I would love to get a game of Risk going: I own a board but have never actually played a proper game because no-one wants to play with me

Feels bad man.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
June 28 2011 15:54 GMT
#8
Those hooters are stupid huge.
ot: Very nice post!! I have played Settlers many many times and really like that game. I've heard day9 talk of dominion but have never heard/experienced anything to do with it elsewhere and I've also heard of axis&allies but never played. MoM and Descent look really complex! I'm not sure if I'll ever play those games, but thanks for teaching me something new
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Bagonad
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark173 Posts
June 28 2011 15:55 GMT
#9
Excellent post, i enjoyed reading through this even though i will probably never play any of them, it's not easy to keep people interested in things they have no knowledge about for long.
Hargol
Profile Joined April 2011
United States52 Posts
June 28 2011 15:58 GMT
#10
On June 29 2011 00:41 Tachyon wrote:
Why didn't the list include chess? =(
Best board game ever made, and most complex.


Actually Go is much older, better and infinitely more complex than chess
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 28 2011 15:59 GMT
#11
I recently watched http://cinemassacre.com/2011/06/10/board-james-key-to-the-kingdom/ and was ridiculously excited. I never wanted to play a boardgame as much as I wanted to play that, it seemed like... Like fun. Goold old clean fun. Kindergarden fun, before you became self-aware and started noticing shit.
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 28 2011 15:59 GMT
#12
Out of the games you listed I've only played a&a to any real extent, and I enjoyed it (Played settlers once, but only for half an hour and no one knew what they were doing, and Carcassonne once but i didn't like it). I couldn't find people to play often, so I invested in the 1997 computer game. Definitely worth $4.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
June 28 2011 15:59 GMT
#13
A Game of Thrones
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It basically takes the intrigue and lack of random from diplomacy and merges it with more fun things like bidding for special abilities, and having character cards with effects to make battles more interesting.

Also Lannister is overpowered because they have to be able to fight a 3vs1 and stalemate :p
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RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
June 28 2011 16:02 GMT
#14
On June 29 2011 00:59 Osmoses wrote:
I recently watched http://cinemassacre.com/2011/06/10/board-james-key-to-the-kingdom/ and was ridiculously excited. I never wanted to play a boardgame as much as I wanted to play that, it seemed like... Like fun. Goold old clean fun. Kindergarden fun, before you became self-aware and started noticing shit.

I love watching board james. I want to try that weapons and warriors game.
chomsky
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada97 Posts
June 28 2011 16:03 GMT
#15
Some (most) of those games look incredibly complicated. Don't you get bored of playing a game that requires so much setup? I'm a Scrabble guy myself
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RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
June 28 2011 16:06 GMT
#16
On June 29 2011 01:03 chomsky wrote:
Some (most) of those games look incredibly complicated. Don't you get bored of playing a game that requires so much setup? I'm a Scrabble guy myself

Nope. These games are always really exciting if you can play them with a group of friends that you know won't get red in the face and flip the table.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
June 28 2011 16:07 GMT
#17
Me and my friends have probably played at least 150 games of agricola. Have tried some of the other games here, but agricola keeps us entertained because of the great variation each playthrough. There are so many cards that create an almost unlimited amount of combinations that affect the game greatly.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
June 28 2011 16:09 GMT
#18
My all time favorite:

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GREAT multiplayer game/tons of fun/infinite possibilites of outcomes.


On June 29 2011 00:41 Tachyon wrote:
Why didn't the list include chess? =(
Best board game ever made, and most complex.


I think Chess was excluded cause it's a 2 player board game.
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DarQraven
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 16:11:38
June 28 2011 16:10 GMT
#19
Not a huge fan of Catan, but the other games on that list are pretty good!
Also, when you get Descent, I advise you to add these houserules:
1. Players get 2 minutes of discussion/swapping items/planning time, before their turn, after that they can't change plans anymore. For every 10 seconds of time they discuss longer, the Overlord gets a threat token. I wouldn't say forbidden to talk during their turns (it is a game played for fun, after all), but definitely don't allow them to think up a completely new plan after every failed dice roll.
2. Use D20's or some other form of marker for your health and fatigue tokens. You'll be moving these around so often it tends to get messy and take long.

These two rules can speed up play tremendously, and shouldn't affect actual gameplay or enjoyment thereof negatively at all. The problem is when you're playing Descent, an already long-ass game, with people who micromanage every single turn down to the detail and then reset their plans as soon as they get one roll that isn't good enough. If they have to declare their actions before they start their turn, you avoid having some players draw every turn out into a 20-minute ordeal.

Before those changes, we'd regularly need 6-7 hours just to play one short mission. We can now do those same missions in 3 hours.

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Another boardgame people here might like is Space Alert. It's very different from typical boardgames in that it utilizes a CD track to set the pace of the game - it's a real-time strategy boardgame.
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Basic idea: You're 3-5 crewmembers on a spaceship. It's under attack. Go and survive for 13 turns.

You do this by manipulating energy through the ship and using this energy to fire weapons, charge shields and launch missiles, as well as guide combat droids to internal threats and defects.
The way this is accomplished is by laying down 'planning cards' (move left, use elevator, action A, action B, etc) simultaneously, while the CD track is playing and announcing threats left and right.

After 10 minutes of intense teamwork, communication and crisis management, you reset the board to its initial state, turn over the player's cards and resolve the actions.
During this phase (which is not timed), you get to see if your masterplan that you've so hastily set up ...actually works. (Read: You get to see how badly you failed.)
Points are awarded upon survival for certain feats, but just completing a mission is a feat upon itself.


Do play
- If you like cooperative games
- If you like a bit of controlled chaos, frantic teamwork and working under pressure.
- If you're up for a challenge
- If you're looking for the perfect middle ground between boardgames and videogames.

Don't play
- If you don't like failing
- If you have players in your group that can't see the fun in being the one that accidentally killed the entire crew, or seeing someone else do that.
- If you have neighbors. They -will- be woken up once an enemy attacks your middle deck, destroying the elevator and disrupting your entire plan for the mission.

One of my favorite games to play.

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Bragging mode: Current collection:
- Dominion + Intrige
- Catan + Cities and Knights
- Carcassonne
- Mr Jack
- Descent
- Puerto Rico
- Agricola
- Risk
- Heroscape RotV, BftU.
- Saboteur
- Space Alert
- Citadels + Dark lands expansion
- Roborally
- Chess

I think Chess was excluded cause it's a 2 player board game.

It's also nowhere near as approachable as these other games, and genuinely takes some learning before the actual game starts being fun.
Ahmose
Profile Joined May 2011
United States21 Posts
June 28 2011 16:14 GMT
#20
Boardgames I've always played (excluding RPGs, because some people use grids) are

Risk
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Think of Monopoly war style.

Hero's Quest

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An OLD boardgame that you'd probably find only on ebay now... I still have my set from when I was a child. It's very addictive and challenging.

ZOMBIES!!!

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I bought all of these expansions and the core game. It's a unique play and fun to screw over your opponents.
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