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On June 27 2011 23:09 Eternalmisfit wrote: /out  I would love to play in this one but I am concerned about my availability around the 4th of July weekend and it looks like that the game will start before it. If it was any other mafia game, I might have played through the weekend through my phone but considering Real-time mafia would need more active participation than other mafia's, I would prefer to not do that. | ||
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On June 28 2011 04:59 Varpulis wrote: We're full again! I like to express myself in the form of pictures + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://files.sharenator.com/fuck_yeah_RE_Not_the_sexy_post_Id_promised_but-s400x317-164482.jpg) | ||
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Here are my thoughts on some of the players Gmarshall: is generating some discussion witch is good. Though i found it strange that he wouldn't discuss his list but is fine discussing to or not to kill lurkers. He is painting himself as pro-town and plays like that. If he really is creating a good town atmosphere we'll see in time. If we are lynching scum all the time it's fine but when the town mislynching all the time we should really consider lynching or shooting him. As a dt you could decide to check him but if he's mafia there's a strong chance he is the gf. youngminii: town in my eyes. Usually mafia isn't that aggressive and attention-pulling. Sandroba: Also a bit agressive. Seems town Hyaach: only fluff posts till now I'm not doing more for the sake of discussing a few at one point. Usually long lists containing lots people are forgotten before someone finishes reading it. | ||
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On June 28 2011 19:46 Hyaach wrote: and this is purely just my newbie-ness speaking but where can i see all the abbreviation people are using? I don't have a com with me 24/7 on weekdays so my real time mafia isnt that real time . http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page There, now stop cluttering the thread. I like to reach page 50 later than sooner. | ||
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On June 29 2011 00:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: That is correct. It was a fair question. This is a good way to encourage someone to end up on the lurker list Vain  It was indeed a fair question. But four consuquensive posts whereas 3 are just 2 line question/remarks just hurt my eyes. I'm still not used to losing my precious ALL button I that we are pressuring someone but let's not jump to conclusions too fast and make an irreversible bandwagon. In my opinion hiro protagonist is just as good as a target but we'll see how it goes. | ||
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On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote: Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game ) And then goes to vote: On June 28 2011 22:25 Drazerk wrote: ##Vote: Sinani206 So, first he states one guy is scum and then he's like: "oh nvm that ill vote for the OTHER GUY" wat | ||
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The reasons you give for currently voting on him are: 1: since I want to see you tick 2: Pointing out scum Of all people you should know that random finger pointing is not really a scumtell *coughkurumicough* and that there are better targets than TAA. At least now we have some discussion going on and not just pro/against lurker killing. | ||
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On June 29 2011 05:34 Palmar wrote: Why does your town play always consist of soft defending and asking questions? Or is that your scum play too? Fuck. I was waiting for him to post a bit more of that stuff before i layed down my analysis of him. But now you attended it to him i will post what i have now. These are all the posts of chaos13 the ones which are in my opinion not very interesting are labeled as such. + Show Spoiler [fluff] + On June 28 2011 12:05 chaos13 wrote: Lurkers should be shot wherever and whenever possible. It may mean that our DT's lurker checks are not as effective (or should not be used at all even), but the activity levels will make up for that. Lurkers don't do us any good. This will also remove a very common, very effective mafia tactic, and force the inexperienced players, who would naturally gravitate towards lurking, to actually contribute, and therefore be more likely to slip up. This means we don't have to worry about pressuring lurkers or inactives, as roles will take care of it. Therefore, our Day 1 priority needs to be creating a good pro-town atmosphere. This means not making random accusations, and not spamming and posting one-liners. Keep your contributions quality rather than quantity. Do not be afraid of the lurker list and post every single thought you have if it isn't relevant. Let's make it so mafia cannot hide due to us just being too damn pro-town. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 12:24 chaos13 wrote: Calling youngminii scum and more fluff + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 12:31 chaos13 wrote: Laying words in youngminii's mouth, which to me is at the least not a very nice thing to do. Mind that he states GM is very, very pro-town. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote: Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first. He askes for a list. that's it. Although he gives an explanation for it, it is hardly a contribution. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 13:30 chaos13 wrote: Isn't this pointing out the obvious? why say this when you can keep this piece of information to yourself and bring it to the board when we ARE in that situation? Now the mafia can just say: "yeah *insert vet* is still alive because the mafia know the town is going to kill the remaining vets as pointed out by chaos13". + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 03:18 chaos13 wrote: 1: I think the bandwagon on GMarshal is stupid and ridiculous. He has been more vocal and pro-town than anyone else in the game so far, and has clearly demonstrated that he is not afraid to be questioned, pressured, and is willing to share his thoughts and opinions. I would suggest DT roles go take a look if there are any players who subtly called him scummy and then let others pick up the bandwagon. Those are the people you should probably check today. 2: theAwesomeAll - You're doing a lot of weak FoS'ing and fingerpointing, but you are at least trying to come up with a case for each one. What I suggest you do is calm down a bit and really start analyzing those players and come up with a solid case, and for today just focus on one or two. However, you've shown that you are active and ready to share your thoughts, so I think you are most likely town. 3: youngminii - I'm still not comfortable with you. Yes, you improved your FoS' slightly, but they're still flying all over the place and still targeting seemingly random players. I would give you the same advice I suggested to theAwesomAll. Get more evidence before you accuse someone. 4: Sinani206 - Lots of fluff from you, little of substance. I would like to see more opinions from you on other players. All I can recall at the moment is discussion of lurkers/game mechanics and other safe topics. 5: Jackal58 - He isn't as active as usual, but I felt that his one post was very pro-town. At the point he made it we had fallen into a mess discussing lurkers when that topic had already been resolved at the beginning of the game, and he stopped this. As town he loves making angry posts about how dumb town is being, and they almost always serve to get discussion back on track. 6: One thing I feel needs to be mentioned: We have five different people with 1-2 votes each on them. This won't do us any good, since scum can support any one of those arguments and make a sly vote that won't put them in the spotlight. We need to keep our lynch candidates to a small number so that scum are pressured to make a decision. This is the post that made me write the analysis. I numbered the different parts for commenting. 1: this is the THIRD time he's defending Gmarshall. It's like he's some sort of demi-God for him. Why would he care so much if there are some people are voting for Gmarshall? Futhermore 2 people is hardly a bandwagon. Then tips our detectives to go and look for people accusing him but not pointing out who. man that's usefull. 2,3,4: Nothing too special here(or informative) 5: Well, he like Jackal that's for sure. Sucks his conclusion is totally flawed. You can even look it up. It was not Jackal who diverted discussion away from the lurker discussion. If you go back in the thread you will see that it was Dropbear and Drazerk who guided discussion to sinai206&201. 6: Fluff + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 05:33 chaos13 wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll. What do you think of syllogism and sinani206? Well he is accusing someone but its not that he is doing it. It is HOW he does it. This is like the softest accusation in the thread jet. If i were Vain(oh wait, i am) i would be surely trembling on my feet. Yeah, he accuses me but i could have just ignored him and no one would ever know because when i start posting again everything will be fine again>.< + Show Spoiler + [QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:39 chaos13 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:34 Palmar wrote: [QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:33 chaos13 wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll. What do you think of syllogism and sinani206? Why does your town play always consist of soft defending and asking questions? Or is that your scum play too?[/QUOTE] That's just the way I roll as town. I generally ask questions without revealing my opinion first so I can compare someone's thoughts to mine. If I have a town read and people are attacking them, I'll generally defend them so we can avoid a bad lynch. When I find someone I think is scum, I'll make an analysis on them. However, I'm also happy to answer any questions directed towards me. I won't hold back my opinions. I've only played one game as scum before, but my play in it consisted of attacking lurkers and being the town leader. I also voted for inactives/lurkers so I wouldn't have to be accountable for voting someone who flipped town. My play styles are very different.[/QUOTE] And i refreshed the thread again. Meh, i would write this off as just fluff again. Now if we look at the total picture(after you have read ALL of it). We see someone who is softly accusing people, doesn't have much content but many words, is drawing wrong conclusions. So... This Guy Is Scum | ||
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On June 29 2011 05:59 Palmar wrote: He did this as town in PTP Vain, just sayin' But yes, I don't like that style at all. Could be but i'm not just throwing away all my conclusions just because he played like this in PTP. My conclusion was he is scum and i stick to it | ||
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On June 29 2011 06:18 Varpulis wrote: um, the lurker discussion ended ages ago. You might want to catch up fully before yelling at people to stop doing something that they're no longer doing. Also, there are in fact some lurkers. (Hi Kenpachi) We're just not talking about them. We are instead discussing who to lynch. What do you think of syllogism? Oh, i don't know, What do you think about chaos13? Haven't you read what Sandroba wrote? On June 29 2011 01:04 sandroba wrote: Okay, go read syllogism big post about medics optmization and ask yourself if it makes sense for mafia to be posting that. Now go DT check drazek, because he's scum. He made one thoughtful post and for the rest has been defending himself and hasn't posted anything full of fluff. Not a very great chance to be scum if you ask me. | ||
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On June 29 2011 06:39 Cthsazsa wrote: I've failed to see why syllogism/GM/TAA/Sinani/Nisani/Jackal are good lynch targets. I've been reading in between all of these page-long posts (The huge ass arguments between GM and TAA make it oh-so-harder >_> ), and the only person that plainly sticks out to me is Drazerk. I'm going to go back and read each of his posts. I'm thinking of doing a PbP analysis because honestly, I'm getting red vibes from this dude. I don't know about you but no one is talking about GM/TAA/Jackal anymore, the other two are not really under discussion now. Last page was about syllogism. Ok, now what do you guys think about chaos13? | ||
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On June 30 2011 06:48 Drazerk wrote: More Whishy washy scum posting? Get a suspect and commit to it. this is just fluff buying you enough times for people in Europe to go to sleep unable to change votes Well it took him more then a few minutes so i'm not waiting anymore. Since i do not believe everyone will go vote crash13 i will remove my vote from him and vote for VE. I don't really think drazek has a really strong case against him. The martyring may look against him but when i read several other opinions i'm not really sure its a scumtell. VE on the other hand is playing way different than in other games which could be an indication of a non town aligned role. I've gone trough his posts again and again and find what Gmarshall stated not much opinion from him. Not taking stances is a scumtell to me and with this being day one this should be the best lead we have. | ||
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On June 30 2011 22:36 Palmar wrote: how about we lynch either mig or dropbear? I don't really know. drazerk and dropbear were buddying up for the sinai lynch. That doesn't really happen often between scums just because its suspicous. | ||
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On July 01 2011 01:58 chaos13 wrote: So let's see. A mafioso posing as a DT would have access to alignment, but not role. How convenient. Here is what I suggest. In the last 6 hours of day, you reveal the role Varp returned. He then confirms it or refutes it. If he refutes it, we lynch you because you're scum. If he confirms it, you either had a lucky guess or you're actually a DT. Does this work for everyone? That's actually not a bad idea. But what if they're both scum? | ||
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On July 01 2011 02:10 chaos13 wrote: This. My plan is much more efficient now that a roleblocker is dead. It depends on the setup, but if they even have a roleblocker left, there is just one of them. This means that even if varp is blue and you have to out him, they have to choose between him and a DT to block. Medics, be on your game. Be ready to protect varp/viscera right as day 3 begins. Let's hope you're in the right time zone to do so Yo, lets discuss this plan at the last 6 hours of the day. we still have lynch targets to discuss and the mafia still has killing power to fuck us over with. | ||
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On July 01 2011 14:53 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Yeah, the kill on Varp doesn't tell us much about visc's alignment: If visc is mafia: -He doesn't know Varp's role, and so mafia need to kill him to hide that fact If visc is a DT: -Mafia don't want a confirmed townie running around -Mafia want it to look like the first case I'm actually expecting stuff like this to continue happening with visc's checks. The best thing to do, will be to lie about who you're checking, and add some WIFOM for the mafia, for if they should kill who you say, and then unless you get a red check, don't bother revealing until the last six hours, unless people are pushing for an innocent lynch. My two cents about subsequent checks. This, just say the guy is townie for all we know. It's much better to not reveal if he's blue or not. Now it was pretty obvious he had a blue role so we still don't know the incentive why he was shot. Nice bomb though varp;) | ||
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On July 03 2011 03:16 syllogism wrote: Vain didn't even vote yesterday? What | ||
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