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cattypakes
Profile Joined January 2011
6 Posts
June 18 2011 09:21 GMT
#1
Title says it all. I'm a diamond-level SC2 protoss (so, pretty bad ._.), and after watching a bunch of VODs of boxer, iloveoov, savior, jaedong, july, flash, bisu, etc. I went out and bought the SC1 battle chest and am gonna make a concerted effort to play and (hopefully) get good at BW!

That said, I know that BW is a lot harder for me as an SC2 player. I won't have any luxuries like MBS, infinite unit selection, automining, etc. and I'm willing to accept all of those things as part of the game. That said, what else about BW will I need to know that I probably won't know as an SC2 player?


Thanks in advance!
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
June 18 2011 10:07 GMT
#2
The most obvious thing (besides the things you've listed) as that the units are different, and as such you might find yourself preferring a different race. Try all of the races when you first start out, then stick with one you feel comfortable with for at least some period of time.
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
June 18 2011 12:03 GMT
#3
There is no AMM, so be prepared to get stomped 100 games before you get your first win.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 18 2011 12:20 GMT
#4
Winging builds will mostly likely get you killed a lot of times. In SC2, the build orders are a bit more flexible and follow ups are copious and abundant.

There are set choices in BW, however, that you need to stick to if you want to stay alive long enough.
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Korinai
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada413 Posts
June 18 2011 12:21 GMT
#5
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Main_Page

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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
June 18 2011 13:50 GMT
#6
You will have your bases much faster saturated than in SC2, because workers work harder here .
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
June 18 2011 14:22 GMT
#7
p for probes
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 18 2011 15:08 GMT
#8
4 pools are actually effective here, seriously pic a good build and use it well, if you don`t use a good build you`ll probly just get rolled.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9777 Posts
June 18 2011 17:02 GMT
#9
That huge explosion that just shattered your ears and made you think you lost is actually a siege tank. That little bubbly sound that you thought was from a siege tank was actually from a vulture.
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1704 Posts
June 18 2011 17:56 GMT
#10
Yep, it's gonna take a big effort. Liquipedia is very good (I've come across people who don't understand the concept of build orders very well), make sure you get the details right! It's a while before you can adapt them, you have to really know the deal.

Pick a race, and practice it like mad. Don't expect to win even vaguely reliably any time soon- but the reward of the games you do win will be so worth it, if you feel your play improve on the way up.
EleGant[AoV]
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 18 2011 18:11 GMT
#11
there are location hotkeys f2 f3 f4 u can press to "hotkey" an area of ground such as your main gateway/rax/hatchery cluster and your choke point. sadly i did not see this in sc2, no idea why.
aka DragOn[NaS]
oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 18:40:01
June 18 2011 18:38 GMT
#12
On June 19 2011 03:11 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
there are location hotkeys f2 f3 f4 u can press to "hotkey" an area of ground such as your main gateway/rax/hatchery cluster and your choke point. sadly i did not see this in sc2, no idea why.
Location hotkeys exist in sc2. They are f5 and onwards by default, but you can customize them to f1,f2,f3,f4 if you want. (also, it's ctrl+f5, instead of shift by default)
Dymond
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada138 Posts
June 18 2011 20:03 GMT
#13
On June 18 2011 21:03 Navane wrote:
There is no AMM, so be prepared to get stomped 100 games before you get your first win.


Literally, I'm 0-86.
fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
June 18 2011 20:07 GMT
#14
Also, some units are dumb. And I mean really dumb. The AI is old, but that actually just adds to the challenge. Don't get upset, practice!
Drayne
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada239 Posts
June 19 2011 06:38 GMT
#15
hmm, either go zerg and 4 pool OR play protoss... dont EVER pick terran, if you do pick terran dont EVER go bio... But i think protoss is better for starting in BW period, you can use reaver drops, DTs, Storms and early zealots and win a bunch of game, zerg defilers with darkswarm and consume is hard on the apm, terran mines and bio is very hard on apm also..
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
June 19 2011 10:19 GMT
#16
On June 18 2011 23:22 sixfour wrote:
p for probes


This doesn't make any sense.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
June 19 2011 10:27 GMT
#17
Its going to take a lot of work and probably 2-3 weeks of constant work before you earn yourself your first win. The mechanics of bw to me will be quite hard to get used to since you played sc2 from the start.
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
June 19 2011 10:29 GMT
#18
On June 19 2011 19:19 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 23:22 sixfour wrote:
p for probes


This doesn't make any sense.


in short, he's trying to say, constant unit production (probes), to improve on game mechanics and macro
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
June 19 2011 11:43 GMT
#19
On June 19 2011 19:19 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 23:22 sixfour wrote:
p for probes


This doesn't make any sense.


when i first picked up sc2 i was confused that probes were on a different key
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
June 19 2011 12:58 GMT
#20
On June 19 2011 20:43 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 19:19 blubbdavid wrote:
On June 18 2011 23:22 sixfour wrote:
p for probes


This doesn't make any sense.


when i first picked up sc2 i was confused that probes were on a different key


I meant that it doesn't make sense that the button "p" is for Probe.
I was being sarcastic.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
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