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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 15 2011 22:58 GMT
#17
/in
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 15 2011 22:59 GMT
#18
excited to see how a smaller game plays out.
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 15 2011 23:00 GMT
#19
On June 16 2011 07:58 Treadmill wrote:
/in

how many games do we need to be considered not a newbie?


Two or less
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 16 2011 08:16 GMT
#37
haha so many of the same people from TL Mafia XL. Should be fun
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 16 2011 10:59 GMT
#42
Alright! Let's get this thing started! Need my mafia fix!
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 16 2011 18:36 GMT
#57
On June 17 2011 02:51 gtrsrs wrote:
nice this looks like a really fun roster to play with
get me some trancestorm up in this bitch and it's a PARTY


Are you sad you don't get to play with iGrok?
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#90
6 more hours til we get to FoS EVERYONE!!! Especially that Xedat guy
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 17 2011 02:54 GMT
#91
EBWODP (Edit By Way Of Double Post) : Damnit. I mean 18 more hours.
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 17 2011 20:51 GMT
#100
On June 18 2011 04:40 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 04:19 gtrsrs wrote:
d'aww i wish we could start now
you know one thing i never understand? how exactly do games get started? like where does the first FoS come from? i know last game it was because freeloader asked a rookie question and some mafia hopped on it. but other games i feel like there's nothing to go on. i'm hosting a full-role game on another forum right now and there are like 4 posts per day between 20 players because everyone just tries to win at night and no one wants to talk in order to not get suspicions on them. it's super frustrating to watch because it's boring as hell but i kinda see where they're coming from.

anyways
MAYBE I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TO GET US STARTED

I would have jumped on anything whether or not I was scum. Better than a boring game that's for sure.


Let's all have a fun clean game. (OH GAWD DON'T KILL ME!)
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 17 2011 21:38 GMT
#106
We should get everyone talking as soon as possible and get some discussion going so we can weed out the lurkers and get a good lynch for day 1.

I also agree that the DT should not out himself right away unless the benefits are game changing. Does anyone know if the DT checks the role blocker will it return goon or roleblocker for him. If it returns roleblocker I would not mind the DT outing at that point since we will know 100% that we have 1 medic and 1 DT and the medic can keep the DT safe.
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 18 2011 07:08 GMT
#140
On June 18 2011 14:24 Drazerk wrote:
Since we have nothing to really go on I am going to try and get the ball rolling as we still have not heard anything from the following players -

5. Lord Vatti
6. Alderan
10. Xedat

Hopefully they stop by soon as non of them has had any activity since the game began.


I predict 3 mafia modkills.
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 19 2011 07:17 GMT
#180
Alright, nice to comeback to some actual discussion. So far here is what I see.

Lord Vatti: I don't think we should waste a lynch on a modkill for any reason. If we lynch someone with the most evidence that we can muster as a group we have an ok chance of hitting mafia. If we do hit a townie we will at the very least have a lot of information to work off of.

Drazerk: Has been going after inactives/lurkers hard but has not been generating any good discussion. He made some weird arguments earlier on but nothing too scummy. I am ok with pressuring lurkers but their needs to be discussion going on as well. Drazerk please try to add to some analysis and don't start lurking now that the pressure is on you. This is where you need to step up the most.

Alderan: While there is some discrepancies between what he is saying I don't think it is as significant as aprudds thinks it is.

gtrsrs: As others have noted. His play has changed from his last game of mafia where he was town.

Treadmill: Initially started the plan to have DT out himself (thought Mafia had 2 KP) which is understandable given that he missed that part of the rules. But after realising his mistake he still argues for the DT to out himself which I find scummy as it would be much more helpful for the mafia than the town. He does go on to support gtrsrs' case about lynching a modkill if we don't have a really strong case against someone (which will be very hard to find Day 1). aprudds points out how Treadmill is using the same defense he did in the previous mafia game when apprudds was mafia. Treadmill seems to advocate waiting to lynch until we have a really solid case yet votes for someone with a really weak case and then backs up wasting a lynch... scummy. I am keeping an eye on you Treadmill.

Overall: I think wasting a lynch on a modkill is a terrible idea and I think we should be suspicious of anyone who is advocating it. We need to analyze and generate discussion AND pressure lurkers to do the same. Need to be careful that we don't let people silently jump on votes or just repeat/agree what others have said without adding to the discussion.





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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 19 2011 19:30 GMT
#257
Pyo I see that you voted gtrsrs for his behaviour. Is there any other reasons? Just wondering because aprudds behaviour is the same or worse to me and I believe gtrsrs HAS given good defense littered in with the garbage.

Can we get a vote count!
I will be voting to save gtrsrs today as I think he is town(or medic as he claims) and aprudds is just being ridiculous in his attempts to keep pressure on him.

I think the case on Drazerk is not amazing but better than gtrsrs'. In an ideal situation I would like to vote for a lynch on aprudds. If enough people support this please vote for him.


##Vote: aprudds

Note: If enough people do not vote for apprudds before the deadline I will be switching my vote to Drazerk.
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 19 2011 19:37 GMT
#262
We still have 1 hour and 25 minutes. I urge people to vote for aprudds. I believe he is scum and if not, at the very least take the time to look back at gtrsrs' defense. It is solid, and he DOES backup his arguments with solid reasoning. There is no reason to lynch him today.

Vote aprudds or Drazerk.
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 19 2011 20:10 GMT
#284
Here is my short (time constraint) on aprudds:

On June 18 2011 09:31 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 09:28 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 09:01 aprudds wrote:
Working out the Game type helps blues but not the town while reds already have a 50/50 guess on the type and if they work out there is for example a medic in play they know the game type and can use it against us.


Alright since you asked for it I'll start with you.

Let's break this post down shall we?

Statement 1: Finding this information helps blues.

Statement 2: Finding this information does not help town.

Statement 3: Red's have a 50/50 guess on the game.


Wow seriously man, step it up. Think things through. You should be able to see the conclusions people can come to when they look at these statements and connect the dots.

Especially when they combine it with this.

but I agree in that we should stop this discussion and get onto analysing people




Can I pull a Freeloader here and Chalk it up to being a idiot / Inexperienced?

and statement two was more the fact of it may not help towns initially but helps Detectives be a bit more open without claiming knowing they have a medic as back up ( depending on set up ofc ) helping town later in the game.


Notice how I didn't accuse you? Play smarter. Think about what you want to say. Don't be a kurumi and barf out your random thoughts onto the page and hope it makes sense.


Here aprudds is putting pressure on Drazerk for statement regarding determining the game type. Nothing too scummy about this but I do not like the fact the he pressures people with no real accusations.

On June 18 2011 10:16 aprudds wrote:
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On June 18 2011 10:05 freeloader625 wrote:
On June 18 2011 09:31 aprudds wrote:
Notice how I didn't accuse you? Play smarter. Think about what you want to say. Don't be a kurumi and barf out your random thoughts onto the page and hope it makes sense.


Oh damn son he just called you a, "kurumi."

On June 18 2011 09:28 Drazerk wrote:

Can I pull a Freeloader here and Chalk it up to being a idiot / Inexperienced?



Wait, oh you didn't just go there!


Hey Freeloader you intend of contributing this round instead of making random comments all game long?


Here he tries to put the pressure on Freeloader and wants him to contribute. Fair enough. Though now YOU are starting to act like Kurumi and just yell and scream at whoever is available.


On June 18 2011 10:51 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 10:35 freeloader625 wrote:
On June 18 2011 10:16 aprudds wrote:
Hey Freeloader you intend of contributing this round instead of making random comments all game long?


You sound angry. Was it because you failed to lynch me last game? :D

Seriously though, I'll contribute more this game. Pinky swear!


No anger here


Except you keep adding in that your not angry or accusing anyone and you your self have not contributed much.

On June 18 2011 12:52 aprudds wrote:
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On June 18 2011 11:48 gtrsrs wrote:
aprudds is out for blood
don't back down bro

i'm gonna go ahead and piggyback off that
freeloader you got your free pass last game you freeloader. you know well enough by now that posts like this \/
On June 18 2011 10:35 freeloader625 wrote:
On June 18 2011 10:16 aprudds wrote:
Hey Freeloader you intend of contributing this round instead of making random comments all game long?


You sound angry. Was it because you failed to lynch me last game? :D

Seriously though, I'll contribute more this game. Pinky swear!


accomplish nothing. so instead of posting this, why don't you make an analysis or contribute in some way


That's not fair gtr. What exactly is there analyze exactly? What has this contributed? Take some initiative as well and listen to your own advice. Unless your scum, then you can go burn and die.


Actually gets a little defensive when gtrsrs calls HIM out for not contributing/analyzing and his defense is "What exactly is there to analyze...". So you are pressuring people who are not contributing/analyzing but your defense when someone FoS you for the same is there is nothing to analyze... k.

Something to note:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2011 19:10 Xedat wrote:
Generic post not to be modkilled.....

To say one last word to the setup discussion, I think blues should only claim when they are being lynched or if they think outing themselves will help town.

Now, as we need to pressure someone, Drazerk, why do you bring the focus away from freeloader immediately and try to incriminate 3 people who haven't posted hours after the game started. Trying to protect your scumbuddy?


On June 18 2011 19:20 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:10 Xedat wrote:
Generic post not to be modkilled.....

To say one last word to the setup discussion, I think blues should only claim when they are being lynched or if they think outing themselves will help town.

Now, as we need to pressure someone, Drazerk, why do you bring the focus away from freeloader immediately and try to incriminate 3 people who haven't posted hours after the game started. Trying to protect your scumbuddy?


Focusing on freeloader?

What was we focusing on he made one worthless post which was more than the three I had listed had done who had more than enough time to post something by the time I posted the list.

If I had not pointed the three out they will continue to lurk which is just bad all round


On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now.


On June 18 2011 19:49 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now.


At which point we still need their input when they do read it

We had no discussion going on and I pointed out lurkers to which your jumping down my throat, Defending the lurkers?


On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now.


Xedat puts pressure on Drazerk for taking pressure off Freeloader... go back and read that part. There was no pressure on Freeloader. This seems like a poor try to get people to focus on Drazerk for the wrong reasons.


On June 19 2011 06:30 aprudds wrote:
Hey Drazerk, inactives will get modkilled. I'm sure you learned that from last game. You also seem a bit too eager to change focus from freeloader.


You are the one who had put the pressure on Freeloader. You also just wanted him to post more. You weren't actually focusing on him you just wanted people to contribute which is the same thing Drazerk is doing (just in a different way).


On June 19 2011 09:50 aprudds wrote:
The point Drazerk is that inactives will get modkilled. Trying to completely shift focus onto inactives who might not even respond is not productive or pro town.

##Vote: Drazerk


The voting for Drazerk (started by Treadmill) has begun and with a VERY poor argument.

I am just posting this now because we are running out of time.



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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 19 2011 20:11 GMT
#286
EBWODP: aprudds subsequent posts change the pressure wholly onto gtrsrs while changing his vote from Drazerk for more poor reasons. (Doesn't want to actually lynch his buddy)
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 19 2011 20:12 GMT
#287
LOL Drazerk is so confusing. I think he may be town. Which convinces me more that aprudds is scum.
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omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#403
The Town nut! WTF. Is it also just coincidence that my neighbours house blew up recently?
Oh well GG guys. Find and kill those scum that did this!
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