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On June 16 2011 19:59 omgCRAZY wrote: Alright! Let's get this thing started! Need my mafia fix! hehe yes. This will become pretty cool, since we all know each other from the previous mafia. :-) | ||
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but since we don't know whether there is a medic, it would be bad if we lose our only blue in exchange to one mafia. | ||
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##vote: Treadmill | ||
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On June 20 2011 00:05 CjrNinja wrote: Well, it looks like supersoft hasn't come back yet. I'm taking my vote off him and onto gtrsrs. His plan to pile all our votes and waste them on a modkill, negating ANY possibility of getting a mafia today and effectively turning day 2 into another random lynch day 1 is the scummiest thing i've seen so far. Gtrsrs' personality change from a fearless tunneling townie to a passive, uncommitted scum is not unnoticed by me. Gtrsrs: If you think Drazerk is the scummiest so far, then fucking vote for him. There is no 100% certainty on day 1. By lynching a modkill, the day 2 certainty for lynching a scum will be no closer to 100% then it is today. ##Unvote: supersoft ##Vote: gtrsrs haha, now I am back, so you may put your vote back on me if you wish. I don't know what to say about gtrsrs... I agree with him, that we shouldn't randomlynch on day1 in general... mhh difficult situation. If we had a DT for sure, I'd also say, we better lynch a lurker/afkler... But since we cannot be sure about that... From another point of view: If he was mafia, he shouldn't be interested in lynching a person that's afk. Best case for them is, if we lynch one of us who is contributing. So I think this position of him to lynch someone who probably gets modkilled doesn't convince me. A more valid point is his passiveness... How much time is left until nighttime? | ||
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pretty funny how strong your behavior changed from the last game when you were mafia :D Is this a mindgame or are you really townie this time? | ||
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gtrsrs is innocent. Unbelievable. I reread the whole thread, and he's the only one that isn't suspicious to me. I really don't trust aprudds. He is only agressively trying to be the townleader and control the action. But he doesn't lead us anywhere. He just jumps from target to target and accuses everyone, who posts something in here. Moreover is this guy smart enough to change his behavior without a reason - he doesn't need a new role for that. | ||
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On June 20 2011 03:35 aprudds wrote: Really Gtrsrs is the ONLY person that isn't suspicious? You sir need to get your brain checked. Lynch Treadmill? You must have some BRILLIANT reasoning for this. Let's see.... A)He's useless B)He suggested a bad plan Damn, with that reasoning we must all probably be scum. How can you judge usefulness on day one again? Also if your suspicious of me why are you trying to lynch treadmill again? Because he's "useless"? So if we go by that logic we should ignore everyone suspicious and try and lynch everyone we think is "useless" right? Can we please smarten up? If you really think I'm scum make an argument about it. I promise, that I'll set up an argument if gtrsrs flips green. | ||
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What's the votecount so far? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 18 2011 06:23 gtrsrs wrote: disagree at all points since we potentially have a roleblocker (who i might accidentally call a "hooker" as habit from epicmafia, just a heads up), the mafia doesn't actually need to kill a power role to nullify it. they can hook it all game and go after other townies since a confirmed DT that can't provide reports is worse than the possibility that there's a DT out there somewhere. a DT should only *definitely* claim if he's got a guilty when there are TWO mafia left. there are no millers in any set-up so his reports will be 100% accurate, and narrowing us down to 1 mafia from 2 (especially if that means a 50% chance at hitting a roleblocker if there is one) is better than sacrificing his power to get a single goon. IMO. also i don't think it's safe to ignore any set-ups as possibilities. while it would certainly make for a less "fun" game, there's strategic merit in every set-up including the almost all-'nilla set-up. just "assuming" we have blue roles would benefit the mafia, as we may wait for a medic save or detective report that never comes ![]() for reference on this page, these are the possible set-ups: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town. 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town. For example this first post. This post makes perfect sense if he is the medic. He only talks about the setup with a roleblocker, because if there is a DT, there's also a roleblocker. ARGH! guys!!! This roleclaiming was pretty stupid... But not nearly as stupid as this OUT OF CONTROL accuses by aprudds! If you are town, then you are the reason for us losing this game! Now mafia has every information about the setup they require to fool us completely... | ||
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##vote: aprudds | ||
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at first, he just makes some useless posts, no accuses, just a little bandwagoning here and there. In fact he first voted on Drazerk, switched to gtrsrs and switched again to aprudds. Not a reason to call him scum (I also switched twice :D) What made me consider that he's mafia is his recent behavior. Since people started accusing him, he changed dramatically: + Show Spoiler + On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote: looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me. Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon." Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way? Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play. Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave. It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia. Note this: "Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave." .... third person... Well I don't know, I might be wrong, but I think he meant: "You idiots, I didn't act suspicious at all." Also this: + Show Spoiler + On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote: So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too? Why don't you say anything about appruds? Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him. Also this one. "you call me scum? You are scum yourself!" All in all, Xedat is the most obvious choice even more than Drazerk and gtrsrs. I am not sure about both. They were both under heavy pressure and posted some suspicious/strange things... ##vote: Xedat | ||
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On June 21 2011 07:42 Alderan wrote: Umm what??? I got RB'd......?? So this will almost assuredly get me lynched, but the town needs to know the set up, so I had to claim. What just happened? oh wait... I didn't see this... This changes everything... got to think about that | ||
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Xedat/Drazerk/Alderan/CjrNinja/Treadmill I really don't know what to think about you guys. I just see you guys bandwagoning around. But we can't just lynch you all in a small game like this. We are 2 lynches away from losing. You guys have to realize this! Can you please post some more thought out posts? It would really help us. We have to stick together in order to beat the mafia at this point. If everyone is only interested in surviving, we can't and won't win this. Xedat, it would be great if you post some explanations for your behavior. Especially the posts I quoted in my last post. + Show Spoiler + On June 21 2011 07:47 supersoft wrote: I have to agree, Xedat is pretty suspicious. I just went trough all his posts. at first, he just makes some useless posts, no accuses, just a little bandwagoning here and there. In fact he first voted on Drazerk, switched to gtrsrs and switched again to aprudds. Not a reason to call him scum (I also switched twice :D) What made me consider that he's mafia is his recent behavior. Since people started accusing him, he changed dramatically: + Show Spoiler + On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote: looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me. Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon." Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way? Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play. Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave. It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia. Note this: "Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave." .... third person... Well I don't know, I might be wrong, but I think he meant: "You idiots, I didn't act suspicious at all." Also this: + Show Spoiler + On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote: So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too? Why don't you say anything about appruds? Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him. Also this one. "you call me scum? You are scum yourself!" All in all, Xedat is the most obvious choice even more than Drazerk and gtrsrs. I am not sure about both. They were both under heavy pressure and posted some suspicious/strange things... ##vote: Xedat I also would be really glad if someone could sum up the accuses against gtrsrs, that are still valid. He was accused of being too passive. Explanation for that would be, that he is our medic. Does someone have something real against him, or are his "voters" just scum that wants to create a suspicious situation around him by just voting him and claiming he's scum, hoping for a bandwagon? Pyo please, you seem pretty reasonable. Don't take this game too personal. You have to stay focussed. Work something out, and don't be just pissed about the fact, that gtrsrs wasn't lynched at day1. | ||
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I know, that I pushed two mislynches... Okay, aprudds wasn't a good choice right from the beginning, but it was a weird situation and I tried to save our medic (and I was right about this guy)... But I thought Xedat was 100% scum... Since today is the last chance for us to come back, I will read the whole thread again and try to find something apart from the whole DT/roleblock-Claimstory... Obviously we can't trust the DT that will now come forward... We don't know whether he's scum or not and we don't know whether Alderan is scum or not. Again: Since this is the last chance, don't overreact if someone roleclaims... He and Alderan could be mafia or they could be innocent. We don't know. And we can't afford a mislynch! These overeager decisions in the past, nearly costed us the game! Now calm down, its 4:3 we nearly have a 50% chance to one of them. | ||
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##vote: Alderan | ||
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