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youngminii
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I haven't played mafia in a long time so hopefully I don't screw town over too hard. @Varpulis: I'd rather lynch a lurker than do a random lynch. | ||
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I'd think it's very unscummy that he declared so strongly about not joining any witch hunts. If I were mafia, I'd leave that option available just in case I could get an easy bandwagon. my2c I'm still for an inactive vote, but I have a suspicious finger towards palmar a little. I want to see his response to the pressure being put on him. | ||
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As for the vet claiming, I'm all for it if the entire town can get behind it. If the vet is a liar, I think we'll figure it out eventually as the days go on. If the vet dies first night because of a roleblock + hit, then we'll know that there is a roleblocker in the game. I don't see the downsides outweighing the advantages to this. | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:31 JeeJee wrote: G'mornin chaps Already some serious mudslinging going on, mataza you don't need to be so defensive and martyring yourself, I hate it when people do that. It makes analysis post deaths a lot more difficult if someone attacks person A, and instead of pointing out the flaws in their attack, A just goes "fine lynch me noob, see what i flip". Point out the flaws in Varp's attack instead. His whole attack is based on your shitty hypothetical wifom argument and is just a way to say "i dont like this type of argument". Correct me if I'm wrong varp  Also, why the hell would someone claim vet? Dumbest thing I've ever read. Claim you're vet if you've lost one life, fine. Not right up front. Vets are probably the strongest role in that they can fill in the role as town leader/coordinator. If the mafia want to kill him, they have to use 2KP or roleblock+hit (which not only reveals that there is a roleblocker, it uses both at once). Since the vet has a lower priority for mafia night killing, as long as the town are always cautious, the vet can act as the town pillar. | ||
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Disadvantage: None really. It's the best way to utilise the vet role, and the only flaw that there could be is if someone lied about it, but the lie should become obvious eventually. But if you don't want to then I'm not going to argue, I think there's plenty of other/better discussion that could be happening instead of us arguing over something that you won't agree to. Better to have the palmar/mataza stuff going if this just isn't going to happen. | ||
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Hesmyrr, I never said my pressure. In any case I did say I was an advocate of lynching the inactives. ##Vote: unichan | ||
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##Unvote: unichan ##Vote stefftastiq | ||
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On June 05 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote: The roleclaim shit was just some bullshit I made up to start discussion, feel free to ignore the idea now, it's terrible anyway. Also, Mataza is scum. You bring up a plan to create discussion while knowing it was completely bullshit, then you tell everyone to ignore the idea (making the discussion null and void anyway)? That's completely retarded, big FoS, if all the inactives come back before the end of the day my vote goes to you. | ||
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While I am remaining suspicious of sinani and steff for their inactivity, you have repeatedly shown throughout your posts that you are one of the following: A. Scum B. Unfit for town Also I'm unvoting Steff because he's put in an effort, as little as it may be. You still have to step it up Steff. ##Unvote Stefftastic ##Vote Palmar | ||
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On June 05 2011 23:06 Palmar wrote: The analysis isn't flawed. Policy lynching inactive people is stupid, and will never hit a scum. I may be wrong, but my reasons are certainly valid enough. Lynching people who you think are unfit for town is also stupid, cause that means you're not hitting scum. I'm glad you actually stuck a vote on me this time though, even if the thought process behind it is flawed, at least you're aggressive enough this time to at least have a hope of creating discussion. Congratulations. The reason you want to hit people is because they behave in a way that scum should behave. The thought process you should be going through is "If I were scum, would I be posting this". Only Mataza and Sinani206 fit my bill when I went through the thread. I would try to play somewhat like them if I was the scum. Now, you may not agree with my methods to the point you're willing to vote me off for them, but can you honestly go through my posts and say "this is how I'd post if I was scum". If you can, then keep doing your thing man. ... what is this really I'm gunning for you because your reasoning/play has been scummy so far, it doesn't have anything to do with whether I agree or disagree with your 'methods'. Also, less belittlement please. Basically your post had no real content. You reaffirm your belief that lynching inactives is stupid, yet you never disagreed with anyone about it earlier. There are plenty of people other than sinani advocating the inactive lynch, including myself, yet you don't even consider this in your crusade against sinani. Then you go on and post a bunch of bullshit for the sake of content. No, you are definitely the scummiest in this town. | ||
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On June 06 2011 09:34 Varpulis wrote: Plan: Cops check sinani. DON'T CLAIM COP If he's scum, find another way to communicate it. Call his claim under scrutiny later, and analyze his posting to show that he's scum. Claim only if you think you're going to die. We proceed to lynch OriginalName, for lurking and not posting content. He has joined all the major bandwagons and posted only his opinion of those players that he's voting for, basically just repeating what everybody else is saying. Thoughts? Probably the best idea so far. I'm surprised you all bandwagon'd on Sinani though, the case against him really wasn't that strong. And if you think really, really carefully, you'll realise that my argument did make sense. He seriously just isn't playing like a scum at all. Although if we are going to go for a policy lynch, I suggest Kav. He's the best candidate seeing as he's virtually only said "lynch lurkers" then disappeared. By the way, when you say "seems like a last ditch effort to save himself", that's REALLY not a good argument. If he's vet then that's exactly what he should do, claim before he gets lynched. OriginalName falling apart in logic, but I don't know what to make of him so.. Kav or Palmar would be my best lynch candidates for today. | ||
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Most, if not all, of the mafia would definitely agree with the lynch on Sinani (assuming he is vet). Don't get caught up in the bandwagoning imo. man if sinani ends up being scum i'm never gonna play mafia ever again | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:33 OriginalName wrote: Just saying, he was an aybsmal vet in the first place, what scum in his right mind would shoot him. A Vet who is not shot is just a vanilla townie. It's not a huge loss in the end. This is so stupid i i holy fuck | ||
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prplhz Palmar Mataza stefftastiq OriginalName You're all on my huge FoS list if Sinani flips non-red. I can't think of any reason why you all have such a strong opinion about lynching him. His actions are very non-scummy. If he had mafia friends I'd assume they'd try to change discussion to something else other than lynching him. Basically makes half the players <.< Also, Varpulis jumping around with his voting pattern, basically accusing everyone. Don't know what to make of that, just noting it. As for my vote, I'm basically defending Sinani now and I agree with Varpulis' plan. Also: Just saying, he was an aybsmal townie in the first place. It's not a huge loss in the end. ##Vote OriginalName | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:42 prplhz wrote: @youngminii Town should never rely on blues like that. What is this confirmation we can get on day2 that you are talking about? And if we were going to lynch somebody else who would you suggest? Kavdragon and Palmar? And why do you think they would be better lynches? But yea I'm also beginning to have doubts about sinani206's scummyness but I don't see anybody else with a strong case against them and with so little potential for doing something good for town on day2. Okay, we are not relying on blues, this must be a misconception of yours. Relying on blues is more like when a cop claims and we rely on the doctor to repeatedly save the cop and hope that there's no roleblocker and that the mafia don't snipe the doctor. Withholding a lynch against someone who claimed vet so that we're sure we don't snipe a blue is definitely, NOT, relying on a blue. I didn't actually say we could confirm that he was a vet, but I suppose a cop could do it. My line of reasoning is that there's no reason to lynch him now when we can lynch him later if he continues to be scummy. Kavdragon has (had) very little posts with content. Basically he said let's lynch lurkers and then didn't post. I've already had a case on Palmar. As for YOU, you've literally gone and sheeped along with the sinani case I can only see this as a way to absolve your sins once (if) sinani does flip non-red. | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:51 Kavdragon wrote: So I'll be honest here. I saw giant bandwagon on a player who had no one really defending them. That is a town tell for me. Don't get me wrong, I think that sinari looks scummy, but that big of a landslide of votes is not going to happen to a mafia player. So I was going to press for Original Name, becaues he was lurking back and not posting much other than defence. This claim (which sinani's been painfully obviously hinting at for the since he asked if a vet could be lynched) is changing things. If I were mafia, and I was about to be lynched, I would 100% claim vet. It's not confirmable unless you are shot, and obviously the mafia isn't going to shoot their own member. After they claim vet they have an excuse to be alive for the rest of the game "Because the mafia know that I am a vet". In short, the vet claim makes me think more than anything that Sinani is scum. I think I think that the vet claim is a last ditch attempt to save their own, and by the looks of it it's going pretty well. ##Unvote ##Vote Sinani I ask one last time to reconsider. If you were mafia and you were about to be lynched, you would claim vet. If you were vet and you were about to be lynched, you would claim vet. It's a non-valid argument. If you still feel strongly that Sinani is the scummiest, then I can't stop you. | ||
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