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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
April 12 2011 23:02 GMT
#1
For any other Canadians around, the debate is on this evening. It's broadcast both live and with a tape delay in various parts of the country, and CPAC is streaming it here. Steve Paikin is moderating.

Anyone else watching this?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
April 12 2011 23:08 GMT
#2
Can you give us some background on the politics/drama of the canidates involved?
Freak705
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 23:19:05
April 12 2011 23:14 GMT
#3
It wouldn't be an election without a healthy amount of cynicism... That said, here's something I found today on the internet:

Take a drink when:

-During the pre-game show, a party rep tries to set the bar absurdly low for his or her candidate as a ploy to win the expectations game. (“Harper’s only been PM for five years—he can barely speak English”; “Ignatieff only taught at Oxford and Harvard. He’ll be lucky if he doesn’t set his podium on fire.”)

-Harper says the word “coalition.” Two sips for “reckless coalition.” Three sips for “reckless coalition with socialists and separatists.”

-Host Steven Paikin makes a reference to Twitter.

-Duceppe yawns, buffs his nails, or drops the L-bomb (“liar”) again.
anyone tries to sound like Ronald Reagan. “There you go again…”

-Layton says “working families” or “coast to coast to coast.”
the leaders use any of the following verbal tics: “Let me be clear,” “Friends,” “Let me be perfectly clear,” “What he isn’t telling you,” “Let me be crystal clear,” “Vets before jets.” Pin the phrase on the party leader.

-A reporter says the words “knockout punch” or “game changer.” In the moment, of course, it’s impossible to know if the game-knockout-changer-punch has been uttered, but every reporter hopes to get his or her voice on tape if it happens. It’s a living.

-Ignatieff tries to be folksy, but comes off as condescending.
anyone says “gravy train” (yes, this is part of the federal election now).

“Toronto” is said in a derogatory manner.

-A leader invokes a half-invented story about someone he met in a swing riding on the campaign trail (“…like Debbie in Saskatoon-Rosetown-Biggar, who…”; “…like Raj in Brampton-Springdale, who…”).


My own special bonus addition:
-For Green supporters, drink an entire bottle of liquor before the debate starts in protest if being excluded from the debate.

I'll pour a little out for you, Elizabeth May
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 12 2011 23:16 GMT
#4
Hahaha "the old Jack Layton"
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 12 2011 23:17 GMT
#5
probably voting liberal just to oppose this:

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5733/125/
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 23:20:03
April 12 2011 23:19 GMT
#6
On April 13 2011 08:08 On_Slaught wrote:
Can you give us some background on the politics/drama of the canidates involved?


The Liberal party is a shambles, so the Conservatives are all about the election now, but no one really likes the Conservatives either in their handling of the recession, so they've just been winning minority government after minority government. The NDP hasn't been a viable party for ages now, the Bloc is the Bloc, and the Green Party is still too fragmented to actually win a seat in parliament.

EDIT: to make it clear who I'm responding too.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
April 12 2011 23:20 GMT
#7
On April 13 2011 08:17 CTStalker wrote:
probably voting liberal just to oppose this:

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5733/125/

You know, there's more than one way to vote against the conservatives

Sorry, proud little Alberta Dipper here.
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
April 12 2011 23:20 GMT
#8
Man, Jack Layton is a good debater. Harper is surprisingly good as well. Ignatieff doesn't seem to have it for me, even though he's apparently been on TV in the UK and things like that... although he's doing pretty well right now with the education stuff.

Of course, I'm in Elizabeth May's riding, so I'm pretty sure I will be voting green anyway.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
April 12 2011 23:21 GMT
#9
Gilles Duceppe has won every single federal debate since he took over the Bloc. If he was the head of any other party at all, he'd be prime minister.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 23:25:09
April 12 2011 23:22 GMT
#10
On April 13 2011 08:08 On_Slaught wrote:
Can you give us some background on the politics/drama of the canidates involved?

this will be our 3rd federal election in five years

the conservatives have been in power since '06, with a minority control of parliament. their leader isn't very well liked, but well, our alternatives aren't much better. jack laydon's kind of a joke, and ignatief doesn't relate very well to most canadians.

On April 13 2011 08:20 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:17 CTStalker wrote:
probably voting liberal just to oppose this:

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5733/125/

You know, there's more than one way to vote against the conservatives

Sorry, proud little Alberta Dipper here.

i voted green last time, but i don't want harper to win a majority government.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
April 12 2011 23:28 GMT
#11
Ouch, Layton just called out Ignatieff on freezing foreign aid in his budget proposal. Nice one.
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
April 12 2011 23:30 GMT
#12
On April 13 2011 08:22 CTStalker wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:20 Treadmill wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:17 CTStalker wrote:
probably voting liberal just to oppose this:

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5733/125/

You know, there's more than one way to vote against the conservatives

Sorry, proud little Alberta Dipper here.

i voted green last time, but i don't want harper to win a majority government.


It really depends what riding you're in, then. I'm in Edmonton-Strathcona, so the voting against Harper means voting for the NDP. In the last election the liberals ran full-page newspaper ads in a number of ridings saying how people needed to vote liberal in order to keep out harper, and in a bunch of them Conservatives won the riding with the NDP coming second.
Eruaphadion
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada78 Posts
April 12 2011 23:31 GMT
#13
Harper has done a fine job serving this country and he will continue to, minority or not.
"STEP ON THE GAS"
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
April 12 2011 23:31 GMT
#14
I'm in Trinity-Spadina, so voting against the Conservatives means voting for Olivia Chow.
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FlyingSheeps
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada204 Posts
April 12 2011 23:33 GMT
#15
Another election another Minority government then we get to do it all over again in 3 years sigh.
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
April 12 2011 23:34 GMT
#16
On April 13 2011 08:31 Eruaphadion wrote:
Harper has done a fine job serving this country and he will continue to, minority or not.


I actually agree with you about Harper, but I don't care for the more conservative wing of the Conservative party, and also some of their administration methods (handwritten NOT's inserted into memos?). If Harper was a Liberal I'd be an enthusiastic Liberal supporter. As it is, I prefer a weak minority Conservative or Liberal government.
FlyingSheeps
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 23:36:07
April 12 2011 23:35 GMT
#17
On April 13 2011 08:21 bonifaceviii wrote:
Gilles Duceppe has won every single federal debate since he took over the Bloc. If he was the head of any other party at all, he'd be prime minister.


Maybe but his head of the most disliked party in Canada,
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
April 12 2011 23:35 GMT
#18
This debate is terrible. Everyone is just attacking Harper's policies rather than promoting their own. This has been going on for the last 9001 elections and hasn't worked, yet they expect it to do so now? =_=
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
FlyingSheeps
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada204 Posts
April 12 2011 23:37 GMT
#19
On April 13 2011 08:17 CTStalker wrote:
probably voting liberal just to oppose this:

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5733/125/


I can't vote liberal they want to cut funding to the Military and put me out of a job xD
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 23:41:56
April 12 2011 23:37 GMT
#20
On April 13 2011 08:31 Eruaphadion wrote:
Harper has done a fine job serving this country and he will continue to, minority or not.


I kindly disagree. He should have been out a long time ago if he didn't use those ridiculous tactics to stop everything.

I'm not a big fan of any party at the moment. :/ Then again, I was never a big fan of politics in general, but this year seems to be the worst for me. None of them are good leaders.

The guys I know in the military make really good money. I know tons of guys involved, but heck you ask any other country and they'll ask, "What military?"

We have next to zero presence around the world in terms of arms (goes back to your government spending; yet, the guys who are in the military are well paid). :/
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