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This topic was just closed but it had a side discussion going on that I have been thinking about my self recently. This was the question that sparked it:
Just as a side question... (perhaps dumb) but is HoTS going to have a completely different BNet multiplayer server thing? Like Broodwar and SC1 Original, are player able to play together? Or are HoTS playing with themselves and original playing with themselves?
So what does everyone think?
- Will there be 2 functional Blizzard approved Ladders? (One for WoL, One for HoTS)
- Will HoTS and WoL players be able to play each other in Custom games or will there be entirely different servers for the 2 games?
- Will Blizzard continue to patch WoL as well as HoTS? + Show Spoiler +(Sorry if this is a stupid question, I know you could play SC and BW separately if you owned both but I don't remember if the patch changes made to BW applied to SC as I only ever played BW.
In my opinion, I feel like Blizzard will have to kill the 1v1 Ladder(at least) for WoL and continue on with a brand new ladder strictly and only for HoTS.
Obviously the GSL and all other Blizzard sanctioned Tournaments would switch over to HoTS immediately after its release but what about smaller tournaments? I feel with them eliminating the 1v1 Ladder for WoL it will push smaller run tournaments to use HoTS as soon as possible and thus establish HoTS as the "New" SC2 to be played.
Your thoughts TL?
Poll: How do you thinkt the Ladder will be setup after HoTS is released?Full Ladder for both WoL and HotS (193) 56% Kill Entire WoL Ladder (1v1-4v4) / New Ladder on HotS Only (120) 35% Kill just 1v1 Ladder for WoL / New 1v1 Ladder on HotS Only (33) 10% 346 total votes Your vote: How do you thinkt the Ladder will be setup after HoTS is released? (Vote): Full Ladder for both WoL and HotS
(Vote): Kill just 1v1 Ladder for WoL / New 1v1 Ladder on HotS Only
(Vote): Kill Entire WoL Ladder (1v1-4v4) / New Ladder on HotS Only
Edit: Fixed typos
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As long as the HoTS ladder is an improvement upon the current overall ladder system I will be happy.
I have a feeling I am not going to be happy though :|
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it will 99% either a new ladder or simply upgraded and hots will be required to play.
not to mention blizzard will be pushing people to buy the expansion as hard as possible
it's not like anyone is going to continue playing WoL after hots. same as no-one plays vanilla sc1 online. atleast not to my knowledge
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With activision at the reigns, they will most def kill the Wol ladder, because it would mean more sales of their new product, they don't want people to playing older games for free forever.
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I'm pretty sure before public beta it was stated that the WoL ladder will disappear when HoTS comes out.
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I'd imagine that they just have the single new ladder for HotS, since allowing for separate ladders would make it very complicated for tournaments, and the game would literally splinter off from itself. Custom games may be limited for WoL users, since people with WoL would be able to experience HotS gameplay otherwise (actually, i'm not sure there's a feasible way for them to prevent something like that).
Anyway, a bit early to speculate, it's not like HotS is coming out in a few months.
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On February 09 2011 11:09 Mecha71 wrote:
With activision at the reigns, they will most def kill the Wol ladder, because it would mean more sales of their new product, they don't want people to playing older games for free forever.
if this were the case, they would have shut down bnet1.0 by now. And how in the hell am i playing for free when i paid for the game?
They will probably shut down the WoL ladder eventually, but not until HotS has been out a while as they would lose alot of people who can't afford to buy the xpac right away
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warcraft 3 had seperate ladders for hte original and the expansion... makes sense they would do same thing to sc2
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I have a feeling that they will never shut down the WoL ladder, especially considering that they haven't even shut down their Warcraft 2 B.net servers yet. The server situation will probably be very similar to the vanilla SC1 to BW transition where the vanilla SC1 servers are kept though most of the games eventually shifted over to the BW server.
I think it wouldn't be too much a problem for Blizzard to keep the WoL server running since HoTS's release will probably result in the player base migrating to the new expansion, which should lower the server load on the WoL servers. LotV's release should lower the server load even more.
The only problem I can forsee is that Blizzard might shift all their technical support to their newer expansions after their releases, so the WoL ladder and server might be more unstable.
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If you believe Kotaku, the answer is: separate ladders.
http://kotaku.com/#!5599005/everything-we-know-about-the-next-starcraft-game
Will Wings of Liberty owners be able to play against Heart of the Swarm players?
One school of thought is that, despite the three games having different campaigns, the multiplayer sections of all three StarCraft II releases would be compatible with each other. That's not the case. A Blizzard representative told us to expect separate multiplayer ladders for Heart of the Swarm, similar to how StarCraft Brood War had a separate multiplayer ladder from the original StarCraft.
Obviously there's time and room to change their mind.
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why separated ladders? useless. Blizzard will keep multiplayer and single player separated. whatever units or changes will be done to the campaign, its just gonna be a patch to single player, so the ladder will remain the same.
So basically there cant be 2 ladders because there is gonna be just 1 multiplayer. (no units or funky stuff will be added).
That's what i think common sense tell us.
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On February 09 2011 11:42 Rantech wrote:
why separated ladders? useless. Blizzard will keep multiplayer and single player separated. whatever units or changes will be done to the campaign, its just gonna be a patch to single player, so the ladder will remain the same.
So basically there cant be 2 ladders because there is gonna be just 1 multiplayer. (no units or funky stuff will be added).
That's what i think common sense tell us.
They are going to add new units to the multiplayer in much the same way they did in Brood War.
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I think there will be one ladder. As the next two expansions come out the multiplayer will have added units and stuff and no matter what version(s) you have you experience the same multiplayer.
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Why the hell would they kill off the ladder for WoL? The only point that they should ever do that in the near future is 1-2 years after HoTS has been released.
Its Blizzard. Their expansions sell well enough without needing to resort to something as drastic as that. Nobody plays StarCraft without Brood War as much as people don't play WoW without its expansions.
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Itll go the same way that Warcraft 3 --> Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne went i imagine..
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Yay i got quoted? :D
Imo, these should all be on the same ladder. I sure as hell am not going to spend 60 dollars per expansion that Blizzard comes out with... I think the single player should be different, but not the multiplayer
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On February 09 2011 11:50 Fisalia wrote:
Yay i got quoted? :D
Imo, these should all be on the same ladder. I sure as hell am not going to spend 60 dollars per expansion that Blizzard comes out with... I think the single player should be different, but not the multiplayer
But SC without BW would have been disastrous...
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Not that Blizzard has been making all the best moves lately, but shutting down the WoL ladder would be suicidal. I'd be amazed if they didn't keep it running for a looooooooooong time.
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On February 09 2011 11:43 Takkara wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2011 11:42 Rantech wrote:
why separated ladders? useless. Blizzard will keep multiplayer and single player separated. whatever units or changes will be done to the campaign, its just gonna be a patch to single player, so the ladder will remain the same.
So basically there cant be 2 ladders because there is gonna be just 1 multiplayer. (no units or funky stuff will be added).
That's what i think common sense tell us. They are going to add new units to the multiplayer in much the same way they did in Brood War.
This.
Expansions (almost) ALWAYS have a separate ladder, no matter which game you play or whatever developer is making the game. Few games are exceptions to this, the most notable being the Dawn of War series from Relic which was due to their unique system of stand-alone expansions.
On February 09 2011 11:50 Fisalia wrote:
Imo, these should all be on the same ladder. I sure as hell am not going to spend 60 dollars per expansion that Blizzard comes out with... I think the single player should be different, but not the multiplayer
For all we know, the expansions will probably be reasonably priced at normal expansion-pack prices ($30 to $40, maybe $45 at most). No company is foolish enough to price their expansions as full games, especially at $60. Heck, Catacylsm's retail price is $40, which is reasonable for a newly released expansion. Heck, we don't even know if the SC2 expansions are stand-alone or require WoL.
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EA shuts off the servers every time a new madden comes out.
In days past I would not have thought Blizz would do that, but now, I think they will.
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