• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:11
CEST 09:11
KST 16:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War955.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Server Blocker How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued
Tourneys
$3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War Bot on ladder ASL22 General Discussion ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
[Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs Dreams 2026-10-15 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues ASL 22 Finals [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11610 users

WoL to HotS Ladder Transition? - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
monterto
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada103 Posts
February 10 2011 01:16 GMT
#61
I'm pretty sure they announced that it was only a campaign as soon as they announced their 3-part strategy.

Nothing will change.
I'm pretty much Hyuk but white...
michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
February 10 2011 01:29 GMT
#62
From a business standpoint, no one will buy just the original game to get "hooked."

You can still start playing WoW and only play classic if you want for a low price, but to experience all the advantages the game has to offer, you must play the newest installment.


Whatever they decide to do, I'm sure they will allow people to continue to play WoL but there will be some red herring that simply makes it inferior in the minds of almost everyone and make all active players want to buy HotS.

I don't know what that would be, but I'd bet someone can figure it out before they officially tell us.
KR NsPMichael.805 | AM Michael.2640 | SEA Michael.523 | 엔에스피 New Star Players
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 01:41:20
February 10 2011 01:38 GMT
#63
On February 09 2011 22:58 Kazang wrote:
Yeah, at most one or two units per race, which is what I already said, anything other than that is unlikely, or it will break the game.

You think it's important (and difficult) to scout a terran now in the early game? How about adding 2, 3 or even 4 new units to that already formidable line-up and you have to account for all and any of them without being able to scout. Rock, paper, scissors is fun right guys?
There are already a ton of "auto-lose" strats if you don't account for them and accounting for them is too often guesswork, increasing the variety of units only adds to this massively.

BW added some core units that completely changed the game worked, so take that "like BW" comment with a grain of salt. Vanilla SC had quite a few less units and some completely un-used ones (lol scout), adding more was logical. Not so for SC2.

My personal prediction is for one Tier 2.5 or 3 unit and one minor unit (eg infested terran, point defence drone, etc) to be added in the expansion, but seriously unless the new units have either a large amount of redundancy and/or replace others outright adding any more than one major unit per race would be terrible design.


You seem to have constructed yourself a nice straw man there. I don't think anyone was seriously proposing they'd introduce more than 1-2 units per race. They didn't in BW either. There was 2 new units each in BW. No one was saying they'd do more.

However, some people were saying they would not introduce new units at all. That's just clearly not true. And if they introduce even one new unit, they have to have a different ladder. You can't have people that can magically use more units than the people they play against. That doesn't mean they'll close the WoL ladder, but they'll have separate ones at least unless they decide to give the units free to everyone. However, at this point, they haven't said that is there plan but they have intimated that the ladders will be separate like BW/SC.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Yoon 792
firebathero 546
ToSsGirL 95
Aegong 58
Pusan 31
Bale 27
ZergMaN 21
yabsab 20
sSak 14
Noble 5
[ Show more ]
Britney 0
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm137
League of Legends
JimRising 614
Counter-Strike
PGG 89
Other Games
summit1g6675
WinterStarcraft526
ceh9398
Happy346
Mew2King211
Sick167
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick533
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 10
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH351
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2228
League of Legends
• Rush1109
• Stunt406
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
2h 49m
WardiTV Qualifier
3h 49m
OSC
15h 49m
Online Event
1d 3h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 19h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 22h
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
IPSL
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.