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monterto
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada103 Posts
February 10 2011 01:16 GMT
#61
I'm pretty sure they announced that it was only a campaign as soon as they announced their 3-part strategy.

Nothing will change.
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michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
February 10 2011 01:29 GMT
#62
From a business standpoint, no one will buy just the original game to get "hooked."

You can still start playing WoW and only play classic if you want for a low price, but to experience all the advantages the game has to offer, you must play the newest installment.


Whatever they decide to do, I'm sure they will allow people to continue to play WoL but there will be some red herring that simply makes it inferior in the minds of almost everyone and make all active players want to buy HotS.

I don't know what that would be, but I'd bet someone can figure it out before they officially tell us.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 01:41:20
February 10 2011 01:38 GMT
#63
On February 09 2011 22:58 Kazang wrote:
Yeah, at most one or two units per race, which is what I already said, anything other than that is unlikely, or it will break the game.

You think it's important (and difficult) to scout a terran now in the early game? How about adding 2, 3 or even 4 new units to that already formidable line-up and you have to account for all and any of them without being able to scout. Rock, paper, scissors is fun right guys?
There are already a ton of "auto-lose" strats if you don't account for them and accounting for them is too often guesswork, increasing the variety of units only adds to this massively.

BW added some core units that completely changed the game worked, so take that "like BW" comment with a grain of salt. Vanilla SC had quite a few less units and some completely un-used ones (lol scout), adding more was logical. Not so for SC2.

My personal prediction is for one Tier 2.5 or 3 unit and one minor unit (eg infested terran, point defence drone, etc) to be added in the expansion, but seriously unless the new units have either a large amount of redundancy and/or replace others outright adding any more than one major unit per race would be terrible design.


You seem to have constructed yourself a nice straw man there. I don't think anyone was seriously proposing they'd introduce more than 1-2 units per race. They didn't in BW either. There was 2 new units each in BW. No one was saying they'd do more.

However, some people were saying they would not introduce new units at all. That's just clearly not true. And if they introduce even one new unit, they have to have a different ladder. You can't have people that can magically use more units than the people they play against. That doesn't mean they'll close the WoL ladder, but they'll have separate ones at least unless they decide to give the units free to everyone. However, at this point, they haven't said that is there plan but they have intimated that the ladders will be separate like BW/SC.
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