EPTBC and RoL: Salem Mafia
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On November 15 2010 07:36 chaoser wrote: I'M BACK! /IN WHERES PANDAIN!?!? EDIT: Is it too late =/. I'll be replacement I guess =[[[[ HAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII | ||
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On November 22 2010 10:56 flamewheel wrote: You learn to read! Spamming posts for pre-game meta meta. I thought your friend was playing  | ||
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I thought each person was going to be paired with an analyzer, then i thought they're just in charge of a group of people. What exactly are they doing, and how are they helping us? | ||
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Couple Thoughts 1.Dr. H is hardly trying to get people to claim to him. Radfield, your accusation that he has at least insinuated that is lacking at best. As of right now though keep in mind Dr. H could still be mafia. Just because he was claimed to doesn't mean anything. 2.People be hatin' on the pandas  3.Wtf proctat. Honestly, this doesn't seem very anti town at all(how could it get people to claim valuable roles), but its just confusing to me. The main thing I'm wondering is what benefits could it have? That's the question that should be noted. | ||
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It's time to pick a canidate. I'd rather have a 50% chance of getting the right canidate than a 1% chance if we let mafia decide since we have split the vote. With that, I am going to suggest someone who I myself am suscipcious of, that is, Annul. In short, he has been spamming or "contributing" without really contributing. The icing on the cake for me is of his pm with dr. h, which could've been a mafia slip up. Right now, I am uncertain his alignment, but more leaning with mafia. And since it's day 1, I think he's probably the best bet we have, along with Brownbear. However I am going to hold off on Brownbear since 1)We're SFA members 2) He does this sometimes, just going inactive and even getting modkilled. But I think either of them would be good lynches. His Posts this game: SPAM + Show Spoiler + Spam On November 27 2010 13:23 annul wrote: harry potter stuff is all you ever need, this is SALEM mafia, we are all magical people here ok produce your wand, yo. spam On November 27 2010 13:38 annul wrote: spam On November 27 2010 13:44 annul wrote: what better way to teach the game than to show them precisely what the "non-learning" games are all about? but okay, sure. real analysis? the only thing we need now is pandain to attempt to get people to claim to him in PMs and to start a circle and we have a standard TL mafia game. drh is already vying for day 1 leader so we are certainly off to the normal start. thing of note is that the OP explicitly says not all roles may exist in the game. dont do analysis assuming all these roles are there, especially when trying to reverse engineer rolecounts through the guise of "well, THIS is balanced!" etc. also if this is a "learning game" then i guess we should stick to the bread and butter playstyles and not go all out with crazy trickeries and gambits and stuff This post was after he was called out for not contributing. Yet this post is not contributing at all by any means. Right now, what does this post say? 1.I'm doing this to teach people what NOT to do. (joke maybe) 2.We'll have a normal game if... 3.Don't analyze based on roles. This post really doesn't say anything. The only thing it really says is "let's make this a normal game", without really giving any opinions on the current situation. Also note that he was basically forced to contribute, and this is one of those things that I call "contributing without really contributing." On November 27 2010 13:51 annul wrote: ps i voted for darth because a random vote on drh is pretty frowntown given the daily circumstances Very weak reason for a lynch. Obviously darth is going to change, or at the very least it was a semi joke by darth. On November 27 2010 14:15 annul wrote: haunted and insane actually had a lot of content to discuss on day 1, surprisingly enough Irrelevant sentence. Extra Point: This PM he had with Dr. H was suspicious. Dr. H and I discussed it here. Note that annul said coag seemed suscipcious "despite his defense of dr. h" Now, why would that make coag LESS suspicious unless he knew that Dr. H was town? I will point out here it is possible that he just felt strongly that dr. h WAS town, but this is suspicious nonetheless. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Pandain: wow thats definitely suscipcious ----------------------------------------- Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: maybe i didnt like his response to my pm why does he trust me and say "despite his defense of you", why would defending me make coagulation innocent unless he knew I was town? doesnt seem like something a townie would say ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Pandain: i voted annul. I think it's pretty suscipcious how he's posting, only "contributed" after being called out on that. In addition, it seems to me he's just trying to contribute without really contributing, if you take a look at his posts its either spam or "Well..so far everything is normal." Hasn't offered any thoughts. Usually he does, so what do you think? | ||
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For what? Seriously it would be stupid to lynch me. | ||
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Node is to be lynched. | ||
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shush ##Revive :p + Show Spoiler + Or the ##Pardon that everyone got mad at me about in that one game | ||
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FADOODLE YEAH | ||
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Furthormore, let's take a look at the votes that DID change the vote. KtheZ Towards kenpachi)I think I'll vote for kenpachi. He has not been an asset to town, so either he is being lazy or he is not trying to help town. The other leading candidate for lynch, pandain, at least has taken the time to post analysis of some people. I would much rather lynch a person who is not productive than a person who actively contributes. decent i suppose Esben(even tie for brownbear) On November 28 2010 08:12 EsbenPM wrote: Hmm, i'm going to vote Brownbear for now as his action seems the strangest so far. As people has pointed out all he has done is trying to get discussion going and then disapear with no follow up what so ever. While the case aganist him is kindda weak i feel lynching an inactive(Who supposedly played the same way and was mafia) is better then lynching players who are actually posting and can be caught at a later time. Besides him the main candidates Kenpachi and Pandain just seems like people who have become targetted because there are no one else. Kenpachi have acted strange/dum, but i feel like people are looking too hard for something that aint there, and the main case aganist pandain was his inactivity which he has cleared up, so for now i don't want to vote for either of them. Decent reason, a bit weak however since he admits the case is "weak" but then clarifies he wants to lynch an inactive. Slightly suspicious. Youngminii towards kenpachi)On November 28 2010 08:50 youngminii wrote: lol DrH, role fishing like that in a learning game, not a very cool move. Out of Kenpachi and BB who seem to be the lynch candidates (besides me kinda) I'd have to go for Kenpachi. I don't really want to vote for any of them but Kenpachi's cluelessness/reluctance to defend himself is more worrying than the reasons against BB. Sorry Slightly weak. Just being clueless is hardly a reason to lynch someone, unless they're a vet and it's just outright unfathomable for them to do that. But again, says that's more worrying than the reasons against BB, which is slightly right. We didn't really have a strong read on either player, just a decent one. Aeres tied)Now THIS is actually somewhat suspicious. Let's take a look: On November 28 2010 09:24 Aeres wrote: I said my vote wasn't absolute, because I wouldn't have been able to foresee major events happening between the time of my vote and the lynching. I still think you're a prime candidate for a lynch, due in part to your past apathy and your current fishiness. The annul analysis seems most convincing in my eyes, so I would have voted for him if it weren't for the fact that it's only you and BrownBear that are viable lynchees tonight. Since I'd rather make my vote matter, and because I'm not sold on BrownBear just yet, my vote remains on you. I just realized that I've been particularly antagonistic to you in every game I've played with you. Understand, I'm not holding a grudge, but I'm just working off what I know about your behavior and tendencies. No hard feelings. Previous post, states he would like annul lynched, says since he's not convinced on brownbear he'll vote kenpachi. Leaves it open though. On November 28 2010 09:44 Aeres wrote: If I may be candid, it's not that I think you're Mafia, it's that I felt you were a liability regardless of your alignment. If you ARE Mafia, then lynching you is obviously a thumbs up for the town, but based on my past observations of your play, your town game is... lacking. But... you have a point there. I've decided to be a gentleman and give you the benefit of the doubt. Your posting frequency and quality have definitely improved from Haunted, so I'll let you off the hook. My vote will be changed to BrownBear now. But now the onus is on you. Convince me that this vote switch is warranted, and prove to me that you're not the couch potato you were in October! =D ... whoops. *hides* Then here he changes. The most striking thing to note is that Aeres left himself an out, that he could be convinced, a convienant excuse for mafia if kenpachi was indeed mafia, since if kenpachi got too many votes he could change. The only vote in between was Darth voting kenpachi, making it 8-7, 7 for brownbear. When aeres changed it became 7-8, 7 for Kenpachi. Now, can people chane their minds? Certainly. But this is just something to keep in mind. There is something in support of aeres, let's post it here. This is where he originally voted kenpachi, On November 28 2010 04:00 Aeres wrote: ##Unvote femalewheel (lol) ##Vote Kenpachi Another placeholder, but more concrete this time. Kenpachi's play has been apathetic at best in recent games, so for now, I'll vote for him. Nothing definite, but until / unless some major development occurs in the thread or in PMs or something, I'm all for the lynch of a confirmed lurker. Here it is in accordance with the whole "he isn't that good anyway", so yay for aeres. Furthormore, it actually tied kenpachi in the lead(he was below previously), so it doesn't make much sense if he voted kenpachi to put him in the lead so early in the game. Right now I say Aeres is cleared from suspicion. Ghrur: On November 28 2010 09:50 ghrur wrote: Well, Pandain's posted since I was last on, and now it seems it's between Kenpachi and Brownbear. Let's compare: Kenpachi has been open Kenpachi is really trying to improve Kenpachi has been more active in the thread Brownbear also seems to be less concentrated because he apparently didn't even read the OP. Overall, I think that, from a perspective outside the game, we should keep Kenpachi in so he can learn more because this is a bootcamp game. From a perspective inside the game, despite Kenpachi's lacking history, Brownbear honestly isn't a better town candidate. He's just as, if not more, clueless talking about voting for mayor and such. Furthermore, he hasn't even tried to clear his name. He hasn't even been shown to be on. EZ choice imo. Decent reason, if a bit silly for bringing the "let him learn!" argument. Conclusion: I believe this was most likely between two townies. Furthormore, Kenpachi being checked is a no-no, as there's a good chance he's a second chaos ensurgent because of his claim of "special townie." So DT checking him would bring no good. The votes seem to be decent enough, and even though Aeres seems suspicious at first glance, is actually in accordance with his previous thoughts. | ||
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lol @ faces  | ||
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<3 you decondou! AMERICA! | ||
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Furthormore aidnai was on it too, yet he turned town. And so was decondou, and he was blue! | ||
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On November 29 2010 12:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'd bet money that you aren't the chaos ensurgent. Pandain just wants to think he's struck gold. You're backed into a corner and tbh in my mind it's a stalemate between you being mafia or node/youngminii/dta being mafia. You're suspicious based on objective principles but DTA/Youngminii/Node have all ACTED very scummy to me. But the inconsistency lies with Ghrur. + Show Spoiler + Its hilarious cause he's starting to know me.... | ||
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On November 29 2010 12:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i'm starting to know you? uh what does that mean exactly + Show Spoiler + rawr | ||
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