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On June 04 2010 11:44 Incognito wrote: How bout I make you a Veteran and I give mafia aligned dayvig to someone who has a grudge against you? Very nice...We must keep the tradition alive. Lol. If Radfield lives past night one, he must be lynched. He is clearly mafia if this occurs. | ||
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On June 06 2010 06:09 Iaaan wrote: I just realized how busy I'm going to be in the next month, so I would like to unsign up. Its not fun having an afk player o: Sorry D: As I was told when I did this, Thank you for not going afk mid game. =D | ||
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On June 10 2010 08:17 meeple wrote: That sounds fine but how do you propose we "make" everyone talk. Usually the plan for lynching an inactive on the first day stems from the strategy of making people talk. Yea....We usually lynch inactives to make people talk. Kinda became a part of the meta game. On June 10 2010 14:18 Vivi57 wrote: What makes you think we only have 4 townies this round. You really think there's 7 blues? We're going to have at most 1 vig, whether its day or night. There's no way we'll have a watcher, tracker, *and* dt. And I wouldn't be surprised if we had 0 hatters and 0 vets. Ridiculous. A night vig most likely. Maybe even a night one hit. I'd say the watcher is the more powerful of trackers/watchers/dt's in my opinion. Like what happened to L in the three kingdoms game. Being able to see all visitors is usually very nice, ya know? Prob the vig, most likely a watchers/tracker or watcher/dt (differing sanities?) imo. Definitely a medic (of differing qualities?), and most likely a vet. | ||
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I'd guess the mafia are planning privately right now. So they probably aren't posting too much. If we're serious about this role claiming, we're giving them a lot to decide. Who claims what, risk/reward type shit. But since we've had a dt claim we can use him to our advantage. So we must get his sanity established...Do we have him check somebody, and then lynch the person the next day? Just check and hope mafia kills the person? Maybe he's paranoid? Lots of problems come up from this. I dunno what the best course of action is, I'm not usually that good at coming up with plans for the town. =( | ||
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On June 11 2010 02:03 tree.hugger wrote: Posts like this, which don't help, say a couple really obvious generic things, and which address what the mafia 'might be doing' while the poster does the opposite... Red flags? Mafia list: A5J OpZ Because I fail at planning? Are you kidding me. Go shove it. I'm better at watching and analyzing than coming up with a direction. My only time EVER coming up with a plan was Ace's WaW when it was a lylo situation. But here, Let me point out something that someone else did (which was the same as me) On June 11 2010 02:16 Radfield wrote: My guess would be that mafia will roleclaim as 3 townies and 1 blue role, the blue role will likely be claimed near the end. I doubt we have doubles of any role, as there is simply no need with this amount of players, and the number of potential open roles. So any blue-claiming right off the bat is very very risky. So wait what? Radfield says this...which I say the mafia are probably discussing all this too...But red flags pop up for me?...Ok...That makes sense. He just gave numbers... On June 11 2010 05:31 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Ok my 1) point was wrong, for some reason I had it in my head last night that when you lynch a miller they flip townie, my bad. For 2), there is also the possibility that the DT is paranoid but town aligned, how do you deal with that? For 3), the whole point is that we have no idea how many blues there are. I thought you'd be smart enough to get this, but apparently not. What if 1 or 2 mafia infiltrate the blue ranks? If we get suspicious about the inflated blue count and focus all of our attention on the blues, we'll be wasting a ton of lynches and faulty role checks while the mafia are picking blues off. If all 4 mafia go into the blues, we have no way to know whether there are 0,1,2,3, or 4 mafia in the blues. We can only guess, and its too risky to just start lynching blues 1 by 1 in case there really are a lot of blues. So L posts a clearly risky plan, and when I jump in to criticize the first thing a couple people do is flag me as mafia. GREAT play guys. Also L if you know of flaws then post them so we can work out potential solutions until people jump the gun and start RCing. Besides, if you know your plan had flaws then why did you post it in the first place? I advise NO ONE to RC until this shit is worked out. L has NOT filled in the details of his plan. Ya know...I feel the same way. Lol...I mean, lets just give the mafia a hitlist of people that might just be important....How could that possibly be bad? I demand L post more of his BS plan too. Also, I'm never down with taking claims completely at face value anyway, but power claims did come early. In the interest of argument, about the number of people that claim town, do you really expect all blues to step forward? I mean, medics? Hatters? | ||
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On June 11 2010 07:51 tree.hugger wrote: Damn, you got me. I pointed out that among all of the unhelpful things you wrote in your post, you also managed to say that the mafia was doing something very standard and obvious. Then, 13 minutes after I made this accusation, Radfield also suggests a possible move for the mafia (albeit much more helpful as it is specific) and you accuse me of not accusing Radfield of the same thing 13 minutes before he said it. I'm clearly mafia. Also, anyone who doesn't roleclaim at this point is injuring the town. As I said earlier, we either mass roleclaim and thereby defend ourselves through numbers, while forcing the mafia into an awkward spot, or we half roleclaim, leave our blues exposed, while still giving the mafia room to hide. Which means that we need people to roleclaim pronto, (L, for example should set an example), and we need to pick a lynch target. Obviously the medic should protect one of us blues, and give the mafia some doubt as to who to target. Ohhhhhhh so the inclusion of numbers makes him less mafia. Okay. Thanks for clarification. There are four mafia. Am I doin it right? | ||
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On June 11 2010 22:16 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: If I am not much mistaken, JohnnySpazz is just not a very good player and always looks generally fishy. I wouldn't mind getting his confusion/potential mafianess out of the way early. Although some of the things AFJ said were kind of "...wtf?" he didn't even read the rules for one of them, I generally think that is mafiaish, having not read the rules correctly because I used to just skim them when I was mafia and not read 100% because it wasn't as important, after a few fuck ups I started always reading it a couple of times. Oh and L, sorry I must of just missed that in your post, I assume when we finally confirm one player we have the Vigi/MH legitimately role claim to them via PM, so we drop some confusion. Also lol@9 greens role claiming. Spazz ain't really that bad...He has his moments. He has nothing on BM, or Chez on a bad day, just he isn't as funny. He has a few posts of good content in some other games. I'm green. -_- Why did we have to get stuck with this shitty plan. I'm all for slaughtering L for this PoS plan, so I guess I'ma fall in that tree.hugger camp. Even though tree.hugger was the first to claim....ridiculous. | ||
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On June 12 2010 07:47 Radfield wrote: Blue Roles: Seems very unlikely that we have two detectives, also seems unlikely that Ludwig is not a detective, as he roleclaimed very early on, and really doesn't seem like the type of player to roleclaim blue if he's mafia. Personally I think Moocow is lying, but he should get a pass for the moment given our claiming plan. He's an obvious target for the mafia, so if he hasn't died after a few nights, we start thinking about lynching him. If any blue roles have claimed green in the thread(medics/vets/hatters etc.), you should think about roleclaiming to tree.hugger or ludwig, who strike me as very likely pro-town. Lynch candidates for tonight seem to be meeple and Jspazz. I disagree with both of these choices. Unfortunately I don't have a real great alternative right now, as I don't have time to scour for people who are coasting. Redtooth and Foolishness both posted early on, but haven't given much input once the roleclaims really starting coming in, and haven't given input into lynching. Vivi57 kinda falls in this category as well. Probably other people as well. Also, I really don't like that Flamewheel voted for himself, abstaining is a bad thing for the town, but he's probably town, as I doubt a mafia would want to draw attention to himself. Honestly AcrossFiveJulys(and Citi.zen for that matter) still strikes me as possible mafia, but he's been active, which is worth a lot of suspicion. I'd honestly rather have an active mafia then an inactive townie. In reference to the mafia hitting moocow, or ludwig, one would prob be med protected and the other is prob a vet or hatter...So killing him after a few days if he lives (and doesn't take a hit), which he is almost guaranteed to do because the mafia won't want to fuck themselves over would be kinda pointless...I feel it would be a waste of a lynch to lynch moocow. Ludwig claimed first, and language barrier/relative mafia newbie, I'd take his claim as the real...But don't disregard MooCow's claim, because he most assuredly is blue. On June 12 2010 07:51 meeple wrote: Ahaha... why is when I leave the thread it turns into a "I hate meeple crapfest"... for christ's sake people just relax. I'm bound to scramble in here on the deadline in any case. I am a watcher so that settle everyone down a bit. Chez might not ever rc... whatever. I never roleclaimed to Ludwig~ and he should check his pms to confirm, since I definitely never told him that. I was talking with Ludwig since I wanted to get an idea why he roleclaimed so quickly with L's plan and whether or not I can trust him or not. I'll be back in a bit with my vote on who to lynch and the reasoning in a little bit. You should of been pming tree.hugger, he claimed FIRST. Not to mention he doesn't even really like L...lmao -_-...Silly rabbit. On June 12 2010 08:08 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: radfield why do you think tree.hugger is our most confirmed? because he RC'd first? that's not necessarily 100% townie behavior, because if he's a mafia who realized that L's plan sucks he's the one that set it in motion by being the first to RC... Again, we agree. Tree.Hugger doesn't even like L...Kinda weird he was the first to jump on L's plan...You know...Given L didn't even jump on his own plan? -_- 4, naive, paranoid, insane...and sane and actually found a mafia... Anyway, if it comes back red? We lynch. Duh?...And we just believe he's insane....Unless it comes back green the some day in the future. Also, I'm scummy for posting my idea on what the mafia will probably do? I was COMPLETELY against L's plan to role claim? Why the hell would I go along with a plan I feel is retarded? A5J seemed to of agreed with that logic, but people started without any real discussion of L's plan and just decided to follow it. -_- On June 12 2010 23:17 Radfield wrote: The reason we should discuss this now, is because we need to decide on a day 2 lynch candidate during night one. The best way to begin to establish sanity is to lynch whomever the dt's check. So while we could just leave it up to them to decide, I think it makes more sense to discuss it as a group and figure out who the best target is. Your plan is to not bother having people post for the next 10 hours and just wait for the night to end? I realize we don't have a lot of information to go on right now, but that's why we need to encourage people to post their thoughts. And we do have some info, we have the Day 1 votes, our role-claims, the order the role-claims came in, and everyone's (short) posting history. It's enough for some conjecture. I liked moocow's idea or checking meeple. He had the second most votes, but that doesn't mean much. It was his idea. BUT Meeple did claim watcher soooooo....Lol...I think that puts a big X on that idea... On June 13 2010 03:00 MooCow wrote: What do you guys think of Chez? If he is going to get mod killed from inactivity we can experiment on him. I hope not though because he seems like a fun mafia guy to play with. Chez...Inactive? Lulz...You better enjoy the quiet moments while you can. Lol. P.s. if they turn up red, lynch red....you either sane or paranoid....So...we would kinda have it down unless they hit another red the next night...(Who was nailing the fuck outta faction leaders in Caller's game? Lmao...epic dt status) | ||
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On June 13 2010 03:28 Bill Murray wrote: bookmarked for usa england Bomberman?! | ||
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Okay, his opinion on AFJ...well killing him to establish sanity...narrows down the sanities....But it doesn't help us fantastically... It will either give us naive or insane if he's mafia, or sane or naive if he really is town (which I believe). He was role blocked. How many of you realized townies were pm'd if they were role blocked. I mean it seems kinda weird he would be role blocked, but why isn't it possible? Better question is why didn't the watcher watch him anyway? (Whoever said we didn't know if a med was in the game, meeple said the med visited ludwig last night). I don't feel AFJ has been that suspicious at all tbh, and is all but confirmed in my eyes. About your other suspects Radfield, I'm fine with citizen, or RoL...I don't recall much from either of them, but inactivity doesn't state that much for suspicion. Now...about RoL....AFJ had a decent summary on him that convinced me lynching RoL might be worth it...But that's about it. He hasn't given any content to truly analyze. | ||
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Anyway, sorry guys. Didn't expect this to take as much time as it did. | ||
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On June 15 2010 16:29 ~OpZ~ wrote: Sorry guys. Had a meeting with my union rep today in savannah. Getting my job back. Will post some tomorrow morning. Had to celebrate lol...dressed way too nice for the bars lol.. Anyway, sorry guys. Didn't expect this to take as much time as it did. Actually was away in Savannah with my union rep getting my job back... Oi...Seriously didn't think it would take that long.....>_<...F uuuuuuuu | ||
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