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gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 14:33:27
April 12 2010 14:18 GMT
#1
Just some of the samples of the Korean responses from DC inside. The place is going at about 10 posts a second so this is a very rough sample.
http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=starcraft


'You know, it's too late to go back, so why don't we just do what WWE does? A player can jump out of his booth after the game and hit the other guy with a chair or something.'

'And we'll never get to see him win if this is over... (a photo of yellow)'

'I bet Blizzard is behind the scandal. Cui Bono?'

'You know, losing intentionally like Savior did isn't so bad. What's worse is the coaches who bought the stolen replays and used it to devise a winning strategy. They oughtta be hanged.'

'Hey, aren't you guys supposed to be worried? You guys seem to enjoy this wayyy too much.'
Someone responds 'No, the scandal is wayyy over the top we can't really take this seriously anymore. lol'

'I'm pretty sure Savior needs all the money to buy himself expensive clothing every season.' (He's often seen with expensive watches and clothes that cost thousands of dollars)

'Hey can you guys tell me the suspected games Savior lost intentionally?'
Someone responds 'Yeah, just off top of my head there are few games Savior lost because he didn't get Adrenaline upgrade although he had a Hive.'

'I know who didn't rig his matches - Boxer. He's been here 10 years and I doubt he would've let that happen to himself. That guy loves the scene. It's his baby, and I very much doubt he's involved in any way.'
Someone responds 'And Reach. He's just too straight to do such thing.' (Everyone below agrees)

'Why is everyone implicating Savior before any solid evidence has been brought forth?'
Responds are 'Two evidence - being removed from captain and not attending behavior education course.' 'You gotta suspect something if they don't attend behavior education and gets wiped off the roster.' 'A gambling site admin mentioned his name in the past.'

'3 Bunker rush, beating a blind guy, and crying after beating oov... For all his faults, I think Boxer is the purest of purest gamers. We gotta hold the offenders responsible and put them in jail. It just makes me feel dumb to think I laughed and cried with the wins and losses of the league. '

'Hey you know what's funny? The special interview between boxer and savior. Just to think boxer suggested savior to create pro-gamer union for betterment of pro-gamer treatment... I think boxer would be ashamed he ever said that. Talk about telling a crook to be a police.

'I almost wish 3.3 was rigged. That means Savior is actually good!'

'You know who's smart? Elky. He's rich AND gambles legally.'

'SC scene is done for, and it'll go the way of WC3 scene in Korea. Remember how it just took one edited map to take down the whole league?'

One more


'This is all because the SC league scene is still relatively thin. Other games such as Baseball, Basketball and Soccer doesn't suffer from same problem although they have their illegal betting sites. The players and the coaches have a means to sustain their livelihood through the sports they're involved in even after they retire, but for SC players, they have at most 3~4 years (as opposed to 10+ years for other actual sports). Of course they'll be anxious about their future, combined with young naive players with no strong moral fiber is a recipe for corruption. I'm pretty sure these young players don't even know they've become a part of the ring.
It just goes to show what an irony E-sports is.'
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
April 12 2010 14:20 GMT
#2
'You know who's smart? Elky. He's rich AND gambles legally.'


hahaha
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Origami
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States266 Posts
April 12 2010 14:22 GMT
#3
'SC scene is done for, and it'll go the way of WC3 scene in Korea. Remember how it just took one edited map to take down the whole league?'


Wait what?
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
April 12 2010 14:25 GMT
#4
Someone responds 'And Reach. He's just too straight to do such thing.' (Everyone below agrees)


hahaha Reach is just too manly
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
April 12 2010 14:25 GMT
#5
On April 12 2010 23:22 Origami wrote:
Show nested quote +
'SC scene is done for, and it'll go the way of WC3 scene in Korea. Remember how it just took one edited map to take down the whole league?'


Wait what?



WC3 league edited a map against Moon so he'd lose sometime.

But Moon still won anyways, and the edits were found out eventually.
Rodiel
Profile Joined August 2006
France573 Posts
April 12 2010 14:28 GMT
#6
:o
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1614 Posts
April 12 2010 14:29 GMT
#7
Damn, sAviOr will always stay a mystery until the end. We'll never know what is his current skill.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 14:31:55
April 12 2010 14:29 GMT
#8
On April 12 2010 23:22 Origami wrote:
Show nested quote +
'SC scene is done for, and it'll go the way of WC3 scene in Korea. Remember how it just took one edited map to take down the whole league?'


Wait what?


Here the story

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113255
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/9111-MBC_Map_Scandal_Update



'I'm pretty sure Savior needs all the money to buy himself expensive clothing every season.' (He's often seen with expensive watches and clothes that cost thousands of dollars)


Didn't know Savior liked expensive stuff sure smell fishy
Firebathero fanboy - It's not that i'm dumb i'm just controlled by a retarded infestor - Day[9]
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 12 2010 14:30 GMT
#9
'I'm pretty sure Savior needs all the money to buy himself expensive clothing every season.' (He's often seen with expensive watches and clothes that cost thousands of dollars)

A HA!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
April 12 2010 14:33 GMT
#10
On April 12 2010 23:25 gaggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 23:22 Origami wrote:
'SC scene is done for, and it'll go the way of WC3 scene in Korea. Remember how it just took one edited map to take down the whole league?'


Wait what?



WC3 league edited a map against Moon so he'd lose sometime.

But Moon still won anyways, and the edits were found out eventually.


lol, fanboi much?

Several maps were edited and some very popular gamers won games that seemed impossible whiched helped the league increase in popularity.
I
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
April 12 2010 14:34 GMT
#11
gotta love how they come to defend boxer right away.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 12 2010 14:37 GMT
#12
Ma Bonjwa, tsk tsk...

Some of the comments are hilarious though, glad to know Korean netizens haven't lost their sense of humor.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
April 12 2010 14:41 GMT
#13
I can't wait to see how this develops! *F5*
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
April 12 2010 14:41 GMT
#14
On April 12 2010 23:22 Origami wrote:
Show nested quote +
'SC scene is done for, and it'll go the way of WC3 scene in Korea. Remember how it just took one edited map to take down the whole league?'


Wait what?

It's what made (Wiki)Freedom quit WarCraft III and switch to StarCraft.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 14:47:40
April 12 2010 14:45 GMT
#15
'You know, it's too late to go back, so why don't we just do what WWE does? A player can jump out of his booth after the game and hit the other guy with a chair or something.'


bahaha



'This is all because the SC league scene is still relatively thin. Other games such as Baseball, Basketball and Soccer doesn't suffer from same problem although they have their illegal betting sites. The players and the coaches have a means to sustain their livelihood through the sports they're involved in even after they retire, but for SC players, they have at most 3~4 years (as opposed to 10+ years for other actual sports). Of course they'll be anxious about their future, combined with young naive players with no strong moral fiber is a recipe for corruption. I'm pretty sure these young players don't even know they've become a part of the ring.
It just goes to show what an irony E-sports is.'


Thats pretty insightful. I'd expect general consensus to eventually come to this, I think its close to it already here at tl.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
April 12 2010 15:06 GMT
#16
On April 12 2010 23:29 Squallcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
'I'm pretty sure Savior needs all the money to buy himself expensive clothing every season.' (He's often seen with expensive watches and clothes that cost thousands of dollars)


Didn't know Savior liked expensive stuff sure smell fishy

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economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
April 12 2010 15:10 GMT
#17
lololol
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
April 12 2010 15:29 GMT
#18
LOL konadora
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1614 Posts
April 12 2010 15:32 GMT
#19
HAHA WTF!!! fucking columbo!!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 12 2010 15:32 GMT
#20
On April 12 2010 23:22 Origami wrote:
Show nested quote +
'SC scene is done for, and it'll go the way of WC3 scene in Korea. Remember how it just took one edited map to take down the whole league?'


Wait what?


They made a map be much more favorable to the race of the first place guy so he would win again. When they found out Wc3 pretty much died in korea
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
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