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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 15:39:25
April 12 2010 15:39 GMT
#21
omg :D the watch !

;D
hatred outlives the hateful
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
April 12 2010 15:39 GMT
#22
I hope all of it was worth it for that watch, Savior.
SC2Pandemic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States18 Posts
April 12 2010 15:42 GMT
#23
Nice watch
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
April 12 2010 15:42 GMT
#24
On April 13 2010 00:39 SiDX wrote:
I hope all of it was worth it for that watch, Savior.


I'd do it for a watch that cool.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 12 2010 15:53 GMT
#25
The adrenal upgrades... it all makes sense.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 12 2010 16:02 GMT
#26
On April 12 2010 23:18 gaggar wrote:
'This is all because the SC league scene is still relatively thin. Other games such as Baseball, Basketball and Soccer doesn't suffer from same problem although they have their illegal betting sites. The players and the coaches have a means to sustain their livelihood through the sports they're involved in even after they retire, but for SC players, they have at most 3~4 years (as opposed to 10+ years for other actual sports). Of course they'll be anxious about their future, combined with young naive players with no strong moral fiber is a recipe for corruption. I'm pretty sure these young players don't even know they've become a part of the ring.
It just goes to show what an irony E-sports is.'


I don't know the details because I don't really care about soccer, but as far as I know we recently had a huge scandal like this in the German Bundesliga (highest national soccer league). I think there also were scandals in other leagues/countries at the same time. It also included teams/players/referees influencing/intentionally losing games. So I don't really think that this has just happened because of the nature of current esports.
This pretty much is possible in any sport where a lot of money can be made based on the outcome of a match and where single people can influence the outcome greatly without really making it obvious. In Soccer a player can just "accidentially" miss whatever he was "aiming" for. In SC a player can just make a few micro/macro mistakes here and there, miss an important timing and it'll just look like he had a bad day.

This didn't happen because players are anxious about their future. It happened because there was a lot of money to be made.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 12 2010 16:14 GMT
#27
Serie A was the biggest scandal and this is one of the highest level leagues in the world. Especially as SC is 1v1 you really cannot stop this, its always going to be a possibility.
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
April 12 2010 16:16 GMT
#28
On April 13 2010 01:14 infinity2k9 wrote:
Serie A was the biggest scandal and this is one of the highest level leagues in the world. Especially as SC is 1v1 you really cannot stop this, its always going to be a possibility.

Well, you could revoke the players' progaming licence if they have been caught rigging matches repeatedly.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
April 12 2010 16:18 GMT
#29
LOL Kona awesome work.
shame on you Savior.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 12 2010 16:22 GMT
#30
On April 13 2010 01:16 Slugbreath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 01:14 infinity2k9 wrote:
Serie A was the biggest scandal and this is one of the highest level leagues in the world. Especially as SC is 1v1 you really cannot stop this, its always going to be a possibility.

Well, you could revoke the players' progaming licence if they have been caught rigging matches repeatedly.


Well yes at a minimum i'd expect this just from finding 1 game proven rigged. But i mean there will will always be people willing to risk it in the future if the money is worth it, no matter what the punishments before.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 16:37:35
April 12 2010 16:36 GMT
#31
On April 13 2010 01:16 Slugbreath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 01:14 infinity2k9 wrote:
Serie A was the biggest scandal and this is one of the highest level leagues in the world. Especially as SC is 1v1 you really cannot stop this, its always going to be a possibility.

Well, you could revoke the players' progaming licence if they have been caught rigging matches repeatedly.


I think the punishment will be far more serious than that. They will want to make an example out of those progamers found guilty.

Korean laws are really strict against gambling and match-fixing is even worse.
When Shin Hye Sung (kpop star) visited a Macau Casino (note, he didn't even gamble while he was in Korea), he was convicted and given a fine. When a Korean tv host was found to have gambled online at some Philippines website, he was sacked, black listed and given a suspended jail sentence + community service.

So I expect at least a suspended jail sentence.

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KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
April 12 2010 16:39 GMT
#32
Rolex has sponsored competitive BW for a long time. It's likely the watch was either given to him or he got it at a huge discount anyways.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 12 2010 16:40 GMT
#33
Like I said in the other thread, they should make a prison tournament. I want to see how good Savior really is and risk of horrible horrible butt rape is probably a good enough motivation as any.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 12 2010 16:41 GMT
#34
On April 13 2010 01:39 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
Rolex has sponsored competitive BW for a long time. It's likely the watch was either given to him or he got it at a huge discount anyways.


Good point. Anyway I hope they make some arrests soon so those who aren't involved in this can be cleared of suspicion.
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
April 12 2010 16:42 GMT
#35
On April 13 2010 01:36 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 01:16 Slugbreath wrote:
On April 13 2010 01:14 infinity2k9 wrote:
Serie A was the biggest scandal and this is one of the highest level leagues in the world. Especially as SC is 1v1 you really cannot stop this, its always going to be a possibility.

Well, you could revoke the players' progaming licence if they have been caught rigging matches repeatedly.


I think the punishment will be far more serious than that. They will want to make an example out of those progamers found guilty.

Korean laws are really strict against gambling and match-fixing is even worse.
When Shin Hye Sung (kpop star) visited a Macau Casino (note, he didn't even gamble while he was in Korea), he was convicted and given a fine. When a Korean tv host was found to have gambled online at some Philippines website, he was sacked, black listed and given a suspended jail sentence + community service.

So I expect at least a suspended jail sentence.



Wow that's pretty intense. Sounds almost draconian. I'm hoping they don't get treated this harshly (not the suspended sentence part but rather as badly as the kpop star and tv host).
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7035 Posts
April 12 2010 16:43 GMT
#36
On April 13 2010 01:39 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
Rolex has sponsored competitive BW for a long time. It's likely the watch was either given to him or he got it at a huge discount anyways.

What? I've never ever noticed Rolex sponsoring anything or have their name anywhere and I've been watching professioanl SC for a loong time. What have they sponsored exactly?
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 12 2010 16:46 GMT
#37
On April 13 2010 00:39 SiDX wrote:
I hope all of it was worth it for that watch, Savior.


If he could afford that watch he probably has enough money by now to live comfortably for the rest of his life. In that vain it was probably worth it...considering earning potential after playing professional SC is what...nothing?
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the PUNisher
Profile Joined August 2008
Romania21 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 16:50:06
April 12 2010 16:49 GMT
#38
Just because a secretary sucked your ex-presidents dick and you talked about it for 2 years doesnt mean you can expect the typical american drama here. Even if its true KeSPa will just force the players to retire quietly and wont let a cheesy tiger woods story to happen here as well. This is getting indeed way over the top
Drop that pun and put your hands behind your head!!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 12 2010 16:50 GMT
#39
Sea makes some comments about the rumours:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119444
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7035 Posts
April 12 2010 16:51 GMT
#40
On April 13 2010 01:46 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 00:39 SiDX wrote:
I hope all of it was worth it for that watch, Savior.


If he could afford that watch he probably has enough money by now to live comfortably for the rest of his life. In that vain it was probably worth it...considering earning potential after playing professional SC is what...nothing?

He's a super star enough he could get a lot of jobs related to media and stuff like that I am sure, just like Nal Ra and so on.

I doubt he's going to get away just having to retire though, wouldn't this be jail time in western countries at least and shouldn't asia be more strict about gambling than western countries?
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