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player associations for future reference: ng5 - "The older you are the better you were." magicbullet - singapore abenson - in addition to the philipines appliance store stuff, "Your average D- noob zerg", canada DoctorHelvetica - the helvetica font, a pic of flash with osl trophy, "Seiya Fighting! | vice-commander of the "loli is not a crime club" PM me or konadora to join!", united states citi.zen - "Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.", others have covered this ohn - it's a electronic band, or oklahoma health network, or occupational health nurse, united states the_master - has a broken choc chip cookie pic, "[CPL]Master on team Prodigies!", canada jayme - has an inverted color pic of a kitten, "Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.", united states (btw: you're wrong, python rocks) cynanmachae - machae are greek gods of battle of some sort, "-I will destroyed everyone, again, in 2009. Thank you - Ma "sAviOr" Jae Yoon", canada blue_arrow - chicken dance vid hyperbola - squad eating a crab? plus another pic of some landscape and something I can't perceive mystlord - "eye am the strongest" fallen_ark - Life is precious, yet insignificant t_co - silverlake, "Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis tredmaster - some pretty girl pics, "Bo Peep Bo Peep Oh! | <3 한승연!!! | OSUFAM FIGHTING!" meeple - is a A small person-shaped figure used as a player's token in a board game. quote: "Into the fray my friends, may our feet be swift, our hands be sure, and our necks keep a firm grasp on our heads." + some awkward starcraft poetry bill murray - an actor. "i got blisters on me fingers" ghote - as others have said, a fictional detective, yellow submarine lyrics flamewheel91 - pic of a chinese athelete? nikoner - maybe nikon cameras? from bulgaria Phrujbaz - "Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.", a blurb about the board game Go ser aspi - both ser and aspi are acronymns for a bunch of things, france derfboy - a lot of slang definitions for derf, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derf, "Saboteur! Saboteur!", united states jugan - a saint, founders of 'little sisters of the poor' - pic of guy and girl, "I is losted :/", united states keit - a small computer company? cookie monster pic, and animated bug, sweden kane]deth[ - canada johannesH - lots of famous people with first name johannes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes skronch - a student networking site to borrow stuff dinmsab - "Tribute to the commanders of the Terran empire", malaysia [nyc]hobbes - hobbes the tiger, hobbes the philosopher, nyc - new york city? "Calvin: Hobbes, what do you think happens when we die? Hobbes: I think we play saxophone for an all-girl cabaret in New Orleans." zona - some odd gadget for lowering blood pressure? a site about girdles? a membrane of some sort? and shingles, like others have mentioned. a music company? so many weird things. "Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!" (but nothing like this will pop up, since I'm not mafia.) I wonder if the month/day a person registered comes into play? today's mafia specific clues: #1:barbaric noises, lifting fists to taunt, kicked victim into the refrigerator, knife, apple, shove down throat #2:thin knife, ran forward and stabbed, "lifeblood seeping from his wound" dragged body into the closet, cleaned up pool of blood have clues appeared outside of passages describing the mafia member kills in past games? | ||
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To be honest I think mayor/sheriff should be people who are active, but also with the emptiest/most unambiguous profiles, so that if any clues are given linking that person to the mafia, hopefully they would be more obvious. It is most imperative that if either/both the major and/or sheriff are mafia, that they be lynched ASAP. I can't think of any ideas for the clues you guys haven't mentioned. I don't want to burn out day 1 so I'm not going to think any more about it until we have more clues. | ||
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And to be honest, until the endgame, trying to out our special townies is very anti-town. | ||
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The rules say the mafia can kill themselves, but I'm not sure if they can withhold some/all of their allotted kills. (If they can, the game becomes a lot harder for the town, in my view.) Anyways, if they can't withhold their kill, the incarceration power is best used on suspected mafia, when there's an odd number of them. That way, if the number of kills is reduced, then either the incarcerated person WAS a mafia, or we had a lucky (or smart?) medic. (If we had a lucky vigilante, that would be obvious in the message.) The strength of the sheriff/mayor come from their immunities. Actually the way I look at it is that a mafia sheriff or mayor is a much bigger boost to the mafia than a town sheriff/mayor to the town, as a mafia sheriff/mayor is immune to detective role check, can easily explain why they haven't been nightkilled despite whatever they do in the thread. The mayor triple vote is a strong power that becomes even stronger in the endgame, though. | ||
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No lynching is usually a bad idea because whoever votes on the lynch grants information as the mafia usually need to work together at least a little to avoid being lynch victims. In the case of day 1, lynching gives information as to the mayor, and the mayor is a very powerful role in my view, I think the lynch should go through. But then again I'm more used to mafia games where mods don't give clues, so I'm uncertain whether the value of how people voted is greater, or clues. The newcomer thing can just simply be story, not clues. After all, story-wise the mafia have just arrived in town. | ||
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Also although I think it's not a good idea for the mafia to sacrifice one of their own so early, as basically each member is a 'extra life' for the mafia (so to speak) and losing one early means they have one less shield to win the game, don't automatically think they'll be obvious about everything they do. Members won't always vote in their own favor to make it less obvious, etc. | ||
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Of course, the take it a level beyond, maybe the mafia will kill anyone with the best suspicions, because we as a town don't assume they will kill whoever has the best suspicions. But yes, that t_co thing is fishy. I am in favor of lynching him, since at this point we don't necessarily have any better targets. | ||
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In any case, thanks for reminding me about the sober reality of 3 mafia kills per night...sigh. In any case, if I were mafia, I would simply kill the most active posters, since without discussion, it becomes a lot harder to figure out who the mafia are. I hope our medics keep this in mind. | ||
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I disagree that vote histories aren't important until we suspect an elected official is mafia. I think they're the best thing the town has, other than clues. Also - since the mafia know who each other are, are coordinating, and would greatly benefit from having mafia members in positions where they can't be rolechecked (and get triple vote power to boot), it is highly likely at least one of the candidates is a mafia member. I actually think all candidates should go through some major scrutiny. In the worse case, it would be awful if both DrH and meeple were both mafia and were elected. | ||
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On January 20 2010 16:00 Zona wrote: To be honest I think mayor/sheriff should be people who are active, but also with the emptiest/most unambiguous profiles, so that if any clues are given linking that person to the mafia, hopefully they would be more obvious. Ugh, I'm still thinking along these lines. All the serious candidates so far have multiple pieces of information in their profiles and thus clues relating to them might be harder to figure out (while mine only has a quote). But I really wouldn't know what to do with a triple vote, and I don't consider the incarceration power that strong. I am a little worried that it's possible that meeple/DrH are both mafia, and would be happier if only one of them was elected to either position. I'm wary of t_co, too, though. | ||
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On January 21 2010 13:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm reluctant to take too risky a move on the first day. if t_co is a townie or a blue, he is clearly very aggressive and active and that is the kind of person I want on the towns side, even if he suspects me. I think we should play it safe until we get some more information from the second day. Okay, I think that makes sense. But if all three of you, meeple, and t_co is townie (as you seem to be assuming), then he's prime material for a night 1 kill, since that would throw suspicion on you two. | ||
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I don't think the later candidates would be the early-coordination mafia candidates. While it is possible the mafia would benefit from having no candidates and have the town members accuse each of the candidates as potential mafia, the benefit of having an uncheckable mafia with bonus powers on top is too great. In any case, town members will soon be accusing each other of being mafia, even if they aren't election candidates. I do think one of DrH, meeple, citi.zen, or t_co is likely a mafia candidate. It's also possible the mafia tried to get both spots, but that is more risky on their part. | ||
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Of course mafia members can vote "against" their team - but still, having a vote down allows more analysis to be done later. | ||
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On January 22 2010 08:16 meeple wrote: So... I went through the last 6 pages and roughly tallied the people who either mentioned they would support lynching t_co or explicitly stated it. I also pointed out a few people who haven't said much at all about it. t_co Mystlord Abenson Flamewheel Hobbes - presumably DrH 789 Bill Murray citi.zen Jugan t_co - hey man, he said it tredmaster Faronel I do not see where Faronel has supported lynching t_co or expressed sentiment along these lines, please point out a quote to me if I have missed it. | ||
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Right now I want to make sure we don't all easily agree with each other day 2, and so far for whatever reason DrH and meeple buy each others' arguments. | ||
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