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Holy shit. Another asterisk.
Mark McGwire has admitted taking steroids in 1998 when he broke Roger Maris' home run record.
"I wish I had never touched steroids," McGwire said in a statement. "It was foolish and it was a mistake. I truly apologize. Looking back, I wish I had never played during the steroid era.
"I'm sure people will wonder if I could have hit all those home runs had I never taken steroids. I had good years when I didn't take any and I had bad years when I didn't take any. I had good years when I took steroids and I had bad years when I took steroids. But no matter what, I shouldn't have done it and for that I'm truly sorry. Baseball is really different now -- it's been cleaned up. The Commissioner and the Players Association implemented testing and they cracked down, and I'm glad they did."
McGwire is entering his first season as the hitting coach of the St. Louis Cardinals, and his return to baseball prompted his admission. "It's time for me to talk about the past and to confirm what people have suspected," McGwire said. That echoes the phrase he used repeatedly during a Congressional inquiry into steroids in baseball in 2005, when he stonewalled questions about whether he had ever used steroids by saying, "I'm not here to talk about the past."
McGwire then went into seclusion for several years before being hired at the end of last season as the Cardinals' new hitting coach.
"On behalf of the entire Cardinals organization, I believe Mark McGwire today did the right thing by telling the truth and openly acknowledging his past mistakes," said Bill DeWitt, the Cardinals Chairman. "No one condones what Mark did more than 10 years ago, but we hired him as our hitting coach because we know there are many contributions that Mark can and will make to our team and to this game."
McGwire played 16 seasons in the majors with Oakland and St. Louis. He retired after the 2001 season having hit 583 home runs, which still ranks tied for eighth in major league history. His 10.61 at bats/home run is the best ever.
Tony La Russa, the Cardinals manager who hired McGwire as hitting coach and who managed McGwire with both the A's and the Cardinals, told MLB Network he did not feel duped by his former slugger, adding, "It's not excusable, it's a mistake but the perception of Mark when he played was he's a really solid individual and a great teamamte and I think that will be restored."
La Russa said he first found out when McGwire spoke to him Monday morning.
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On January 12 2010 06:32 SonuvBob wrote:
You're surprised?
its like the first guys I said , omg this guys is buff up lol
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Good for him though. It would be a much bigger problem if he did not admit.
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Don't believe his apology or "I'd have done it differently if I could go back" at all. He's getting the best of both worlds: his name is in the history books thanks to his gear, and he gets to play the apologetic saint. I seriously doubt if he could go back he'd not take gear at the cost of being just an average or only above average player.
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
On January 12 2010 06:32 SonuvBob wrote:
You're surprised?
Surprised that he admitted it? Yes.
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This steroid thing going on is a bunch of non sense seriously.
all these sportsmen that are admitting or have been found guilty of drug/steroid use should be banned from their sports right away. McGwire, Agassi, Maradona, the cyclist I don't remember his name. Seriously, our society is based on rules and rationalism, and cheating is not one of them. Take their records off the books, ban them from the sport and that's it. Unless a firm drastic example is set, this steroid thing is going to keep going on and on and on.
Moreover: also how unfair is it that people like Joe Shoeless Jackson and Pete Rose got banned for life from baseball for betting on games (which I'm not saying it may be right either), and these steroids guy just keep getting away with it, moreover McGwire is still a Hall of fame candiate ! Shame on him !, whereas Pete Rose or Shoeless jackson have never even been considered for veterans comitee.
Seriously this whole steroid thing has to come to an end, drastically in all sports. You took steroids ? or drugs ? well you're banned that's it. And this whole media thing not setting an example either contributes more on it.
This is why I admire clean people, like Federer, Ted Williams, Jordan, Ali, true sportsmen that even went beyond their sport to set an example for society.
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When he testified in front of Congress we all knew he was guilty. No one should be surprised. But still, I sit here in my cardinals hoody and cannot help but be disappointed.
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On January 12 2010 06:44 lightman wrote:
This steroid thing going on is a bunch of non sense seriously.
all these sportsmen that are admitting or have been found guilty of drug/steroid use should be banned from their sports right away. McGwire, Agassi, Maradona, the cyclist I don't remember his name. Seriously, our society is based on rules and rationalism, and cheating is not one of them. Take their records off the books, ban them from the sport and that's it. Unless a firm drastic example is set, this steroid thing is going to keep going on and on and on.
Moreover: also how unfair is it that people like Joe Shoeless Jackson and Pete Rose got banned for life from baseball for betting on games (which I'm not saying it may be right either), and these steroids guy just keep getting away with it, moreover McGwire is still a Hall of fame candiate ! Shame on him !, whereas Pete Rose or Shoeless jackson have never even been considered for veterans comitee.
Seriously this whole steroid thing has to come to an end, drastically in all sports. You took steroids ? or drugs ? well you're banned that's it. And this whole media thing not setting an example either contributes more on it.
This is why I admire clean people, like Federer, Ted Williams, Jordan, Ali, true sportsmen that even went beyond their sport to set an example for society.
No he's not. And why should players be banned for doing drugs, it's not like meth helped Agassi out.
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I hated his behavior during the inquiry from the senate. He was so obviously guilty and just kept refusing to directly answer their questions.
This is a step in the right direction though.
I'm sad he did it (not shocked) but I am glad he admitted it. Nothing can erase the damage he did but being honest and still trying to contribute to baseball are good steps.
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On January 12 2010 06:44 lightman wrote:
This steroid thing going on is a bunch of non sense seriously.
all these sportsmen that are admitting or have been found guilty of drug/steroid use should be banned from their sports right away. McGwire, Agassi, Maradona, the cyclist I don't remember his name. Seriously, our society is based on rules and rationalism, and cheating is not one of them. Take their records off the books, ban them from the sport and that's it. Unless a firm drastic example is set, this steroid thing is going to keep going on and on and on.
Moreover: also how unfair is it that people like Joe Shoeless Jackson and Pete Rose got banned for life from baseball for betting on games (which I'm not saying it may be right either), and these steroids guy just keep getting away with it, moreover McGwire is still a Hall of fame candiate ! Shame on him !, whereas Pete Rose or Shoeless jackson have never even been considered for veterans comitee.
Seriously this whole steroid thing has to come to an end, drastically in all sports. You took steroids ? or drugs ? well you're banned that's it. And this whole media thing not setting an example either contributes more on it.
This is why I admire clean people, like Federer, Ted Williams, Jordan, Ali, true sportsmen that even went beyond their sport to set an example for society.
I have seen jordan lose over 100k and then walk out , buy three whores and hop in a limo.
They are atheletes. All they should be allowed to do is entertain. Seriously what a bunch of retards we must be to let actors and atheletes be our role models.
Hardly any of them are smart enough to even understand the implication of the word role model.
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why would they? i'd do steroids if i could get away with it and make 12 million dollars a year
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On January 12 2010 06:44 lightman wrote:
This is why I admire clean people, like Federer, Ted Williams, Jordan, Ali, true sportsmen that even went beyond their sport to set an example for society.
The question is, would you have included Tiger Woods in that list a month ago?
The difference is being caught or not.
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United States22883 Posts
On January 12 2010 06:44 lightman wrote:
This steroid thing going on is a bunch of non sense seriously.
all these sportsmen that are admitting or have been found guilty of drug/steroid use should be banned from their sports right away. McGwire, Agassi, Maradona, the cyclist I don't remember his name. Seriously, our society is based on rules and rationalism, and cheating is not one of them. Take their records off the books, ban them from the sport and that's it. Unless a firm drastic example is set, this steroid thing is going to keep going on and on and on.
Moreover: also how unfair is it that people like Joe Shoeless Jackson and Pete Rose got banned for life from baseball for betting on games (which I'm not saying it may be right either), and these steroids guy just keep getting away with it, moreover McGwire is still a Hall of fame candiate ! Shame on him !, whereas Pete Rose or Shoeless jackson have never even been considered for veterans comitee.
Seriously this whole steroid thing has to come to an end, drastically in all sports. You took steroids ? or drugs ? well you're banned that's it. And this whole media thing not setting an example either contributes more on it.
This is why I admire clean people, like Federer, Ted Williams, Jordan, Ali, true sportsmen that even went beyond their sport to set an example for society.
Except that the reason Jordan went to baseball was to avoid heat on his gambling issues and how it could be tied to his playing career. Or what about someone like Hank Aaron? We know for a fact that steroids were heavily used in the Brewers locker room back then, and magically his HR per AB drastically went up when he turned 39 and 40. You don't know that any of those people are really clean. Meh, let them take steroids.
Hell, how can anyone care about HR records when the requirements for a HR are different in every single stadium? God, baseball stat people like Gammond piss me off so much.
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I'm glad he did admit. Pretty much everyone already knew he did the stuff, and this just helps him clear up his image / make him seem like a better person. Compare McGuire now to what we think of Barry Bonds. Personally, I see McGwire in better light than I do of Barry Bonds.
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I'm starting to wonder if we'll be getting fake "admissions" from people desperate for attention.
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maradona was a pothead and agassii had some kinda fucked up rebellion stage due to his father that caused him to use meth, again, another thing that had nothing to do with his performance. wtf do those have to do with someone who deliberately and knowingly tried to cheat??
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Hey hey, baseball officials are worried that they'll lose fans due to players cheating with steroids - so we'll have one of the major cheaters admit things as a sign that we've cleaned things up - and let him still stay involved in baseball.
WTF?
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