EPTwho really cares whether people take steroids anyway. as long as it is safe and controlled, take it all you want. it is technology after all
McGwire admits steroid use - Page 2
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oneofthem
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who really cares whether people take steroids anyway. as long as it is safe and controlled, take it all you want. it is technology after all | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On January 12 2010 07:30 oneofthem wrote: probably a result of him not being elected to the hall. figures that he should just come clean and maybe he stands a chance who really cares whether people take steroids anyway. as long as it is safe and controlled, take it all you want. it is technology after all The thing is that they are not safe. | ||
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oneofthem
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karelen
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MountainDewJunkie
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seppolevne
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On January 12 2010 07:04 Jibba wrote: Except that the reason Jordan went to baseball was to avoid heat on his gambling issues and how it could be tied to his playing career. Or what about someone like Hank Aaron? We know for a fact that steroids were heavily used in the Brewers locker room back then, and magically his HR per AB drastically went up when he turned 39 and 40. You don't know that any of those people are really clean. Meh, let them take steroids. Hell, how can anyone care about HR records when the requirements for a HR are different in every single stadium? God, baseball stat people like Gammond piss me off so much. Too much time reading about unfounded sports conspiracy theories. Simmons probably thinks you're a fool for actually taking his theories seriously. Go read espn's ombudsperson. | ||
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Kennigit
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Jibba
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On January 12 2010 10:30 igotmyown wrote: It's not from Simmons. Do you know when the first Congressional investigation into steroid use in professional sports was conducted? 1973, and it was found that drug use was rampant in all the major sports investigated. Professional athletes do what they can to get an advantage. Of course it'll never be proven, but sticking an * on '98-'01 and ignoring the past 30 years of abuse is silly. Just accept that for the past 40 years, there probably was no "pure" era, and move on. Nothing magically changed in 1998, except that they went overboard with it.Too much time reading about unfounded sports conspiracy theories. Simmons probably thinks you're a fool for actually taking his theories seriously. Go read espn's ombudsperson. | ||
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Saturnize
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
On January 12 2010 06:57 dcberkeley wrote: The question is, would you have included Tiger Woods in that list a month ago? The difference is being caught or not. i still admire tiger woods. He just needs to step his pimp game up. Hes the most mentally tough out of any athlete around nowadays though. Possibly ever. I dont think most people realize that we're watching the greatest golfer to have played the game EVER. People who think bw is hard because of the fact that even the top pros only win like 60% of games. Golfers might win 1 tournament a year if they are good. If you win 20 you get your PGA tour playing priveledges for life. Hes already 3rd all time in wins and hes only played like 13 years on tour. He has single years that are better than careers of pretty notable players. | ||
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Mastermind
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Sadist
United States7229 Posts
Baseball also tries to act like their records are timeless when that couldnt be further from the truth. Fact is the baseball parks are immensely different than they are now. You have the deadball/liveball eras. You have integration. People used spitballs, went in spikes up trying to hurt people, purposely threw at people. I mean seriously baseball has just had its head up its ass for a while and its been coming back to haunt the sport since the early 90's. People took amphetamines back in the day and no one thinks its a big deal. Golf is the only pure sport left. You call penalties on yourself and are COMPLETELY ostracized for cheating. Nothing is even close. | ||
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
On January 12 2010 06:44 lightman wrote: This steroid thing going on is a bunch of non sense seriously. all these sportsmen that are admitting or have been found guilty of drug/steroid use should be banned from their sports right away. McGwire, Agassi, Maradona, the cyclist I don't remember his name. Seriously, our society is based on rules and rationalism, and cheating is not one of them. Take their records off the books, ban them from the sport and that's it. Unless a firm drastic example is set, this steroid thing is going to keep going on and on and on. Moreover: also how unfair is it that people like Joe Shoeless Jackson and Pete Rose got banned for life from baseball for betting on games (which I'm not saying it may be right either), and these steroids guy just keep getting away with it, moreover McGwire is still a Hall of fame candiate ! Shame on him !, whereas Pete Rose or Shoeless jackson have never even been considered for veterans comitee. Seriously this whole steroid thing has to come to an end, drastically in all sports. You took steroids ? or drugs ? well you're banned that's it. And this whole media thing not setting an example either contributes more on it. This is why I admire clean people, like Federer, Ted Williams, Jordan, Ali, true sportsmen that even went beyond their sport to set an example for society. They should all be banned from their sport AND TSL3! | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On January 12 2010 11:08 Jibba wrote: It's not from Simmons. Do you know when the first Congressional investigation into steroid use in professional sports was conducted? 1973, and it was found that drug use was rampant in all the major sports investigated. Professional athletes do what they can to get an advantage. Of course it'll never be proven, but sticking an * on '98-'01 and ignoring the past 30 years of abuse is silly. Just accept that for the past 40 years, there probably was no "pure" era, and move on. Nothing magically changed in 1998, except that they went overboard with it. Funny, I didn't know Congress also investigated Jordan's retirement, in 1973. Give a source, please. | ||
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