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[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger Season 1 2013 - Page 9

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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
May 30 2013 23:17 GMT
#161
Puck with the 8-gateway surprise timing .
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 23:19:52
May 30 2013 23:17 GMT
#162
I feel like that shouldn't work because the gateways are all so late. too bad suppy skipped roach warren or burrow.

also too bad he didn't catch three free sentries moving across the map with zero support while 9 gateways were in production
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
May 30 2013 23:18 GMT
#163
On May 31 2013 08:15 BigBossX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:10 hitpoint wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:07 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:04 hitpoint wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:01 Crownlol wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:57 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:54 SniXSniPe wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:51 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:44 BigBossX wrote:
[quote]

Pretty sure demuslim is British... Have you taken a look at the premier league playoffs? Not a single american player, don't see what there is to be so proud of lol. At least EU actually had some EU players make it through.


Must be nice when there are significantly less Koreans, especially ones that are not as good.


Yeah awful Koreans like mvp , so bad that he just ya know, won the whole thing...


4 Koreans in the European Premier league vs 13 Koreans in the NA Premier league.

Yeah, so much more difficult, right? One good Korean makes the whole league more challenging than competition spread all around, right?


Nice excuses bro. Please explain why 2 non Korean players managed to make it through though, but not a single american. Must be nice living in your fantasy land of bull shit and denial.


So what exactly is your point? That players of the Americas haven't had strong tourney showings?


Well this whole back and forth seems to have started with that guy falling for some pretty standard Demuslim/US pride trolling, so I wouldn't take him too seriously.


LOL. gotta love it when some retard comes out with some bullshit, then turns around with lololol eye tr0ll u so baad newb..


So you maintain that you didn't fall for an obvious troll? You seem pretty angry.

Read the first post... You seem pretty retarded.


Yea man I did. That guy knows Demuslim isn't American lol. It's called a joke..
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Muggs
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
May 30 2013 23:19 GMT
#164
I feel for the zerg when I see toss do tech switches like that after they get a scout off. I dont agree with the race design of toss at all.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 23:25:31
May 30 2013 23:19 GMT
#165
On May 31 2013 08:14 BigBossX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:10 Crownlol wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:06 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:01 Crownlol wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:57 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:54 SniXSniPe wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:51 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:44 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:42 RiceAgainst wrote:
Hell yeah, USA is amazing!!! I missed most of the game(s) but as long as I like the results, I don't mind!


Pretty sure demuslim is British... Have you taken a look at the premier league playoffs? Not a single american player, don't see what there is to be so proud of lol. At least EU actually had some EU players make it through.


Must be nice when there are significantly less Koreans, especially ones that are not as good.


Yeah awful Koreans like mvp , so bad that he just ya know, won the whole thing...


4 Koreans in the European Premier league vs 13 Koreans in the NA Premier league.

Yeah, so much more difficult, right? One good Korean makes the whole league more challenging than competition spread all around, right?


Nice excuses bro. Please explain why 2 non Korean players managed to make it through though, but not a single american. Must be nice living in your fantasy land of bull shit and denial.


So what exactly is your point? That players of the Americas haven't had strong tourney showings?


My point is simple, Americans have gotten owned so badly in WCS AM yet some fans are talking like they've actually been performing, it was the same in yesterdays thread. They haven't is my point. WCS EU actually had an EU player in the finals, AM have already failed :-)


Americans failed in WCS AM because there was no region lock and it was dominated by Code S/Code A Koreans. End of story. The WCS AM Premier league is probably my least favorite SC2 tournament ever held- it was disgusting.


No region lock in EU , yet an EU player made it to finals. It could have been an all Korean semi final, but it wasn't.

Seriously wtf is with the excuses. And hell let's face it, if there was region lock, the level of play would be very very low overall, making both EU and AM not worth watching, at least until the very late stages of premier league.


Not sure why you're fighting so hard to bash the NA players. No one is making "excuses" as you are constantly whining about. People are stating that region lock allowed Koreans to flood into NA (X3 more than EU) and take advantage of the newer, less skilled player base here. EU is far stronger than America in regards to player skill - no one disputes this.

People are upset because they want the American scene to grow, see American players get some prize money, become more motivated, get more sponsorships etc. Think you're a bit too obsessed with this topic, might want to lay down for a while and chill man

And no, the viewership is not determined by the "level of play" as you arrogantly state. It's determined by personalities and storylines. Proof is in viewership numbers. EU is X3 more viewers than NA, and X3 fewer Koreans than NA. If this isn't obvious to you at this point, then there's no hope for you understanding it anytime soon.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 30 2013 23:20 GMT
#166
On May 31 2013 08:19 Muggs wrote:
I feel for the zerg when I see toss do tech switches like that after they get a scout off. I dont agree with the race design of toss at all.


Zerg is typically the race that has the greatest ability to tech switch due to a common production building (hatcheries/lair/hive). A taste of their own medicine if you will
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:20 GMT
#167
[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger S1
us (Z)Suppy vs us (P)puCK
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Suppy spawns in the bottom right
puCK spawns in the top left
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 23:25:19
May 30 2013 23:24 GMT
#168
I was wondering how Puck was floating like 700 minerals doing that but the names on the scoreboard were just wrong :D

edit: By which I mean they're not properly lined up with supply/money. Scoreboard itself is fine
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:24 GMT
#169
On May 31 2013 08:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger S1
us (Z)Suppy vs us (P)puCK
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Suppy spawns in the bottom right
puCK spawns in the top left

2:00
pool first for Suppy
Nexus first for puCK
forge for puCK

3:00
pylon block in the natural of Suppy
puCK lets the pylon finish
gateway for puCK
another pylon started in the natural of suppy
cannon for puCK

4:00
hatch for Suppy
double gas for puCK
3rd base for Suppy
cybernetics core for puCK

5:00
double gas for Suppy
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ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
May 30 2013 23:25 GMT
#170
Demu is clearly really damn good, especially considering his environment. Imagine sitting and playing TvT and just all match-ups in general on NA as a professional gamer who wants to compete against Koreans, you will have such a hard time like that. He learned a lot playing Byun one month ago, checked the replay after every game he lost and learned a lot. He's a great sportsman with a great attitude. Much unlike certain persons once very close to him but now far removed.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:28 GMT
#171
On May 31 2013 08:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger S1
us (Z)Suppy vs us (P)puCK
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Suppy spawns in the bottom right
puCK spawns in the top left

2:00
pool first for Suppy
Nexus first for puCK
forge for puCK

3:00
pylon block in the natural of Suppy
puCK lets the pylon finish
gateway for puCK
another pylon started in the natural of suppy
cannon for puCK

4:00
hatch for Suppy
double gas for puCK
3rd base for Suppy
cybernetics core for puCK

5:00
double gas for Suppy

6:00
2 more gas for puCK
robo for puCK

7:00 56 vs 52
+1 attack for puCK
ling speed for suppy
Roach warren for Suppy
2 more gates for puCK
warp prism for puCK
3 more gates for puCK
mothership core for puCK

8:00 86 vs 62
roaches starting to come out for Suppy
3rd base for puCK
Lair for Suppy
observer for puCK
Suppy makes a bunch of lings after his roaches
ling at the watchtower sees the warp prism

9:00 102 vs 73
4th base for Suppy
evo chamber for Suppy
warp prism sees the army of Suppy moving across the map
immortal started for puCK
lings starting to attack at the natural
roaches and lings kill the cyber core
3rd of puCK is canceled
photon overcharge on the natural nexus

10:00 104 vs 91
+1 range attack for Suppy
cyber core rebuilding
photon overcharge and sentries are able to pusht he roaches back
zealots warped into the natural and main of Suppy but lings clean them up
+1 plasma shields for puCK
another immortal for puCK
hydralisk den for Suppy
Roach speed for Suppy
3rd base restarted for puCK
3 more gates for puCK
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TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:29 GMT
#172
On May 31 2013 08:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger S1
us (Z)Suppy vs us (P)puCK
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Suppy spawns in the bottom right
puCK spawns in the top left

2:00
pool first for Suppy
Nexus first for puCK
forge for puCK

3:00
pylon block in the natural of Suppy
puCK lets the pylon finish
gateway for puCK
another pylon started in the natural of suppy
cannon for puCK

4:00
hatch for Suppy
double gas for puCK
3rd base for Suppy
cybernetics core for puCK

5:00
double gas for Suppy

6:00
2 more gas for puCK
robo for puCK

7:00 56 vs 52
+1 attack for puCK
ling speed for suppy
Roach warren for Suppy
2 more gates for puCK
warp prism for puCK
3 more gates for puCK
mothership core for puCK

8:00 86 vs 62
roaches starting to come out for Suppy
3rd base for puCK
Lair for Suppy
observer for puCK
Suppy makes a bunch of lings after his roaches
ling at the watchtower sees the warp prism

9:00 102 vs 73
4th base for Suppy
evo chamber for Suppy
warp prism sees the army of Suppy moving across the map
immortal started for puCK
lings starting to attack at the natural
roaches and lings kill the cyber core
3rd of puCK is canceled
photon overcharge on the natural nexus

10:00 104 vs 91
+1 range attack for Suppy
cyber core rebuilding
photon overcharge and sentries are able to pusht he roaches back
zealots warped into the natural and main of Suppy but lings clean them up
+1 plasma shields for puCK
another immortal for puCK
hydralisk den for Suppy
Roach speed for Suppy
3rd base restarted for puCK
3 more gates for puCK

11:00 111 vs 102
zealots kill the queen at the 3rd of Suppy
Hydra range for Suppy
another gate for puCK
Suppy making a bunch of hydras

12:00 139 vs 120
infestation pit for Suppy
puck has to pause cause of lag
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 30 2013 23:30 GMT
#173
suppy took 4 hatch at 4th base instead of macro hatch, because he had units out on the map.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:30 GMT
#174
On May 31 2013 08:15 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 07:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
omg they trolled us with the schedule. I'm not reordering the op

Sen got forfeit loss for not showing up on time

Michael McClelland ‏@ROOTheognis 35m

@LzGaMeR I think they are waiting until the end of tonights broadcast before giving the w.o

Theognis said he hasnt gotten a walkover yet. Are you sure it's official?
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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 23:34:48
May 30 2013 23:32 GMT
#175
On May 31 2013 07:57 BigBossX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 07:54 SniXSniPe wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:51 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:44 BigBossX wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:42 RiceAgainst wrote:
Hell yeah, USA is amazing!!! I missed most of the game(s) but as long as I like the results, I don't mind!


Pretty sure demuslim is British... Have you taken a look at the premier league playoffs? Not a single american player, don't see what there is to be so proud of lol. At least EU actually had some EU players make it through.


Must be nice when there are significantly less Koreans, especially ones that are not as good.


Yeah awful Koreans like mvp , so bad that he just ya know, won the whole thing...


4 Koreans in the European Premier league vs 13 Koreans in the NA Premier league.

Yeah, so much more difficult, right? One good Korean makes the whole league more challenging than competition spread all around, right?


Nice excuses bro. Please explain why 2 non Korean players managed to make it through though, but not a single american. Must be nice living in your fantasy land of bull shit and denial.


Damn, you are either dumb or trolling.

13 Koreans (10 of whom have been in Code S, 2 who have been in Code A), is a lot more competitive than a washed up GSL champion with hardly any results in the past year, Shuttle (who has never even been in the GSL), MVP (who was knocked out of the GSL--- yes even Code A, before switching to Europe), and ForGG (who was still in Code A when he left).

But if it makes you feel better imagining Europe would still have done as well with 13 Koreans at the calibre of the ones in NA, then keep imaging so.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:32 GMT
#176
On May 31 2013 08:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger S1
us (Z)Suppy vs us (P)puCK
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Suppy spawns in the bottom right
puCK spawns in the top left

2:00
pool first for Suppy
Nexus first for puCK
forge for puCK

3:00
pylon block in the natural of Suppy
puCK lets the pylon finish
gateway for puCK
another pylon started in the natural of suppy
cannon for puCK

4:00
hatch for Suppy
double gas for puCK
3rd base for Suppy
cybernetics core for puCK

5:00
double gas for Suppy

6:00
2 more gas for puCK
robo for puCK

7:00 56 vs 52
+1 attack for puCK
ling speed for suppy
Roach warren for Suppy
2 more gates for puCK
warp prism for puCK
3 more gates for puCK
mothership core for puCK

8:00 86 vs 62
roaches starting to come out for Suppy
3rd base for puCK
Lair for Suppy
observer for puCK
Suppy makes a bunch of lings after his roaches
ling at the watchtower sees the warp prism

9:00 102 vs 73
4th base for Suppy
evo chamber for Suppy
warp prism sees the army of Suppy moving across the map
immortal started for puCK
lings starting to attack at the natural
roaches and lings kill the cyber core
3rd of puCK is canceled
photon overcharge on the natural nexus

10:00 104 vs 91
+1 range attack for Suppy
cyber core rebuilding
photon overcharge and sentries are able to pusht he roaches back
zealots warped into the natural and main of Suppy but lings clean them up
+1 plasma shields for puCK
another immortal for puCK
hydralisk den for Suppy
Roach speed for Suppy
3rd base restarted for puCK
3 more gates for puCK

11:00 111 vs 102
zealots kill the queen at the 3rd of Suppy
Hydra range for Suppy
another gate for puCK
Suppy making a bunch of hydras

12:00 139 vs 120
infestation pit for Suppy
puck has to pause cause of lag

13:00 163 vs 140
2nd evo for Suppy
pylon going up near the 4th of Suppy
puCK sending his army across the map towards Suppy's 4th
armies engage outside the 4th of Suppy
forcefileds block out a lot of the hydras so suppy has to back off

14:00 142 vs 145
Suppy trying to hold his 4th base but puCK still forcefielding
zealot warp in in the natural of Suppy is killing the hatch
Suppy saves the natural hatch at 11 hp
puCK kills the 4th of Suppy
Robo bay for puCK
4th base restarted on the right side of the map for Suppy

15:00 119 vs 129
+2 range attack started for Suppy
Hive started for Suppy
Colossus production started for puCK
2nd robo for puCK
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2385 Posts
May 30 2013 23:35 GMT
#177
On May 31 2013 08:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:15 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
omg they trolled us with the schedule. I'm not reordering the op

Sen got forfeit loss for not showing up on time

Michael McClelland ‏@ROOTheognis 35m

@LzGaMeR I think they are waiting until the end of tonights broadcast before giving the w.o

Theognis said he hasnt gotten a walkover yet. Are you sure it's official?

It's up to theognis apparently
Progamer
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:35 GMT
#178
On May 31 2013 08:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] RO16 Day 2 Challenger S1
us (Z)Suppy vs us (P)puCK
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Suppy spawns in the bottom right
puCK spawns in the top left

2:00
pool first for Suppy
Nexus first for puCK
forge for puCK

3:00
pylon block in the natural of Suppy
puCK lets the pylon finish
gateway for puCK
another pylon started in the natural of suppy
cannon for puCK

4:00
hatch for Suppy
double gas for puCK
3rd base for Suppy
cybernetics core for puCK

5:00
double gas for Suppy

6:00
2 more gas for puCK
robo for puCK

7:00 56 vs 52
+1 attack for puCK
ling speed for suppy
Roach warren for Suppy
2 more gates for puCK
warp prism for puCK
3 more gates for puCK
mothership core for puCK

8:00 86 vs 62
roaches starting to come out for Suppy
3rd base for puCK
Lair for Suppy
observer for puCK
Suppy makes a bunch of lings after his roaches
ling at the watchtower sees the warp prism

9:00 102 vs 73
4th base for Suppy
evo chamber for Suppy
warp prism sees the army of Suppy moving across the map
immortal started for puCK
lings starting to attack at the natural
roaches and lings kill the cyber core
3rd of puCK is canceled
photon overcharge on the natural nexus

10:00 104 vs 91
+1 range attack for Suppy
cyber core rebuilding
photon overcharge and sentries are able to pusht he roaches back
zealots warped into the natural and main of Suppy but lings clean them up
+1 plasma shields for puCK
another immortal for puCK
hydralisk den for Suppy
Roach speed for Suppy
3rd base restarted for puCK
3 more gates for puCK

11:00 111 vs 102
zealots kill the queen at the 3rd of Suppy
Hydra range for Suppy
another gate for puCK
Suppy making a bunch of hydras

12:00 139 vs 120
infestation pit for Suppy
puck has to pause cause of lag

13:00 163 vs 140
2nd evo for Suppy
pylon going up near the 4th of Suppy
puCK sending his army across the map towards Suppy's 4th
armies engage outside the 4th of Suppy
forcefileds block out a lot of the hydras so suppy has to back off

14:00 142 vs 145
Suppy trying to hold his 4th base but puCK still forcefielding
zealot warp in in the natural of Suppy is killing the hatch
Suppy saves the natural hatch at 11 hp
puCK kills the 4th of Suppy
Robo bay for puCK
4th base restarted on the right side of the map for Suppy

15:00 119 vs 129
+2 range attack started for Suppy
Hive started for Suppy
Colossus production started for puCK
2nd robo for puCK

16:00 125 vs 145
puCK starting to move across the map to Suppy's new 4th
4th for puCK
Suppy has to cancel his 4th base
4th base restarted on the left for Suppy
Extended thermal lance research started for puCK

17:00 161 vs 156
templar archives for puCK
double colossus production for puCK
overlord drops for suppy
+1 carapace on the way for Suppy
vipers started for Suppy
2 more gates for puCK
blink research started for puCK
macro hatch for Suppy
zealot runby to the 4th of Suppy

18:00 190 vs 180
puCK forces a cancel on the 4th of Suppy
Suppy restarts his 4th base
hydra speed for Suppy

19:00 200 vs 182
puCK adding in archons to his composition
Suppy engages the army of puCK
Colossi are abducted but Suppy's army was lagging behind so all the colossi survive
+3 range attack started for Suppy
puCK pushing towards the natural of Suppy

20:00 200 vs 200
forcefields block out most of the hydras of Suppy
4 colossi in puCK's army now
all the vipers fall
Suppy dropping 60 supply
Suppy ggs!
puCK wins 2-0 and advances to the Premier division!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2013 23:35 GMT
#179
Poll: Recommend Suppy vs puCK game 2?

Yes (5)
 
83%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

No (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Suppy vs puCK game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Suppy vs puCK game 3?

If you have time (3)
 
75%

Yes (1)
 
25%

No (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Suppy vs puCK game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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United States1938 Posts
May 30 2013 23:36 GMT
#180
On May 31 2013 08:35 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:15 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
omg they trolled us with the schedule. I'm not reordering the op

Sen got forfeit loss for not showing up on time

Michael McClelland ‏@ROOTheognis 35m

@LzGaMeR I think they are waiting until the end of tonights broadcast before giving the w.o

Theognis said he hasnt gotten a walkover yet. Are you sure it's official?

It's up to theognis apparently


Hahaha. Leaving it to the player to decide. That's always been such a bullshit call.
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