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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:51 redFF wrote: No I still like and would be down with a policy lynch but I know realistically it probably won't happen. Then why are you thanking tyrran? He's the guy you still want to lynch, isn't he? Why give up 1 hour into the 48 hour cycle? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No, it's not a problem. I disagree with the policy lynch in general but I really don't see how VE is contradicting himself at all. Supporting a policy lynch does not mean you can't be critical of RedFF posting a lot of one liners and talking about it/defending it so vehemently. He isn't accusing of redFF for being scum for supporting a PL anyway, or even for "pushing" it. He never said those words. It's an invented case. I'm voting for red. VE said he was voting for red as a policy lynch. He then criticizes red, not for his one liners, but by saying: Putting votes on inactive townies/policy lynches generates almost no real pressure on a player over whether or not they are scum but only creates arguments over whether or not a policy lynch is justified. That is a direct criticism of red's policy lynch push on tyrran. He isn't accusing of redFF for being scum for supporting a PL anyway, or even for "pushing" it. He never said those words. It's an invented case. I never said that he accused redFF of being scum for supporting a PL, I'm only saying that he's criticizing redFF of doing something that he himself did as well (Putting votes on a policy lynch). That point is factual. At the same time, I understand the nuanced subtle difference between the two given VE's immediate switch from policy lynch to scum-read. That's just good pressure play. Either way, I want to clarify what actually happened so as to not misrepresent the situation. On February 21 2012 08:40 redFF wrote: Nothing I've done is scummy and this is not going to get off the ground so enjoy your lonely wagon ve and drh. lol, this is scummy as fuck. ##vote: redFF | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:05 chaoser wrote: Also, your unvote of tyrran was pretty bad redFF and seemed extremely defensive. His post wasn't a good enough post to un-pressure vote. I would never get off him from my vote because his post was NOT good. Yeah tyrran's post is utterly worthless. I'm pretty sure redFF is just trying to duck the spotlight. If your lynching based on policy, I don't see why you wouldn't still want to lynch him now? Policy should still apply, and it's not like Tyrran has been captain mchelpful since showing up in the thread. I guess you're showing your colors ##Vote: redFF come out and play | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Why are you lumping up DocH's posts with mine? I didn't criticize red for his vote on Tyrran at all. Come on chaoser... Oh lol, my bad. I went back to check and indeed you did not say that. My fault. sorry lol | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:08 Blazinghand wrote: ##Vote: redFF | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
Red's unvote of Tyrran gives me that 'passing the buck' sort of vibe. Similar to "LOL, SEE GUYS!? HE POSTED IT WAS JUST TO PRESSURE VOTE HIM! LOLJIGISUP." Come on, bro. To add to the discussion; i'm definitely not a follower of the Policy Lynch based on Meta. I think it's bullshit - not in the sense that it doesn't work, but in the sense that one player can't change their play style from game to game. I know my first game (Election) was drastically different from my second (Newbie?) because I wanted to play it differently. That being said, all of the shit Red is being accused of by VE is all based on shit that has happened this game. Going to take a shower, then read Red's filter through. Also, while we are on the discussion of Policy, I hate liars, unless there is a clear and logical reason to do so (blue prolonging his anonymity, ect.) and anyone lying should be 100% held accountable for the actions they decided to run with. Does anyone in anyway disagree with this, and if so, why? Sup chaoser. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
chaoser - so by your correction and apology, should I assume that you're no longer agreeing with red's assessment that I'm being a hypocrite? kitaman27 - what are your thoughts on chaoser? Jackal, BC, syllo, WBG, you guys care to weigh in on this? I mean, it's early but I'd have expected to hear what an idiot I am at least twice between those 4 players. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:43 VisceraEyes wrote: kitaman27 - what are your thoughts on chaoser? He's linsane. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I want to lynch redFF as it stands for pushing what I consider pro-scum agendas. Then again a few other people have already gotten on with that. Not surprisingly as this game actually has a pretty solid player-pool. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
@risk.nuke Who do you want to smite and why? What are these pro-scum agendas that redFF is pushing? Why are you not voting for him when you want to lynch him? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Everyone else sucks marginally less ATM. Mostly chaoser is doing the least sucking. Blazinghand learn to play I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl. Till then I suggest you all brush up on Ver's guide since the last page has made my eyes bleed. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You're better than this. He never ever said your PL position was bad, but that you are spammy. Please read posts before you start OMGUSing. Considering you have time to spam you should have time to read. I beg to differ on that first statement, IMO redFF is god awful at this game | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:56 prplhz wrote: I'm going to reply to risk.nuke's post. @risk.nuke 1Who do you want to smite and why? 2What are these pro-scum agendas that redFF is pushing? 2Why are you not voting for him when you want to lynch him? 1 Anyone posting 1 liners of un-game related content filling up the thread and giving me more to read. 2 Policy-lynches. 3 I want to have some serious discussion flowing and several lynch-candidates. That will be exceedingly difficult if everyone just stacks redFF now. I decided not to vote after seeing he already had 5+ or so votes. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:59 wherebugsgo wrote: VE stfu you suck Everyone else sucks marginally less ATM. Mostly chaoser is doing the least sucking. Blazinghand learn to play I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl. Till then I suggest you all brush up on Ver's guide since the last page has made my eyes bleed. Ho boy, this is good play here. GOOD play. Let me count the ways. 1) Throwing out random insults. While I can appreciate the occasional well-deserved jibe, just saying someone "sucks" is...not productive. 2) Buddying up to chaoser. Apparently I suck - but I don't know why and Bugs' post does nothing to explain it. But chaoser is the only one NOT sucking - let's explore that. chaoser was the first one to jump on-board redFF's PL of Tyrran, and besides red himself has been the first one to jump off it as well. Furthermore, chaoser has spent a fair amount of time defending redFF against my accusations by agreeing with him that I am being 'hypocritical'....except, as it turns out this was based on faulty information that stems from APPARENTLY misreading the thread (thinking I said something DocH actually said). So as it turns out, chaoser is doing MORE sucking than several others in-thread already. 3) "I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl." - WBG I guess this means he wasn't programming before, but is now? So where has he been during all this time? Why not stop by and tell me what a dick I am BEFORE I called him out for not being in-thread yet? Why not come in and defend redFF if my case was so bad last page? Your guess is obviously as good as mine, but I suspect his has something to do with sharing an alignment with a certain someone the last page has been discussing. 4) "...since the last page has made my eyes bleed." - WBG So....I guess he thinks redFF is town or something? Or he just thinks my argument is shit? Or he thinks the last page is some kind of stigmata? I have no idea. He's just tossing doubt around as if he's some kind of authority. Guess what guys - THIS IS HIS FIRST POST. HE HASN'T EARNED THE RIGHT TO CALL ANYONE BAD YET IN THIS GAME BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE SHIT HIMSELF. 5) (and most importantly) ......NO U | ||
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