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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
January 21 2012 08:16 GMT
#1741
dignitas fighting
FADC
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
January 21 2012 09:03 GMT
#1742
For those who might be interested Jatt wrote some of his thoughts about todays matches on reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/opt8u/iem_kiev_group_stage_analysis_and_semi_final/
Veni, vidi, vici!
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
January 21 2012 09:16 GMT
#1743
On January 21 2012 18:03 FR4CT4L wrote:
For those who might be interested Jatt wrote some of his thoughts about todays matches on reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/opt8u/iem_kiev_group_stage_analysis_and_semi_final/


Cheers for this - nice and extensive analysis from Jatt, e.g.

"Some things I want to keep an eye on in the semi-finals is how completely desolate top lane was in the group stage. People weren't ganking top, people weren't dying top. Essentially the only purpose of the top laner was to show up in dragon fights. Why was nobody ganking top? I'm not sure. Could it be the new jungle offers so much reward for fast clearing (see Shyvanna) that ganking top is just not viable? I really want to see if top lane continues to see such extremely limited action during the semi-finals.

Games are also ending really, really fast. This is another trend that i'm trying to figure out. I think it's a combination of people being substantially better than they used to be, and the new masteries.

People who gain an advantage now are much better at pushing that advantage. We aren't seeing the poor tower dives or the forced barons, we are just seeing crisp play that results in quick decisive victories. The masteries could also be playing a small part in this. With the reworks to masteries people are gaining power more quickly, therefore a small gold advantage now means more in terms of strength than it used to pre-mastery rework."


Remarkably clear-headed breakdown of each lane for TSM vs Dignitas, too.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
January 21 2012 09:22 GMT
#1744
TSM fighting! I won't be able to watch them live today...
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
January 21 2012 09:31 GMT
#1745
We should be able to reach 150k cumulated pretty easily today, hopefully Maybe 200k !
Stormy
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 10:05:33
January 21 2012 10:05 GMT
#1746
Stats time! Now that the groupstage is over I was interested in how good some of the top bans and picks really are.

Top 20 picks/bans so far:

Karthus 12 picks or bans (most banned champion)
Rammus 12
Cassiopeia 10
Graves 10 (most picked champion with Taric)
Morgana 9
Irelia 8
Lee Sin 7
Skarner 7
Vayne 7
Sona 7
Taric 7
Riven 6
Kassadin 6
Nunu 6
Kennen 6
Maokai 6
Sivir 6
Ryze 5
Shaco 5
Soraka 5


Most successfull champions by position (only if picked/banned five or more times):

Jungle: Rammus (4 Wins, 0 Losses) - Maokai (3 Wins, 1 Loss)
AD Carry: Sivir (4 Wins, 2 Losses)
AP Carry: Ryze - Kassadin (both 2 Wins, 0 Losses)
Support: Sona (5 Wins, 1 Loss) - Nunu (3 Wins, 1 Loss), Soraka (3 Wins, 0 Losses)
Solo Top: Irelia (4 Wins, 2 Losses)


Overrated champions (?):

Cassiopeia - banned in 8, picked in 2 games, 0 wins
Vayne - 1 win, 4 losses
Taric - picked 7 times, only won 1 game
Riven - 1 win, 3 losses
Shaco - banned in 3, picked in 2 games, 0 wins
@ESL_Shawn
juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
January 21 2012 10:08 GMT
#1747
Shaco very overrated. Can't believe the taric though, guess sustain is greater than stun
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 21 2012 10:14 GMT
#1748
After watching all the matches from youtube, Moscow 5 feel like the most kiddo team ever (that troll interview with their solo top seriously...) but damn their play is impressive, especially bot lane where they really play agressiv.
They are really fast to focus someone, kill him, and Nunu...
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 10:21:21
January 21 2012 10:18 GMT
#1749
Not surprised at all by Taric, but I think Cassiopeia is too small of a sample size - 0-2 in picks with 8 bans is definitely a threatening champion. Maybe after Riot's done with Kayle, they can do Taric next zz.

People will keep picking him, because he's ~a SuPpOrT~, but he and Sona are the only 'supports' that can't take a solo, and Taric is definitely not Sona.

e: Nunu support proves that it's not just about having sustain, Janna is fine as well if you don't do something stupid like Janna/Vayne. Taric's kit is just so bad without E / after 20 minutes.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
January 21 2012 10:33 GMT
#1750
When do the games start today?
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
January 21 2012 10:44 GMT
#1751
in 3h16min
too long
End my suffering
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 21 2012 10:48 GMT
#1752
This is boiling down to a TSM M5 finals.

These guys are so long overdue for their showdown.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
January 21 2012 11:24 GMT
#1753
Re: MVP of groupstage

Here are the KDA ratios of the teams that made it through:

AP Carry:
ocelote 20,5
Reginald 10,0
AlexIch 9,75
Scarra 3,4

AD Carry:
Genja 18,5
Chaox 13,0
Imaqtpie 10,75
CandyPanda 4,1

Solo Top:
The Rain Man 10,3
Dar1en 9,7
Kev1n 4,3
Voyboy 3,9

Jungle:
Diamondez 17,0
TheOddOne 9,5
SleazyWeazy 6,8
Dominate 6,5

Support:
Nyph 13,3
GoSu Pepper 13,0
Xpecial 7,8
L0CUST 4,25
@ESL_Shawn
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 11:56:38
January 21 2012 11:55 GMT
#1754
Can I ask why the stream is showing aAa vs m5?

Sorry I didn't notice it hasn't been played, does this actually affect any outcomes for finals?
stu >)
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
January 21 2012 11:59 GMT
#1755
It's a re-run of yesterday.
@ESL_Shawn
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 12:49:22
January 21 2012 12:45 GMT
#1756
This will stat in 1u15 minutes right? Or will there we more delays?

EDIT btw why is it still showing up as TBD vs TBD on the semis? TSM vs Dignitas and SK vs M5 are the matches.
here i am
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 12:51:55
January 21 2012 12:49 GMT
#1757
12 weeks comfirmed to be "soon" on esltv_event (aka the one which has had LoL all tourney) by Bitter. So guess the games will start after that.

Edit: which is...now. ~_~
#freeshauni
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21665 Posts
January 21 2012 13:46 GMT
#1758
Hearing ocalot on stream now talking about his 20,5 K/D ratio when its listen several posts above makes me wonder if he reads TL :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 13:52:20
January 21 2012 13:48 GMT
#1759
Ocelote coaching Cass is really interesting. It's not as useful if you watch it just to learn the champion, but it's interesting to hear his thoughts about the game in general, certain champs and how IEM Kiev is going in general. Entertaining for sure.

Also: Bitter being the awesome bauss he is.
currently rooting for myself.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 21 2012 13:53 GMT
#1760
On January 21 2012 22:48 Shiv. wrote:
Ocelote coaching Cass is really interesting. It's not as useful if you watch it just to learn the champion, but it's interesting to hear his thoughts about the game in general, certain champs and how IEM Kiev is going in general. Entertaining for sure.

Also: Bitter being the awesome bauss he is.


Also they probably did this with very little preparation time. In the studio with MrBitter with a few days of prep things should turn out even better
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