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hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 16:01:34
February 17 2011 15:57 GMT
#121
I don't hate on accent, but the point is as a commentator Kelly's voice just isn't there...nor is her game knowledge. A combination of both really is a blow to the quality of commentary.

That said, I'm willing to give it time. First off, the announcement isn't even out yet. Second, everybody have room to improve, even Mr. Sean Plott can probably cut his excessive drooling on air.
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 16:15:20
February 17 2011 16:02 GMT
#122
On February 18 2011 00:40 PukinDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 00:36 enzym wrote:
On February 18 2011 00:25 PukinDog wrote:
Okay kids, look:

Whether you like this girl or not, a few facts:

Whenever you work for a professional organization, where there would be an official announcement, YOU DO NOT jump the gun with your own announcement. It is considered bad form, and a sign of poor discipline. Right now, when many people are deciding whether or not to purchase the premium package, is NOT THE TIME to make an announcement that could be considered controversial, or impact someone's purchase decision. It is likely, that GOM is now forced to make an announcement before they had hoped; AFTER more signups had been banked.

Another fact, whether you like the voice of the girl in question or not, her streams do not display the kind of game-knowledge and insight that we are used to from Tastosis. That is a fact. There are aspects to the game that I learned ONLY from listening to those casters. She adds nothing to a viewer's understanding of the game overall, or the strategies employed during a particular match.

I feel for the girl, because it appears the whole situation is turning out to be a huge cluster fuck, but GOM is a business, and Starcraft 2 deserves the opportunity to grow worldwide. Poor decision making in business, is just as bad as getting supply blocked in the game.

Good luck to her, but were I her at this point, I would gracefully exit from the controversy before being asked to leave the position. It would serve her well in the future to resign now, rather than risk an embarrassing firing over this.

So are you in favour of GOMtv purposefully delaying informing their customers in an effort to withhold potentially detrimental facts to and about the quality of their service, in practice deceiving people into paying for something they will not get? If GOM is so concernced with how their new casters are impacting sales then maybe they should have announced them earlier. Also, it's not like the season ticket will suddenly stop being available when the season starts. People will remain to be able to purchase it at any time they want. Having that information come out now rather than during the first matches shouldn't have any effect on the amount of people buying a ticket at all.


No dude, not at all. It was a poor decision to hire this girl, if they actually did. No, I dont think they should purposely withhold information either. All I am saying, is that if you DO get hired by an organization, you keep your trap shut until the official announcement, or risk losing your job before you get to ever do it. That is all I was saying.

Fair enough.

On February 18 2011 00:46 GOM.Sam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 00:36 enzym wrote:
On February 18 2011 00:25 PukinDog wrote:
Okay kids, look:

Whether you like this girl or not, a few facts:

Whenever you work for a professional organization, where there would be an official announcement, YOU DO NOT jump the gun with your own announcement. It is considered bad form, and a sign of poor discipline. Right now, when many people are deciding whether or not to purchase the premium package, is NOT THE TIME to make an announcement that could be considered controversial, or impact someone's purchase decision. It is likely, that GOM is now forced to make an announcement before they had hoped; AFTER more signups had been banked.

Another fact, whether you like the voice of the girl in question or not, her streams do not display the kind of game-knowledge and insight that we are used to from Tastosis. That is a fact. There are aspects to the game that I learned ONLY from listening to those casters. She adds nothing to a viewer's understanding of the game overall, or the strategies employed during a particular match.

I feel for the girl, because it appears the whole situation is turning out to be a huge cluster fuck, but GOM is a business, and Starcraft 2 deserves the opportunity to grow worldwide. Poor decision making in business, is just as bad as getting supply blocked in the game.

Good luck to her, but were I her at this point, I would gracefully exit from the controversy before being asked to leave the position. It would serve her well in the future to resign now, rather than risk an embarrassing firing over this.

So are you in favour of GOMtv purposefully delaying informing their customers in an effort to withhold potentially detrimental facts to and about the quality of their service, in practice deceiving people into paying for something they will not get? If GOM is so concernced with how their new casters are impacting sales then maybe they should have announced them earlier. Also, it's not like the season ticket will suddenly stop being available when the season starts. People will remain to be able to purchase it at any time they want. Having that information come out now rather than during the first matches shouldn't have any effect on the amount of people buying a ticket at all.

We haven't made any official announcement yet because we do not have all the details. It's as simple as that.

I was about to include that in my previous post, but didn't want to complicate the sentence even more. In that case you could still have announced potential candidates. In any case it's too late now. The start of the new season is imminent and the information, accurate or not, has been spread.

Just to be clear. I was not implying that you have done any of those things (like withholding information with intent to deceive). It was just a reply to a potential interpretation of PukingDog's post. Of course I don't expect you to do something like this at all - all records suggest quite the opposite. But for the sake of discussion and for the sake of scepticism I posted what I did.


On February 18 2011 00:51 GOM.Sam wrote:
I do realize I have GOM in my ID. And yes I do work for GOM.
But I am posting this out of my own will. Because I thought from the community's
POV, if I were an eSports fan waiting to watch GSL Mar., I would want to know
when GOM will make an announcement about Code A casters.

And that will be sometime tomorrow. Not implying anything seriously.
This is just a piece of information. Nothing more nothing less.

With that being said I will stop posting as it seems like it's creating more negativity than good.

I am not sure that this is the right conclusion to draw and a lot of people, myself included, are very relieved and glad that you are willing to show some presence here. The most outspoken few are not representing all of us.
But by all means, if you are still unhappy with the results then it indeed does not make much sense for you to continue posting. It's sad, but not much can be done about it.
Thank you for your effort and time anyways.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 17 2011 16:11 GMT
#123
On February 17 2011 20:19 DarthXX wrote:
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On February 17 2011 20:14 SenorChang wrote:
On February 17 2011 19:44 Bobble wrote:
On February 17 2011 19:41 Deyster wrote:
I hope whoever it is that's casting, is that he or she has an American accent. Cause I sometimes have a hard time understand other accents specially non-native ones.


I hope not. The American accent grates on my ears.

Do you not what TV shows or Movies or anything? Bit surprised by that statement lol


I hate American accents too just something about it that is extremely irritating, just because like every movie and TV has American actors doesn't mean I have to like it ...


That's surprising. American English sounds very neutral to me, and my first language was Spanish. I find it to be a very simple version of English to understand. Australian English on the other hand sounds a bit British.
The spice must flow
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 17 2011 16:19 GMT
#124
Just wait, guys. Just wait.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 17 2011 16:20 GMT
#125
On February 18 2011 01:19 Wolf wrote:
Just wait, guys. Just wait.


GL in Korea!
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 17 2011 16:22 GMT
#126
Gom hasn't failed me yet, I have faith in their choice of casters. I am sure it'll be alright
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CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
February 17 2011 16:22 GMT
#127
Hey guys. I think accents from countries I am not from sound very unnatural but accents from my country sound very natural. It's easy for me to understand accents from my country while accents from other countries can be difficult to understand. /s
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 17 2011 16:22 GMT
#128
Hating an american accent isn't really a valid point, since an american or british english accent is generally universally understood the best by english-speakers.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 16:25:37
February 17 2011 16:24 GMT
#129
On February 18 2011 01:20 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 01:19 Wolf wrote:
Just wait, guys. Just wait.


GL in Korea!


This (seemingly)

On February 17 2011 20:32 iko wrote:
The rumored co-caster is definetly a huge blunder in my opinion and would ruin Code-A for me. No offence, but I personally believe they are a very poor grade caster in the limelight only because of their gimmick.

If Gom really wants to floor me with an amazing caster, they need to get a hold of Diggity.



He is in my honest opinion one of the best casters I've ever heard of, and it's because of him I'm this big into Starcraft today.


He's got a wife and a job. What need does he have to go to Korea to cast there. I think people need to stop suggesting casters that are already set in what they have lol.
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PukinDog
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
February 17 2011 16:25 GMT
#130
On February 18 2011 01:19 Wolf wrote:
Just wait, guys. Just wait.


Waiting, hoping, praying for another GREAT GSL!
You must macro like every SCV is bringing not minerals, but Pie.
GOM.Sam
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)210 Posts
February 17 2011 16:28 GMT
#131
Sine I posted on the other thread anyway...

I am not telling you guys to stop posting or making statements.
I honestly don't have any more information than you guys do.
I am curious myself as to what the announcement tomorrow will contain.

Just telling you guys to tune in (visit gomtv.net) tomorrow when GOM makes an announcement.
That's all I know. That there will be an announcement tomorrow.

Oops. I posted.
Roll Tide.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 17 2011 16:29 GMT
#132
On February 18 2011 01:19 Wolf wrote:
Just wait, guys. Just wait.


Oh snap! It would be awesome to see Wolf and Torch cast together side by side. I am crossing my fingers hardcore .
Don't mind me
OmegaSyrus
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada46 Posts
February 17 2011 16:29 GMT
#133
Here's hoping Torch is one of the casters.
Praise the system.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 17 2011 16:34 GMT
#134
On February 18 2011 01:22 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Hating an american accent isn't really a valid point, since an american or british english accent is generally universally understood the best by english-speakers.


yep. esp american english is totally neutral and should be fine with absolutely evrybody. british and esp aussie english can be a bit "special" at times but i personally like it if the person has a good style/voice.

can make thingsmore difficult tho. human traffic for example is a hard hard movie to understand most of the time. not that ive ever heared a caster speaking like that ~



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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
February 17 2011 16:35 GMT
#135
If they can do the Code A casts I would prefer Tastosis. If it's a thing that it's not humanly possible to do then I can understand them getting the new suggested casters. I'm just scared who they are going to get but I guess we will find out.
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
February 17 2011 16:37 GMT
#136
On February 18 2011 01:20 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 01:19 Wolf wrote:
Just wait, guys. Just wait.


GL in Korea!


Man I really hope you're right... <3 Wolf
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
February 17 2011 16:39 GMT
#137
Glad to see them issuing a statement here on TL. Kudos Gom!
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
February 17 2011 16:40 GMT
#138
On February 18 2011 01:28 GOM.Sam wrote:
Sine I posted on the other thread anyway...

Show nested quote +
I am not telling you guys to stop posting or making statements.
I honestly don't have any more information than you guys do.
I am curious myself as to what the announcement tomorrow will contain.

Just telling you guys to tune in (visit gomtv.net) tomorrow when GOM makes an announcement.
That's all I know. That there will be an announcement tomorrow.

Oops. I posted.


Seriously, this anouncing of anouncements gotta stop... -_-
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
February 17 2011 16:44 GMT
#139
On February 17 2011 21:43 minimat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 21:36 iko wrote:
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


Do not project your views upon others - I'm another oceanic person and I have trouble understanding her poor casting and I spend all day socializing with Australians.

You also have to consider the fact that straining to understand a caster is one of the biggest drawbacks ever - they are there to supplement the game and if they are detracting from the quality of the experience by hampering a majority's ability to understand what's going on, then they are NOT a good caster.

You are asking a majority audience to make-do with a substandard caster because of your own personal beef with Americans. Are you trying to murder interest in Starcraft as a video game? If the representation of a professional caster for one of the biggest events in the world is someone who infact hampers the experience, then it reflects very poorly upon GSL and Starcraft as a whole.


Ok first off socialising with Australians isn't going to help you understand someone from Singapoore.

Secondly, I'm not pushing and view on any one I'm simply saying that she is a great caster and that an ASIAN tournament has picked an ASIAN caster and people should not be so narrow minded as to say THIS IS RIGHT AND NOTHING ELSE IS.

Thirdly I love Tasteless and to all the people saying Kellys game knowledge is lacking... You obviously mute the stream every second time Tasteless talks because its usually something wrong, however entertaining it is.

Lastly... You are from NZL.. Do you views even count?


They're getting casters for the Englsh stream, if someone speaks English that is inherently hard to understand for the masses then it is counter intuitive.
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Arcticc
Profile Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
February 17 2011 16:58 GMT
#140
All I have gotten out of this thread is that Australians hate Americans. (i.e. first 2 pages)

And that they will be announcing Kelly tommorow, which puts me into a dilemma because the only real voice I have is deciding whether to purchase the season pass or not. And I really really like gom and cannot stand Kelly.
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