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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2013 18:55 GMT
#1201
I'm really having a hard time believing that a town player would come up with a mafia team without analyzing the night actions, especially in this setup.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2013 19:02 GMT
#1202
layabout, your setup discussion is in regards to the order that roles should claim the next day, not at night, correct?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 19:10 GMT
#1203
On June 12 2013 03:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 03:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
also prp can be scum faking rb so doesnt have to be vivax


I have been roleblocked though.
I find it too hard to imagine that scum doublestacked JJD.

Kita mentioned that he would not have written a case against ace knowing he was going to fakeclaim cop cause he'd have sided with him.

Well he still did side with him after writing his case, so that argument doesn't even make sense, but now he looks like he was pressuring ace while lynching Oats.


yea that post made zero sense i remember your rb claim. Does anyone have a history with sentinel that can explain if he dumbtells as scum?
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 11 2013 19:27 GMT
#1204
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 19:32 GMT
#1205
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2013 19:37 GMT
#1206
On June 12 2013 04:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo


Who is more scummy between prpl and Vivax?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 20:03 GMT
#1207
On June 12 2013 04:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 04:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo


Who is more scummy between prpl and Vivax?


Unless someone counterclaims the roleblocker, Vivax.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 11 2013 20:11 GMT
#1208
On June 12 2013 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 04:37 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo


Who is more scummy between prpl and Vivax?


Unless someone counterclaims the roleblocker, Vivax.

Counterclaiming (or fakeclaiming as scum if your team didn't draw the role) is suicide in this setup even more so than a regular one, Sentinel. That will never happen and it's honestly ridiculous that you brought it up.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#1209
On June 12 2013 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:37 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo


Who is more scummy between prpl and Vivax?


Unless someone counterclaims the roleblocker, Vivax.

Counterclaiming (or fakeclaiming as scum if your team didn't draw the role) is suicide in this setup even more so than a regular one, Sentinel. That will never happen and it's honestly ridiculous that you brought it up.


Does it matter? The point is that prplhz was roleblocker and he isn't lying.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 11 2013 21:27 GMT
#1210
I was gonna go thru Sent's filter and get a case together but im not even sure its worth the effort. I can still write up a bit if anyone shows interest. He just oozes scumminess.

Hard defending ace. And then flip flopping to vote for Oats later. Just one of the things that makes him pretty scummy.

Sent can you write up a case on vayne I see you have him as one of your scum reads.

So might do some filter diving on
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 21:51 GMT
#1211
Vayne says that "anyone pushing on him reminds him of goodkarma from Les Mis", as if only scum would have the audacity to question his lack of substance and weird townreads.

On June 08 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game.

What?
No.
GK at least put in the effort.


You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example


He then excuses himself from putting in more effort saying it looks scummy. Note that while WoS (and I) asked him to put in more effort, he still posts mostly in one liners. But, you may argue, I post in one liners as well. And many have asked me to put in more effort. Does that make me scum? No, and hence the substance is not enough to convict our friend Vayne here.

On June 10 2013 08:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
So all that is in JJD's filter is sentinel stuff so not very useful. Is it WIFOM or is sentinel actually scum? Wish we had a cop check on him


He uses JJD's push on me to implicate myself as trying to save my ass as being scum. However it was dismissed as WIFOM so we may never know if he intended to be the catalyst for my lynch. Then he lays the issue to rest, so it doesn't seem to be an issue of discussion (just yet).

On June 11 2013 02:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote:ace

busy right now but willadd thoughts later


Still waiting on those thoughts on Ace.

On June 11 2013 09:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
it wasnt really follow the cop oats was a fairly good lynch, he's impossible to read anyway so 1 less headache to deal with


Even if Oats was a headache that's no reason to dispose of a perfectly good towny. Furthermore we should be lynching the people who we think are scum, not the ones who we can't read at all. Scum would be more than happy to lynch unreadable townies, town should be enthusiastic about lynching scum who play like scum.

What this all means is that the substance that Vayne does post is scummy. He's voting for people that he can't figure out in the name of clarity, but people he can't figure out might just be weird townies. I've played with Oats twice now, I think, once as scum and once as town. He is hard as fuck to read from posting alone. If he posted scummy stuff it's all well and good, but Vayne doesn't even lynch him for the scummy stuff.

On June 08 2013 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote:Oatsmaster


I don't even see any justification in his filter for this vote.

That's a brief summary of recent events that have furthered my red read on Vayne.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 11 2013 22:05 GMT
#1212
Read up on Vaynes filter atm. This really stuck out at me. I did this when i was terrible calling my self confirmed town. But it is a pretty scummy thing to do. No one is confirmed town first off. You become a town read by consistently doing town like things with your actions. Vayne just got called town from a scum. Its all WIFOM. There is not confirmed town or towniness at all to it. Scum can use things like that to set up team mates to look good or set up townies to look bad.

Vayne hard defending Rayn first off looks pretty scummy. When asked why he responds with
On June 06 2013 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 02:45 layabout wrote:
On June 06 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't necessarily think WoS is scum as its too early to tell but if that's my only other option besides rayn, so be it. He is one of my only townreads

How did he come to be a townread? Especially if he "doesn't really have a meta"

It better not be because of this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote: WoS


btw i think vayne is town. + Show Spoiler +
He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative.

I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive.

I also think prpl is town.

Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town.



nope, gut read

Giving no reasons or explanation about why he thought Rayn was town. Making it easier to defend someone and totally back out of it later. He doesnt even have to explain why he defended Rayn because it was a gut read.

The fact that Vayne tried to make Rayn calling him town into a big deal just goes to show that he is not confident on his actions alone to prove him town.
On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game.



Vayne didnt really contribute much just voted Oats like everyone else. Then he claimed doctor and claimed he protected WoS.
When someone was talking about roleblocks and how we only one KP was used last night. Then he said this.

On June 12 2013 03:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
also prp can be scum faking rb so doesnt have to be vivax


This is true. If prplhz is scum and the scum team rolled rb then they could waste a KP not shoot. And then claim that because someone was roleblocked they must be the scum. This would solve two things it would make the roleblocker look alot better and set them up for town cred. It would also make someone look hella scummy in this case Vivax.

However what Vayne didn't mention was that the exact same thing could be done with the doctor. Remember at this point in the game (assuming ace is scum) scum need to look really townie to stay alive cause there KP is gonna be lower and the roles are still all out and our advantage increases the longer the game goes on. Vayne could just claim he protected WoS. And that is the reason why we down 1 KP.

I want you guys to keep this in mind. And not taking roles at faceclaim. The scum can get roles just like we can. Im having a hard time getting a good read on vayne cause the doesnt have alot of content in his filter. All his posts are pretty short and he doesn't do a good enough job explaining his reads and thought process. I dont see any point in not trying to contribute more unless your scum just trying to skirt by with out having to defend hard reads. Im leaning scum on Vayne as of now.
I still want to kill Sent first however
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 11 2013 22:11 GMT
#1213
Hm Sent pushing Vayne actually is something i like. If they are both scum. Sent who is likely the next lynch. Has no town credibility would prolly not get very far into lynching Vayne. So similar to how Rayn gave a town read on Vayne and vayne tried to use it to look good. It would just be in inverse this time. Sent tries to push Vayne. Sent dies flips red. And then Vayne could be look at scum trying to push me i must be town.

I know im getting ahead of my self with assuming flips. But doesnt anyone have thoughts on this?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 22:19 GMT
#1214
The only way your both of us scum theory has credibility is if ace flips town. Ace wouldn't do that a risky move if the last 2 scum left were me and sent ROFL.

Think you are getting a little ahead of yourself
I come in for the scraps
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 11 2013 22:59 GMT
#1215
On June 12 2013 07:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
The only way your both of us scum theory has credibility is if ace flips town. Ace wouldn't do that a risky move if the last 2 scum left were me and sent ROFL.

Think you are getting a little ahead of yourself

Ace could of claimed to protect Sent which has been noted. But he didnt do a good enough drawing attention away from him.

So then what is your scum reads given what you have said?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 11 2013 23:01 GMT
#1216
Night 3


Final Votecount:

Ace (9): prplhz, kitaman27, [UoN]Sentinel, jaybrundage, WaveofShadow, Sutters695, Vivax, VayneAuthority, mkfuba07
mkfuba07 (1): layabout

Not Voting (1): Ace

Ace has been lynched!




Thusly, Ace, the Gambling Goon has been lynched!


It is now Night 3. You have 24 hours to send in night actions; roles go out in the next minutes.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
June 11 2013 23:02 GMT
#1217
How unexpected :o
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 23:04 GMT
#1218
As stated a long time ago, time to look at people that are in good standing with the town. No way Ace pulls off that stunt without being very sure of his partners.
I come in for the scraps
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2013 23:05 GMT
#1219
I'm thinking its the other way around. He pulls that stunt BECAUSE his partners are in trouble.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 23:08 GMT
#1220
On June 12 2013 07:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 07:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
The only way your both of us scum theory has credibility is if ace flips town. Ace wouldn't do that a risky move if the last 2 scum left were me and sent ROFL.

Think you are getting a little ahead of yourself

Ace could of claimed to protect Sent which has been noted. But he didnt do a good enough drawing attention away from him.

So then what is your scum reads given what you have said?


I would say to look into vivax/prphlz/mkfuba/kita/possibly even WoS with scrutiny. Don't have any specifics yet. I am a bit wary of how fast prphlz claimed his roleblock on vivax so I wouldn't be surprised if they planned something sneaky. If town gets cop i'd say look between prp/vivax for lynch tomorrow

Some very townie people are scum, you're barking up the wrong tree with me/sent and its because of what they have led you to believe. This is why they are killing off random players and leaving up me and sentinel, so that we are mislynched. It allows the last 2 scum to hide within the vets somewhere.
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