• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:01
CET 06:01
KST 14:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1132 users

Girl faces death for burning "something" - Page 6

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 11 Next All
Rebornlife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada224 Posts
August 20 2012 22:02 GMT
#101
On August 21 2012 06:56 LimeNade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 05:02 Enzymatic wrote:
What more are you going to expect from a third world country?

"Innocent until proven guilty" ???

Oh please..


Meh they are lower then a 3rd world country. More like scum off my shoe for this to even be contemplated. Death for basically burning paper? Really? Sorry but kiss my a** the people who wrote up this law should be the ones who should be burned.


Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:55 Rebornlife wrote:
Two things are the root of all evil.

1. Money
2. Religion


Nah don't blame evil on either of those. Evil exists because of human nature not cause of money or religion. Both of which were created by humans. Humans are the cause of evil just as they are of good.


I agree with that statement, perhaps "root" should be replaced with "driving force"
sewergoat
Profile Joined May 2011
United States97 Posts
August 20 2012 22:04 GMT
#102
one more reason why religion is retarded
Silence is better than bullshit
Bahamut1337
Profile Joined July 2012
Ghana205 Posts
August 20 2012 22:05 GMT
#103
Welcome to Islamic Apartheid, the girl was born a Christian and thus is not even human. Suprised? Im not, name the Islamic nations which threat their miniorties as humans, not even turkey does let alone a backwards place as Pakistan.
Gben592
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom281 Posts
August 20 2012 22:07 GMT
#104
So this is what its like living in 17th century Britain O.O
"The more skilled player is the one who wins, and I don't think there's better balance than what we have now." INnoVation
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
August 20 2012 22:07 GMT
#105
This screams Doli Incapax to me, if in fact there even was a fire, which was lit by her, which was a holy text of some sort...

Holes everywhere! But I'm not exactly familiar with the state of their legal system.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 20 2012 22:08 GMT
#106
This is really sad...death penalty, really?

It seems odd that CNN managed to come across this apparently random and small case though.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 20 2012 22:08 GMT
#107
JudicatorHammurabi

I agree with you, but replace burning the Quran in Pakistan with the American flag in the US and many of my countrymen would consider it to be a grave crime, nevermind being up in arms about it (I love the flag, in fact I have a 3x5' but I'm not gonna go nuts if someone has issues with my country). The fact of the matter is the value of something is all subjective according to some majority group in a given demographic.


They wouldn't kill you over it though.

It is their right to be offended. Everyone may have whatever opinion they want, and express it. They may act on their feelings, as long as they do violate your person.

For example, if this girl burned a Quran, the muslims could consider that act offensive to themselves, use that information to judge that she is probably not a girl that shares their values, and thus not like her.

What they can't do is attack or murder her, nor demand that she does not make use of her right to free speech, be it literal or symbolic.

So no, the situation is not the same. Americans would not kill you over it. Even the most fanatical of patriots would probably just really dislike you and get really verbally agressive. Still, all part of the freedom of speech that all parties are entitled to.

But of course, the main problem is this person, a young girl at that, is being executed. What the fuck. Her property or not, the girl isn't going to be executed because she destroyed another's property and Pakistan has an ungodly harsh penal system, but because she destroyed a Quran. A legal system should not work on the premises of an ascribed value beyond the monetary one when it comes to property.


No, exactly, but it is part of the problem that these people generally believe they have the right to dictate what others can and cannot do.

It is perfectly fine to disagree with a person's actions, but the belief that you have the right to suspend theirs is quite another.

Even when I was rather religious, if someone wrecked my bible, I'd just expect them to buy me a new one. The only reason why a bible or any book would be more special than another is if it is a gift from someone imo. Still, it's not at all worth killing someone over. lol


We can certainly agree on that premise, it really isn't worth it to kill someone over a book.

Now to convince the people that murdered people by the dozens because someone drew a cartoon.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 20 2012 22:12 GMT
#108
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
August 20 2012 22:14 GMT
#109
On August 21 2012 05:02 Enzymatic wrote:
What more are you going to expect from a third world country?

"Innocent until proven guilty" ???

Oh please..

A third world country that has nukes.
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
August 20 2012 22:16 GMT
#110
If I had the money I'd hire some rambo guy to break her free and bring her to the West and who shoots the people responsible for this shit during the rescue operation. Thats at least how it happens in the movies, sad that it does not work in RL, things would be so much easier :S
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 20 2012 22:17 GMT
#111
despite the fact that she "should" be freed, the chances of her actually not being freed is unfortunately high
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
BBS
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany204 Posts
August 20 2012 22:18 GMT
#112
On August 21 2012 05:00 oGoZenob wrote:
let's hope the 17th century catches them up soon


I could not agree more with you ..
Morpheus.EU
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands26 Posts
August 20 2012 22:19 GMT
#113
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
August 20 2012 22:19 GMT
#114
Lol what a fucking joke. There is very little I wouldn't give to send a video of myself burning a Quaran to these people and watch them erupt with anger. But are any of you really surprised? These are the same people that bury women in the sand and chuck rocks at their head until they die, in public. AND the ones throwing the rocks are often the family members!

I know I'll probably get banned or warned for saying those things but before I get called a racist 100 times I'd like to remind people that being racist and saying what actually is happening are two different things - for example; compared to their percent of the population, black people are far more likely to commit a crime than a white person. That is based off the FBI's crime statistics. Of course the Canadian government is too fucking afraid to include race as a variable in crime statistics -_-.

In conclusion to the Quaran thing -
Surprising: No
Horrific and wrong: YES

User was temp banned for this post.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 22:45:43
August 20 2012 22:29 GMT
#115
On August 21 2012 07:08 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
JudicatorHammurabi

I agree with you, but replace burning the Quran in Pakistan with the American flag in the US and many of my countrymen would consider it to be a grave crime, nevermind being up in arms about it (I love the flag, in fact I have a 3x5' but I'm not gonna go nuts if someone has issues with my country). The fact of the matter is the value of something is all subjective according to some majority group in a given demographic.


They wouldn't kill you over it though.

It is their right to be offended. Everyone may have whatever opinion they want, and express it. They may act on their feelings, as long as they do violate your person.

For example, if this girl burned a Quran, the muslims could consider that act offensive to themselves, use that information to judge that she is probably not a girl that shares their values, and thus not like her.

What they can't do is attack or murder her, nor demand that she does not make use of her right to free speech, be it literal or symbolic.

So no, the situation is not the same. Americans would not kill you over it. Even the most fanatical of patriots would probably just really dislike you and get really verbally agressive. Still, all part of the freedom of speech that all parties are entitled to.

Show nested quote +
But of course, the main problem is this person, a young girl at that, is being executed. What the fuck. Her property or not, the girl isn't going to be executed because she destroyed another's property and Pakistan has an ungodly harsh penal system, but because she destroyed a Quran. A legal system should not work on the premises of an ascribed value beyond the monetary one when it comes to property.


No, exactly, but it is part of the problem that these people generally believe they have the right to dictate what others can and cannot do.

It is perfectly fine to disagree with a person's actions, but the belief that you have the right to suspend theirs is quite another.

Show nested quote +
Even when I was rather religious, if someone wrecked my bible, I'd just expect them to buy me a new one. The only reason why a bible or any book would be more special than another is if it is a gift from someone imo. Still, it's not at all worth killing someone over. lol


We can certainly agree on that premise, it really isn't worth it to kill someone over a book.

Now to convince the people that murdered people by the dozens because someone drew a cartoon.

No, I didn't say anyone here would be killing haha if you think that's what I meant. They'd just be really angry. Even if they were murderous, law enforcement would break them up, rather than fearing the mob and basically giving into it like in the Pakistani case. The other issue is that I doubt the angry mob in Pakistan is some isolated group. There probably would have been the same reaction in many parts of the country, which doesn't really give the police much of a choice but to give in since the people don't listen to "stfu and sit down" when it comes to these religious matters.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#116
On August 21 2012 07:19 knOxStarcraft wrote:
Lol what a fucking joke. There is very little I wouldn't give to send a video of myself burning a Quaran to these people and watch them erupt with anger. But are any of you really surprised? These are the same people that bury women in the sand and chuck rocks at their head until they die, in public. AND the ones throwing the rocks are often the family members!

I know I'll probably get banned or warned for saying those things but before I get called a racist 100 times I'd like to remind people that being racist and saying what actually is happening are two different things - for example; compared to their percent of the population, black people are far more likely to commit a crime than a white person. That is based off the FBI's crime statistics. Of course the Canadian government is too fucking afraid to include race as a variable in crime statistics -_-.

In conclusion to the Quaran thing -
Surprising: No
Horrific and wrong: YES


There is no link between the event in Pakistan and the crime rate in US. Please avoid this kind of racism out of the subject.
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
August 20 2012 22:34 GMT
#117
On August 21 2012 07:30 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 07:19 knOxStarcraft wrote:
Lol what a fucking joke. There is very little I wouldn't give to send a video of myself burning a Quaran to these people and watch them erupt with anger. But are any of you really surprised? These are the same people that bury women in the sand and chuck rocks at their head until they die, in public. AND the ones throwing the rocks are often the family members!

I know I'll probably get banned or warned for saying those things but before I get called a racist 100 times I'd like to remind people that being racist and saying what actually is happening are two different things - for example; compared to their percent of the population, black people are far more likely to commit a crime than a white person. That is based off the FBI's crime statistics. Of course the Canadian government is too fucking afraid to include race as a variable in crime statistics -_-.

In conclusion to the Quaran thing -
Surprising: No
Horrific and wrong: YES


There is no link between the event in Pakistan and the crime rate in US. Please avoid this kind of racism out of the subject.


Ya reading through the thread more I'm surprised more people weren't shouting racism - so I'm sorry for bring it up, but nothing I said was racist, like I thought I made clear in the post.
Ohyra
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden59 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 22:38:15
August 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#118
On August 21 2012 05:13 Roachu wrote:
This is beyond fucked up.


I second that to its furthest extent, fellow countryman.
clik
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
August 20 2012 22:45 GMT
#119
Still making governing decisions and laws based off of the beliefs of magical men in the sky in 2012. Some things never change with us humans.
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
August 20 2012 22:53 GMT
#120
Ugh. This is inexcusable. Theocracy is such a bad idea.

Somehow the threatening to burn down the christian district doesn't even bother me, it's just an example of religion making stupid conflicts. But jesus, they even want to execute one of their own children...

Side note, I dislike how the cultural relativists, automatic anti west crowd and holier-than-thou nonconformists come in and try to tell everyone how their opinion is irrelevant. Yeah let's just ignore everything that doesn't directly effect us, real healthy way of looking at the world.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 6h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft510
RuFF_SC2 197
SortOf 11
Ketroc 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41610
Yoon 182
ZergMaN 153
ggaemo 109
GoRush 68
sorry 61
Noble 42
Bale 11
Icarus 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm101
League of Legends
JimRising 575
C9.Mang0454
Trikslyr63
Counter-Strike
summit1g8128
minikerr45
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox386
Other Games
Mew2King71
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1150
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 111
• practicex 40
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 21
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22306
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1d 6h
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.