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CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
August 20 2012 23:01 GMT
#121
ROFL!
They dont know anything lol.
They disagree on everything!
There is no evidence!
This law is fucked up!
These people can go to hell!
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
August 20 2012 23:02 GMT
#122
On August 21 2012 05:01 AngryMag wrote:
I don't think the girl will be harmed, but the incident clearly shows how backwards oriented many people in Pakistan are. If I would be Christian I would definately leave the town for some time, lynchmobs might be looking for retaliation.

lol, you would think so but alot of the time, if not most of the time, they do get harmed.

There are tons of similar cases on this site:http://britishpakistanichristian.blogspot.co.uk

Some of the stories make me sick to be honest....well almost.
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AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
August 20 2012 23:05 GMT
#123
On August 21 2012 08:02 MrShankly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 05:01 AngryMag wrote:
I don't think the girl will be harmed, but the incident clearly shows how backwards oriented many people in Pakistan are. If I would be Christian I would definately leave the town for some time, lynchmobs might be looking for retaliation.

lol, you would think so but alot of the time, if not most of the time, they do get harmed.

There are tons of similar cases on this site:http://britishpakistanichristian.blogspot.co.uk

Some of the stories make me sick to be honest....well almost.


I meant that she won't get harmed by the state, the mob is another matter, and yeah i agree if she just goes back to her house she and her whole family will be killed without a doubt
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
August 20 2012 23:32 GMT
#124
Pakistan is fucked up. The fact that they actually have this 'blasphemy' law is so absurd. It's like these guys are living in the early 1000's. I really hope their country and many of the surrounding ones get worked out, because it'd be a nice place to visit aesthetically if the god-damned law makers and people in power weren't so extreme. That and I want to see people live in peace....
Hark!
StateofReverie
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States633 Posts
August 20 2012 23:34 GMT
#125
Can you even get arrested for blasphemy in the USA?
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
August 20 2012 23:40 GMT
#126
On August 21 2012 08:34 StateofReverie wrote:
Can you even get arrested for blasphemy in the USA?

No.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
August 20 2012 23:43 GMT
#127
On August 21 2012 05:15 reki- wrote:
I know people won't be put to death in the west for burning a bible, edited my post.

These kind of newsposts just annoy the crap out of me because it's always turning out reactions like "let's hope the 17th century catches them up soon" and people feel morally superb while commenting on these subjects while it's very likely that it's overexaggerated because it's such a juicy topic.

No.

You don't need to be fully informed about this specific newspost to see the connection between a thousand previous newsposts where atrocities are committed in the name of religion.

You should be pleased, not annoyed, the vast majority of people here are responding in a fashion that warms my heart and restores my faith in humanity.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 21 2012 00:00 GMT
#128
On August 21 2012 08:34 StateofReverie wrote:
Can you even get arrested for blasphemy in the USA?

lol, like u would get arrested for blasphemy in any country that isnt completly fucking nuts
its just so unbelivably fucked up, just imagine what wouldve happened if the crusaders had nuclear weapons
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 21 2012 00:15 GMT
#129
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
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On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion#Irreligion_in_the_world
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
August 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#130
Fortunately, there is very little evidence for the case against her so unless Pakistan has a history of murdering people on the thinnest sliver of evidence, I don't think she'll die.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
August 21 2012 02:31 GMT
#131
Sounds like Muslim reddit
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 03:04:59
August 21 2012 03:04 GMT
#132
On August 21 2012 08:34 StateofReverie wrote:
Can you even get arrested for blasphemy in the USA?


Only if you say someone is better than Michael Jordan.

How would anyone even go about reforming or getting rid of crazy blasphemy laws? It would be pretty blasphemous wanting to get rid of blasphemy.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
August 21 2012 09:20 GMT
#133
On August 21 2012 06:42 AngryMag wrote:
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On August 21 2012 06:40 leveller wrote:
Yeah lets take more freak cases of people being treated poorly, make it seem even worse and more freaky and influence people to hate muslims more. seems to be working great.


In Pakistan this is not a freak case, if you are accused of blasphemy or trying to change the laws regarding blasphemy, you are very likely to get killed


What I meant was that this is intended for westerners to circle jerk about how bad islam is and how great our western world is. I mean, religion IS bad and western libreralism is great, but I'm sure there are hundreds and thousands of people being condemned to death over even smaller things than this all over the world at any given day, yet this story has hundreds of TL members raving about it.
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
August 21 2012 09:38 GMT
#134
Pakistan should check out Malaysia, then Singapore shortly after and then proceed to check their calendars.
Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
August 21 2012 09:58 GMT
#135
I don't care to start a religious argument, but after reading the first few pages of responses to this thread I feel like adding some fact would be helpful for people to understand why this is taking place. I'll keep it as short as possible without adding nuances or rhetoric for simplicity.

Pakistan is a country that is governed by a Muslim Theocracy. That means that Muslim holy law, or Shariah law is the law that governs the country. It is not ruled by democracy, or "logical law," as some have said, but rather by what the authors of the Quran and Hadiths said centuries ago. A synopsis of what laws this includes is found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
but for those who don't want to read, some highlights include women being required to be veiled in public, the death penalty for blasphemy, and marriage ordinations. It is important to this case because as a Christian, this young lady and her family have already committed blasphemy by certain standards and come Islamic sects would have them executed for that alone. There is prejudice, in many cases, against Christians and other non-Muslims in these sorts of theocracies and simply seeing something with Arabic writing on it burned is enough to incite calls for death. It doesn't, and won't make sense to many of us in the Western world, but that is the logical path that their thinking entails...at least in part.
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TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
August 21 2012 10:03 GMT
#136
On August 21 2012 18:20 leveller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:42 AngryMag wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:40 leveller wrote:
Yeah lets take more freak cases of people being treated poorly, make it seem even worse and more freaky and influence people to hate muslims more. seems to be working great.


In Pakistan this is not a freak case, if you are accused of blasphemy or trying to change the laws regarding blasphemy, you are very likely to get killed


What I meant was that this is intended for westerners to circle jerk about how bad islam is and how great our western world is. I mean, religion IS bad and western libreralism is great, but I'm sure there are hundreds and thousands of people being condemned to death over even smaller things than this all over the world at any given day, yet this story has hundreds of TL members raving about it.


So, you're saying news like this should just be discarded, because its intended as propaganda against islam, even though it happens with a regualar basis in certain places?

And it doesnt happen all over the world? Give me examples of this happening in Japan, Denmark, australia, germany, USA, UK, etc.. Its only muslim nations.

Things like this happens weekly in places like Pakistan and egypt. Islam has a pretty bad rep, and I doubt it will change any time soon. Sure, some are indeed "freak" cases, but lets face it. Islam is simply the exact opposite of the western world.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 21 2012 10:04 GMT
#137
Welcome back to the 13-1500s.

Muslims need to get their asses in 2012 and act like civilized people.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
August 21 2012 10:07 GMT
#138
On August 21 2012 19:04 Technique wrote:
Welcome back to the 13-1500s.

Muslims need to get their asses in 2012 and act like civilized people.

There are Muslims in France, US, Africa, etc., and not all of them can be lumped up into an "uncivilized tribe" that you make them up to be. Stop being a bigot and generalizing.
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
August 21 2012 10:12 GMT
#139
IF they stone this girl we should set up global action and print 1 million qurans and burn them. This madness has gone too far.
I had a bad dream. Don't be afraid, bad dreams are only dreams. What a time you chose to be born in...
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
August 21 2012 10:13 GMT
#140
On August 21 2012 19:03 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 18:20 leveller wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:42 AngryMag wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:40 leveller wrote:
Yeah lets take more freak cases of people being treated poorly, make it seem even worse and more freaky and influence people to hate muslims more. seems to be working great.


In Pakistan this is not a freak case, if you are accused of blasphemy or trying to change the laws regarding blasphemy, you are very likely to get killed


What I meant was that this is intended for westerners to circle jerk about how bad islam is and how great our western world is. I mean, religion IS bad and western libreralism is great, but I'm sure there are hundreds and thousands of people being condemned to death over even smaller things than this all over the world at any given day, yet this story has hundreds of TL members raving about it.


So, you're saying news like this should just be discarded, because its intended as propaganda against islam, even though it happens with a regualar basis in certain places?

And it doesnt happen all over the world? Give me examples of this happening in Japan, Denmark, australia, germany, USA, UK, etc.. Its only muslim nations.

Things like this happens weekly in places like Pakistan and egypt. Islam has a pretty bad rep, and I doubt it will change any time soon. Sure, some are indeed "freak" cases, but lets face it. Islam is simply the exact opposite of the western world.



On August 21 2012 19:04 Technique wrote:
Welcome back to the 13-1500s.

Muslims need to get their asses in 2012 and act like civilized people.


From "Pakistani's brutal laws" to "All muslims are retards"? Seriously??

If blind generalisation is what you call "civilisation", call me "uncivilised".

"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
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